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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:48 am

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Phewwww
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:54 am

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In post 1481, Dunnstral wrote:If only 1 person dies, we're not in a bad situation.
Well we certainly aren’t in a better place either. If we No Lynch and only 1 person dies unless that person is Camn we are just in the exact same place tomorrow as we are today. And then we No Lynched to bring no clarity to the situation. Camn being lynched means that we at least know for certain her alignment and worst case No Lynch to move from MYLO to LYLO.

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In post 1476, camn wrote:If Magna is town he's gonna say it's my fault, cuz ego.
If you are Town Camn then the game is probably lost for Town then. But I don’t think you are Town so I’m not dissuaded by scare tactics.

I do REALLY appreciate you pre-judging my reaction though. Thanks … it made my day …

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In post 1478, SpyreX wrote:So lld and i are partners?

Why would she have neighborized me?
Let’s be fair Spyrex – this is at the heart a WIFOM argument.

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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 1500, kraska77 wrote:Phewwww
Delayed your decision whether you wanted to not bus and go against your "No Lynching is bad" stance or bus and lose your partner knowing I'd be out for your blood and you can't Nightkill me, huh kraska?
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:14 am

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I'm not talking about it.from a wifom perspective.

So you lld and i cant all be scum together right.

Lld has neighborized you.
Lld has neighborized me.

So at least once, if shes scum, shes wasted the ability. After a man down.

Its not a 50-50 game its a gamble with minimal payoff as scum
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:27 am

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I'm not disagreeing but it is going to be taken from a WIFOM perspective for those not you or me.
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:48 am

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Shadow_step replaces LLD, effective immediately.

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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:50 am

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In post 1503, SpyreX wrote:I'm not talking about it.from a wifom perspective.

So you lld and i cant all be scum together right.

Lld has neighborized you.
Lld has neighborized me.

So at least once, if shes scum, shes wasted the ability. After a man down.

Its not a 50-50 game its a gamble with minimal payoff as scum
What was her ability again? Just a neighbouriser?
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:20 am

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Can the deadline be extended so that I can catch up?
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 1507, Shadow_step wrote:Can the deadline be extended so that I can catch up?
You already got 24 hours. Don't know if he will give you more but no harm in asking.
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:28 am

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In post 1506, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1503, SpyreX wrote:I'm not talking about it.from a wifom perspective.

So you lld and i cant all be scum together right.

Lld has neighborized you.
Lld has neighborized me.

So at least once, if shes scum, shes wasted the ability. After a man down.

Its not a 50-50 game its a gamble with minimal payoff as scum
What was her ability again? Just a neighbouriser?
As far as i know yes. And the pr
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:48 am

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Well, that's too less.
@DS, please give me the weekend atleast. A monday deadline would be nice.
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:43 am

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In post 1510, Shadow_step wrote:Well, that's too less.
@DS, please give me the weekend atleast. A monday deadline would be nice.
24 hours is the standard amount of time to give, even in games with more pages than this. Additionally, this game has been pretty slow (I've had to give a gamewide activity alert), so I'm not particularly inclined to.
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:09 am

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Shadow!
Your vote is parked on me, a townie, putting me at L-1.
Pisskop will lolhammer if he ever comes out of lurk.
If you are serious about wanting to catch up.. you should UNVOTE at once. You should have on your first post.
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:33 am

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In post 1503, SpyreX wrote:So at least once, if shes scum, shes wasted the ability. After a man down.
If it's true, it points to LLD and pisskop then, IMO.
Or LLD and myself, from your perspective.

Don't forget, I also am a 1-shot Neghborizer.
And if we are speculating on night actions...Obviously me neighboring Jae night 2 wouldn't make sense if I were scum. Why kill the guy I am neighboring? Now that would be a waste.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PISSKOP

A shitty deadline lynch should be on a lurker.
THAT is a slot we lynch for 'clarity'
MY slot you just have to ISO.
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:44 am

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In post 1513, camn wrote:If it's true, it points to LLD and pisskop then, IMO.
Or LLD and myself, from your perspective.

Don't forget, I also am a 1-shot Neghborizer.
And if we are speculating on night actions...Obviously me neighboring Jae night 2 wouldn't make sense if I were scum. Why kill the guy I am neighboring? Now that would be a waste.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PISSKOP

A shitty deadline lynch should be on a lurker.
THAT is a slot we lynch for 'clarity'
MY slot you just have to ISO.
No, we aren't deadline lynching a Cop Innocent even if you want to claim "Lol Lurkers are better deadline lynches". Sorry, that piss poor play and not Town at all. Even if you want to float Godfather concern. So no, we aren't lynching that for 'clarity' given Jae's result.

