Forewarning that a lot of the things I'm going to go over in this post have been looked at before, so you'll notice some familiar points and posts if you've been here since D1 start. Raskol/Titus/Gerry may not have seen this stuff yet though. We have the context of flips now so I think it's worth revisiting for everyone though.
In post 211, Impoetic wrote: In post 207, rb wrote:Impoetic wrote:It's not like I malignantly quickhammered. I joke-voted. I'm telling you there isn't scum motivation in joke-voting, and it's only bad for town because the culprit is town in the first place; if I were mafia, I'd be giving town the rope with which to hang me for... what? A tiny chance to get one townie lynched early in d1... which would require two townies messing up and doing the same thing you're saying i'm scum for?
How do u know im townie though?
you're most likely town because statistically most people are town in the game, and the argument against me is assuming you're town so there's no point in considering the other scenario
This whole conversation is based on an early rb wagon iirc. Point is, and Kohai is the one who brought it up last time I think, Impoetic's post here was contrived/WIFOMy. Then she comes back at rb saying there's no point in considering he's scum. Town do not think like this unless they are extremely confirmation biased already and I seriously doubt that was the case here.
In post 228, Impoetic wrote: In post 215, Kohai wrote: In post 211, Impoetic wrote:you're most likely town because statistically most people are town in the game, and the argument against me is assuming you're town so there's no point in considering the other scenario
Are you seriously town reading someone because statistically they are more likely to be town? Wtf?
Are you seriously saying you're misunderstanding every one of my posts this badly on purpose?
REad what i said. Read it. I said very clearly that STATISTICALLY, EVERYONE IS MOST LIKELY TOWN, and FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE HYPOTHETICAL, I was referring to a world in which RB is town, because that's the relevant scenario there, when RB asked me why I was assuming they were town when I was defending myself for joke-voting them.
The response to Kohai was angry and I don't think that assumptions of someone's alignment have anything to do with whether a joke-vote on that person in RVS is AI. The only way a vote on someone in RVS could be AI is if the voter was scum and knew the alignment of the person they were voting already, so I don't think town would factor the alignment of their vote target into their defense of what was supposedly a joke vote in rvs.
In post 232, Impoetic wrote: In post 229, Transcend wrote:VOTE: Impoetic
TTTT is town but avatar is disturbing
rb is also still scummy
And last but not least- drealmerz is a mislynch
Aite cya
Haha no i'm pretty sure you can't read me in forum mafia
why are you jumping on a mislynch when the person being voted is trying to contribute and the person doing the voting is half-assedly misconstruing every single thing I say and talking like I'm confscum when he's barely read me and I haven't had time to be conf-anything
you're better than this
AtE and discrediting rather than focusing on contributing to scumhunting, which is what she claims to be doing in her AtE
In post 407, Impoetic wrote:this vote has had resistance from exactly one person, and the justification from everyone has been
I'm defensive
and
I jokevoted
the jokevoting justification is absolutely stupid and i've gone over that extensively
the "defensive" reasoning is about me going over it extensively, which is pro-town and generates content. Argument is good, isn't it? I can't go into any more detail because people can just chalk up anything i say in defense of myself to wifom
it's infuriating
i cannot believe i'm getting wagoned. i guess that's what i get for spazzing out there
I don't know why people TR drone or SR
actually i'm getting very few of the reads here. I tr Roxy but that may be bias because they're the only person i can understand at all this game
maybe rabbit but his last few posts sent him back to null
predit:
oh good someone else who isn't jumping on that stupid bw
shannon -- I typed walls of text as town because I had things to say. I'm not going to hold back what i want to say as town because I risk SRs, because I usually figure as town that justice will prevail in the end, and if people push on me, that gives more reads. I'm not used to being MLed
Not sure who Roxy is here - Impoetic, who is Roxy? Also, is this scum caught for the wrong reasons? Also noting that the only rational thing she has to say to anyone is shannon and the rest of her posting is AtE. Maybe shannon does know that it's Impoetic after all?
In post 412, Impoetic wrote:like
ok
maybe i would ever do it as scum, for wifom
but that'd be because I also do it as town. If I get voted and I don't think it's reasonable, I will respond with why it's unreasonable, and expect the voter to engage me so i can try to figure out whether they're pushing a mislynch as scum or genuinely just mistaken town
predit: the only player i know is transcend and i'm pretty bad at reading him as far as I know. I'll get back to you on that. If I knew a LOT of them, it'd be cause for concern on your part, wouldn't it? Like, if all the people who could meta me were wagoning me...
predit2: the "I'd do this as scum" was fine but then the "town points for the first person to give reasons for scumreading me" slightly leaned scum. Also i feel kind of pocketed right now but that's just me being paranoid. I don't think it's implausible that you're town but I mean, if you are, I don't think you'd lie, and it means you think people should potentially scumread you at this point; if you're scum, that means something else.
Her defense of her actions is WIFOM that basically says "Maybe I would do this as scum for WIFOM, but since it would be WIFOM that means I
could
do it as town so clearly all of this is NAI!"
In post 1324, Impoetic wrote:rb's iso was lackluster and he could basically flip either way
?
i just got back and i'm trying to catch up, sorry. Titus, i thought you said you thought all town were lynching town, and i see that your SRs are not voting it, so why does wagon analysis prove he's town like that to you?
I mean, ok, lack of counterwagon. That might be a good point, actually.
But why can't TTTT be scum with him? It looks like TTTT is pushing the second most likely wagon right now.
In post 1427, Impoetic wrote:well hey that was
obvious and cool
transcend i did figure out you were town while i was rereading = ( and i think kyouko's town too from what i've seen, but i'm far from finished catching up rip
rescinding the read on sesq
In post 1432, Impoetic wrote:Okay wait I don't think I ever absorbed who D7 was. Sorry for the dumb question, but who is that? Or do you mean like, when it hits 7 people or something? :s
predit: sorry oops, that was unclear. Transcend was
obvious town and an obvious kill (in reference to the flip)
and
cool as in we lynched mafia
. I only checked transcend's actual role after people brought it up so i didn't see he was a JOAT immediately.
Impoetic didn't participate in the lynch and she's making it look like she did by saying we.
In post 1433, Impoetic wrote:actually i'm not entirely sure what the obvious was directed at it might not have been transcend given my next sentence
i assume i said it on autopilot. I didn't really remember anything about RB, and though i thought his reaction was bad, titus resisting it made me pretty indifferent to that lynch, so i would hope i wasn't referring to that.
When called out (I think by TTTT) she backpedals. This looks like an OK lynch to me tbh
