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xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:20 am

In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?

I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:20 am

In post 2170, Titus wrote:
In post 2160, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2152, Titus wrote:
In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam
Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?
Hmm..

Also I haf question: Uzi flipped Vanilla Cop. The only reason for the vanilla to be in there is if there are either modifier cops (insane/naive/etc) elsewhere. So if someone also got a cop role, perhaps they are insane? Just a thought, although not sure if the modifiers are considered normal or not. I just don't really see a reason to say 'vanilla' cop if the others aren't normal anyway.
This is just bad.

Vanilla cop checks VT or PR. Goon comes back vanilla.

Cops must be sane in normals. Try again.

I don't know til I ask Titus. That's why I said it was a question. We come from different environments and expectations on what roles are normal or not.

Alisae · Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:21 am

Why are you so dead convinced on trying to convince us that you're the last person that would do that?

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:21 am

In post 2177, Alisae wrote:Why are you so dead convinced on trying to convince us that you're the last person that would do that?

Because I refuse to be sr for killing a friend.

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:22 am

I'll brb I'm getting my juice.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:23 am

In post 2175, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?
I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that

Maybe scum are framing you, who knows. I just don't understand the point of a cloud NK other than your ties to him. I don't accept that it's just a random NK. Scum 'should' be smarter than that.

Alisae · Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:24 am

In post 2180, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2175, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?
I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that
Maybe scum are framing you, who knows. I just don't understand the point of a cloud NK other than your ties to him. I don't accept that it's just a random NK. Scum 'should' be smarter than that.

Tywin, I don't see scum trying to frame Sonia.
If they wanted to frame Sonia, Gamma would be the better NK.
Unless they are trying to frame Sonia, in which case Gamma is scum.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:25 am

In post 2179, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I'll brb I'm getting my juice.

Laid back, with my mind on the scummy and the scummy on my mind.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:26 am

In post 2181, Alisae wrote:
In post 2180, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2175, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?
I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that
Maybe scum are framing you, who knows. I just don't understand the point of a cloud NK other than your ties to him. I don't accept that it's just a random NK. Scum 'should' be smarter than that.
Tywin, I don't see scum trying to frame Sonia.
If they wanted to frame Sonia, Gamma would be the better NK.
Unless they are trying to frame Sonia, in which case Gamma is scum.

Why would gamma implicate Sonia?

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:26 am

Actually, I want to hear from Gamma now. I forgot he was in this game

Alisae · Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:26 am

In post 2183, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2181, Alisae wrote:
In post 2180, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2175, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?
I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that
Maybe scum are framing you, who knows. I just don't understand the point of a cloud NK other than your ties to him. I don't accept that it's just a random NK. Scum 'should' be smarter than that.
Tywin, I don't see scum trying to frame Sonia.
If they wanted to frame Sonia, Gamma would be the better NK.
Unless they are trying to frame Sonia, in which case Gamma is scum.
Why would gamma implicate Sonia?

Wasn't Gamma the only real person pushing Sonia?

Aj The Epic · Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:27 am

In post 148, CloudKicker wrote:sonia titus elbirn pine are all looking bad atm, i like uzi, lap and another guy i forgot

Well we got double town flip out of this.

The thing is, I don't think CK plays a lot of OMGUS into his scum game. He constantly made a case for Alisae not being scum, points double town out of our flips etc etc. I'm wanting to lynch through his scumreads and see what pops up.

I'm about to say he was buddying Sonia to let her know he was the traitor and that he DID know (I've never seen a traitor that doesn't). In fact, some of his posts (Sonia townleading?!?! emote emote) seems sarcastic and really unneeded ambiguity that wasn't even that true in the context. (His post 668 for context).

I don't know if I'm good enough to see what triggered his death. He SRs SSBM, Seems to flip to SR Alisae, interacts weirdly with Sonia (buddying), is actually interested in Nero. Flips Lapsa once traitor is noted, which in THEORY should be when we find his crumb.

And... here it is:

In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

VOTE: Kyouko

I think CK was hinting through him and maybe Sonia, but more sure of him.

P;edit: I'm cooking so my responses are disjointed and late.

Aj The Epic · Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:29 am

Also can someone explain the titus/Cabd "Clear" read?

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:30 am

^ this guy knows how to make smart posts

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:31 am

In post 2187, Aj The Epic wrote:Also can someone explain the titus/Cabd "Clear" read?

Cabd claimed gunsmith, claimed he didn't find a gun on titus

Titus · Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:32 am

AJ, Cabd claims he checked me and I do not have a gun. True.

VOTE: SSM

Aj The Epic · Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:32 am

okay, was concerned it was coming from a CK interaction because if I was sticking with my theory, Titus actually got called scum an abnormal amount by CK. I guess his reads can't be 100% perfect and honestly I think he circumvented it by having a lot of townreads.

Alisae · Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:32 am

Tywin...Your avatar scares me ;~;
Also why don't you come onto the Kyouko wagon?
We got beer!

Alisae · Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:33 am

Cabd, why did you do your thingy on Titus?

xSoniaNevermindx · Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:35 am

Okay I'm calmed down a little bit.
Let me try again.
You think I'm scum because I'm the only one where the cloud nk makes sense when I don't think NKA makes much sense
he could've been a pr kill
he could've been random
he could've been because he was tr by a lot of people
there's a lot of reasons

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:36 am

VOTE: Kyouko. L-4 now I believe

I still wanna hear from Syryana on that vigi claim that came right before Alisae countered. I believe her over him.

Titus · Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:36 am

In post 2193, Alisae wrote:Cabd, why did you do your thingy on Titus?

For players of a certain era, I am a universal check if wrong early on.

Alisae · Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:37 am

Actually Tywin, why did you feel the need to so suddenly jump on Sonia about the NK?

Aj The Epic · Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:39 am

In post 2194, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Okay I'm calmed down a little bit.
Let me try again.
You think I'm scum because I'm the only one where the cloud nk makes sense when I don't think NKA makes much sense
he could've been a pr kill
he could've been random
he could've been because he was tr by a lot of people
there's a lot of reasons

Having played with players in the past who could 100% read me, I don't really buy this. Had a friend who used to play mafia a lot with me who'd be able to pick me as scum/town by D3 (I could do the same back so it was a bit of WIFOM city). Among friends offsite it was known that if one of us died, the other was always suspect because of that. CK claims to be able to read you, CK dies. It's not the most thorough case, but it's a mark against you regardless of liking it or not.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:39 am

Sonia, I think the buddying is more in-line with the SR than the NK itself. The NK is just icing, but not the real substance of it. The NK is all WIFOM, so you claiming you'd never do it to a buddy can also be supported by scum thinking 'I'll NK cloud and nobody will suspect me since I'd never NK a buddy' kind of deal. It's all WIFOM either way.