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[Tywin Lannister]

Actually Tywin, why did you feel the need to so suddenly jump on Sonia about the NK?

Because I don't understand why cloud was picked over almost anyone else. The only connection cloud really had was Sonia, and she laughed about him getting NK'd by saying 'take that for buddying me!' Paraphrased a bit, but it just seemed off.

[Alisae]

Yeah, I think I know who I'm viggin tonight.
I'm okay with a Kyouko or Tywin lynch at this point.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Sonia, I think the buddying is more in-line with the SR than the NK itself. The NK is just icing, but not the real substance of it. The NK is all WIFOM, so you claiming you'd never do it to a buddy can also be supported by scum thinking 'I'll NK cloud and nobody will suspect me since I'd never NK a buddy' kind of deal. It's all WIFOM either way.

The buddying was prob because Cloud knows if you can get past my paranoia I am really fucking easy to buddy

[Cabd]

NO MORE VOTES please.

I want our constant stragglers to catch up.

[Alisae]

Fine Cabd, but don't you think it's wierd that Tywin jumped on Sonia for the NK way too suddenly. It feels forced to me.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Tywin let's assume I'm scum yeah
Cloud has the biggest tr on me ever that's clear
Why do I kill him over others like the vig claim etc

[Cabd]

Cabd, why did you do your thingy on Titus?

I knew from the second I broke up the day one fight I was going to check whichever of the two I thought was town less going into night one and then pray I lived the night.

Also once syr is here; I wanna talk setup spec because I have thoughts to bounce off of him.

[Aj The Epic]

Like this is one of the few situations where I think NKA is actually pertinent...

Sonia, how good are you and CK at reading each other, with like a % approximation both ways, and how many days does that take to be sure?

We cannot really overlook that if Alisae is telling the truth (which is seems likely) this is seriously one of the weirdest kills to make even regardless of CK's alignment. He WASN'T the bona fide most town needed to be eliminated person, he was kinda fledgling middle. Cabd was my guess for dying tonight, that or Syrn's slot (which I guess is rightfully getting some suspicion) and Elbrin next if they were uncomfortable with going after the first set. THEN CK/Myself/Titus would've/should've been in contention, some 4-6 shots down. And Alisae, with claimed killing power. There's a reason CK died and I didn't see any PR crumbing other than traitor, so I'm guessing it's on reads.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Hard question to answer because we mostly can read each other from chat games that's where we play a ton
in the forum games we played cloud read me right 1/2 and I had him 1/2
It took about 1 week irl time

[Titus]

UNVOTE: SSM

[Aj The Epic]

And your read on CK yesterday?

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I had him as town tbh

[Elbirn]

Stop talking I'm at work when the thread opened Jesus

1. I need this kill shit sorted out. Alisae claimed a vig shot on uzi. Syr claimed vig first (last day phase) and all of that seemed dodgy af at the time and now I'm confused even more cuz okay alisae claimed it but syr even said that he would shoot uzi.

Regarding the cloud shot we need mod clarification for one. I know in some setups shooting the traitor recruits them. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the mod if that is the case here. If so someone else shot cloud. If not then okay, scumteam shooting cloud is still plausible; he was fairly townread by most but not a stand out player who might be protected, and it's plausible that his reads were on point anyway because he'd want to signal to his team mates. Check his reads and who he votes, there's the scum.

It may also be good to ask if scum team knew that they had a traitor, but I don't know if that's going too far as what mod can disclose.

2. I have long since learned that shit happens for a reason and "lmao wifom" is the cry of butt mad scum. We don't deal with that shit. Not now, not ever. Cabd called for no voting while peeps catch up, and yeah I'm still evaluating, but consider this a stink eye for sonia.

3. I'm at work shutup for a bit

4. Jk ily guys

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Anyone who says wifom can't think of a real defense

[Elbirn]

Cloud was tr by a lot of people it's not out of question Cloud was the scumkill

Do not joke about claiming a kill. Ty vm.

Titus what was this about?

[xSoniaNevermindx]

White Knighting and Omgus also fall under this category of people who can't think of a legit sr and slap things on
butjust those 3

[Titus]

Cloud was tr by a lot of people it's not out of question Cloud was the scumkill

Do not joke about claiming a kill. Ty vm.

Titus what was this about?

Sonia joked about murdering Cloud.

[Elbirn]

Anyone who says wifom can't think of a real defense

Tywin let's assume I'm scum yeah
Cloud has the biggest tr on me ever that's clear
Why do I kill him over others like the vig claim etc

Maybe I didn't really make myself clear but I was criticizing you saying wifom and not the others saying that you were doing wifom.

[Cephrir]

Traitors in this setup are the kind defined as Normal on the traitor wiki page.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Anyone who says wifom can't think of a real defense

Tywin let's assume I'm scum yeah
Cloud has the biggest tr on me ever that's clear
Why do I kill him over others like the vig claim etc

Maybe I didn't really make myself clear but I was criticizing you saying wifom and not the others saying that you were doing wifom.

I was trying to ask him a question cause I wanted to hear his answer is

[Alisae]

Elbrin you're saying that we probably ended up shooting the same target?

[Elbirn]

Cloud tried to pocket me.
Suck it

So you're claiming Vig that shot Cloud?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sure?

This? Cuz it seemed clearly a joke.


You know what fuck it I'm gonna say some dumb shit

Your post doesn't sit well with me cuz it sounds like you were softing that you did that kill. Then cabd gunsmith'ed you and got no gun. So you changed your tune because you'd have to have a knife making you the sk.

I'm gonna go back to work and let everyone tear me to shreds, deuces

[Elbirn]

Elbrin you're saying that we probably ended up shooting the same target?

Nah I'm saying one of you is lying but uh that is also possible?

[Elbirn]

Elbrin you're saying that we probably ended up shooting the same target?

Nah I'm saying one of you is lying but uh that is also possible?

Wait no its not, there can't be two vigs

If you both have kill powers than

Uh

One is sk



And then I should leave titus alone dude idk I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

[Alisae]

Why can't their be 2 vigs?