Also a question - do you think there are both a Godfather and Miller in this set-up?
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:46 am

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In post 1512, camn wrote:Your vote is parked on me, a townie, putting me at L-1.
Oh look, if I call myself Townie over and over maybe people will believe it.

Hey Camn, I'm totally Town and the fact you have tried to mislych me today is bad and you should be ashamed.

I guess I can do the same ...
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:48 am

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In post 1503, SpyreX wrote:I'm not talking about it.from a wifom perspective.

So you lld and i cant all be scum together right.

Lld has neighborized you.
Lld has neighborized me.

So at least once, if shes scum, shes wasted the ability. After a man down.

Its not a 50-50 game its a gamble with minimal payoff as scum
She pretty boldly said her ability was compulsive very early on. With that in mind, scum neighborizor is a high-stress role that requires having to spin your scum web on two fronts. If she wasn't confident in her ability to perform, I wouldn't be surprised for her to chose to neighborize her scumbuddy to buy her a night's reprieve.

That said, if Magna was that scumbuddy, I wouldn't expect him to out their D2 neighbor status and cast shade her way unless their was serious drama going on between them in the scum PT.

You, on the other hand, wouldn't be too crazy a possibility. I had read her sudden outburst on you as "I'ma mad that I can't manipulate you!", but I suppose that could have just been a distancing tactic that no other player would ever follow with the aforementioned plan to circle around and hammer whichever townie got to L-1.

And let me reiterate that her claimed punishment for failing her PR does not sit with me at all. A
chance
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chance
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Apologies to the replacement, but I would be happy to lynch that slot if we can muster the votes.

Camn, I've been thinking about your suggestion about bouncing your shot off a claimed BP. Magna would be a terrible idea, because if we misslynch today, a BP scumMagna can just lie about the notification and autowin, but testing Pisskop might not be a bad idea. A BP Godfather with the potential to be further upgraded (assuming he's actually a robot)? That seems crazy. Either he's lying scum or we confirm you both.
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:55 am

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In post 1516, Socrates wrote:Camn, I've been thinking about your suggestion about bouncing your shot off a claimed BP. Magna would be a terrible idea, because if we misslynch today, a BP scumMagna can just lie about the notification and autowin, but testing Pisskop might not be a bad idea. A BP Godfather with the potential to be further upgraded (assuming he's actually a robot)? That seems crazy. Either he's lying scum or we confirm you both.
This is very bad. I mean just terribly bad. You aren't seriously suggesting that Camn 'vig' (and I use the term loosely since I'm fairly confident she's fake-claiming scum) the Cop Innocent are you?

You do understand that Pisskop's "I'm 1Shot BP" in response to Camn's earlier suggestion was clearly pure bullshitting on his part, right? I mean it is pretty clear to me given the play we have seen out of him.

So answer me this - we go to night not lynching Camn and letting her 'vig' pisskop. Then tomorrow roles around with one of two scenarios -

1. Only 1 kill and pisskip is dead and flips Town.
2. Only 1 kill and it is someone else who flips Town.

How to you proceed in these scenarios?
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:00 am

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Im not even voting camn but shes flailing about because I could hammer her?
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:00 am

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This is kind of weaksauce for you camn. In my mind youre a bit of a hardass/ice queeen
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:01 am

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Pisskop ...

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Shadow can get caught up overnight and with Spyrex in their PT ...
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:02 am

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I think camn is town.

That said, don't shoot pisskop and we're not lynching him either
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:03 am

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Quick hammer before Shadow can catch up
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:04 am

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I didn't assume that Piss's claim was bull, I believed it was a serious claim. He's been pretty happy to flippantly refer to his role and he himself said that roles are overrated. I'll go re-read the exchange, but it wasn't obvious to me that he would be faking it as a townie.

As to your scenarios, it would depend on Piss's flip. You seem to forget that BP's are notified when they get shot, so...

1) Scum had to double team him, confirming the vig shot occuring
2) we wait for Pisskop to say whether or not he got shot.

If he's town lieing about being BP, then BLAH! STOP LYING ABOUT YOUR ROLES, PEOPLE!
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:04 am

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In post 1514, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also a question - do you think there are both a Godfather and Miller in this set-up?
We talked about this specifically.
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