Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

Alisae · Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:49 pm

In post 1558, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I don't see the reason she unvotes so quickly here.

And why don't you just ask me?
I'll tell you anyways. I figured that others were not satisfied with AJ, and while I was, I unvoted. I also figured I would be more satisfied with AJ once I saw what his other interactions would be.

Alisae · Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:43 pm

In post 1575, Lapsa wrote:It would be weird if I treated Aj different.

Explain
VOTE: Lapsa

Alisae · Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:49 pm

Why it would be weird if you treated aj differently?

Alisae · Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:53 pm

Oh okay. I also misread would as wouldn't.

Keeping my vote here because I think you're scum.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:51 am

Gamma that's a lot of scum on your list. Who are the most scummy to you?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:50 am

Aj, I like your scum reads, and I'm not scum but besides that they're good.

Explain your case on Kyouko in case I'm dumb and already missed it.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:07 am

In post 1646, Aj The Epic wrote:More importantly, Kyouko explains away some bad votes with "I was sheeping", specifically why he was on my wagon.

Remember my case on Kyouko? Agree with it or nah?
I believe it's post 1445

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:57 am

@Syryana question, I assuming you are giving moz a townread. Why?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:02 pm

In post 1683, Syryana wrote:
In post 1681, Alisae wrote:@Syryana question, I assuming you are giving moz a townread. Why?
Cos I like the words she's said since I've been in the thread

ISO her and look at her first origonal vote on me. At this point we were way out of RVS, but does it seem odd to you that Moz placed her vote while she was catching up.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 1688, CloudKicker wrote:^not sure how that would be ai to be honest

It's her reaction. If I got a vote at the time for being juvinilla, that seems strange considering that Pine and Elbrin just politely asked me to stop.

Not to mention I don't see why someone would place a vote during their catch up.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:11 pm

In post 1691, CloudKicker wrote:@syr iso the guy, i think hes been genuine and i also townread him before he started to go full psychotic

I agree with this read. Not to mention I townread Transcend. He's only making my townread stronger.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:19 pm

Titus, remind me again who are your top scumpicks?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:39 pm

In post 1698, Titus wrote:
In post 1695, Alisae wrote:Titus, remind me again who are your top scumpicks?
Lapsa and Tywin.

After Tywin?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:39 pm

In post 1720, Syryana wrote:
In post 1690, Syryana wrote:Alisae wrote:
ISO her and look at her first origonal vote on me. At this point we were way out of RVS, but does it seem odd to you that Moz placed her vote while she was catching up.
I read her ISO

Nothing in it said "your goodfeels on mozamis are bad and you should feel bad"

Thats fine, if anything they seem null to me because I'm overthinking it.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:50 pm

Syrana who do you wanna lynch?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:51 pm

Oh wait I saw you wanna lynch Titus.
Who else do you wanna lynch besides Titus.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:55 pm

Alright. Thoughts about Kyouko?

Also why do you think Titus is scum?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:15 pm

In post 1745, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyone calling this a townslip from now on gets the motherfucking murdercock. I know what he was saying.

Then what was he saying?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:22 pm

Moz, is there anything about Tywin that could make people think that he is scummy?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:33 pm

In post 1764, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1762, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1760, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1759, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:His username sounds like a name of an actor to be honest.
It's the name of a character.
From?
You are culturally blind: Game of Thrones.

never heard of it.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:09 pm

In post 1781, Titus wrote:
In post 1772, mozamis wrote:
In post 1526, Alisae wrote:it's so bad and scummy that its something that no one in their right mind would do
I know what you mean. I thought about his vote for Tywin.
But ultimately, I think it's best not overthink it, and see it for what it probably is: scum panicking that their mislynch is getting derailed.

I guess that solidifies my thinking that Lapsa is scum.
Alisea looks better for essentially posting what i was thinking.
Help me bus. At least then your vote will do some good.

Then you and Tywin can murder me.

What the fuck is this?
I mean, I must be really tired, but I have no idea what this means.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:15 pm

Cabd whats up with the cloud read? I feel like he's town mostly because he wanted town me to calm down cause I was overeacting over stuff.

Moz, if you dunno about Titus, why is your vote still on them? Don't you have stronger SRs?
Also your thoughts about Pine?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:16 pm

In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her

Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:17 pm

In post 1795, mozamis wrote:
In post 1793, Cabd wrote:
In post 1791, mozamis wrote:Cabd prob town. Gotta hope so, anyway. Surely even scum Cabd wouldnt be this involved.
I probably would if with the right team; but you'll have to work with that paranoia anyways.

@SYR: Not Alignment Indicative
With guys like you, I work on the basis that it's madness to lynch, but obviously you are never cleared.
The paranoia's all part of the fun!

The only people who really like paranoia within the town is scum. Unless this is sarcasm. In which case that did not come out well and makes me want to vote you.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:26 pm

Actually, I just thought of something. What should I make of Titus commenting on most of my reads whenever I gave them?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:30 pm

Anyhow reads.

{Cabd, Syryana, Elbrin, AJ, Cloud, Nero, Moz, me} <--- My town pool.
{Uzi, Sonia, Gamma} <--- I dunno tier
{Titus, Lapsa, Mos, Pine, Tywin, Kyouko} <--- Things I'm okay with lynching

BTW Syryana, who is in your avatar?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:31 pm

Titus in the event you missed this.

In post 1799, Alisae wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:35 pm

In post 1817, Cabd wrote:
In post 1813, Alisae wrote:{Titus, Lapsa, Mos, Pine, Tywin, Kyouko} <--- Things I'm okay with lynching
LMAO please explain how you have Titus and Tywin in the same scumtier?!?

Unless you're trying to say they're pulling the scum theater of the century?

To be honest, I think they could have easily pulled off the scum theater of the century. Knowing Tywin, it would be very easy.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:37 pm

In post 1820, Titus wrote:
In post 1814, Alisae wrote:Titus in the event you missed this.
In post 1799, Alisae wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.
Because it's blatantly true. An SK denying that is autolynch.

I am not too inclined to lynch you today, as scum can handle you if I am correct barring a really unbalanced fucked over game.

So you're implying that if I am SK, that I am dieing tonight. Nice!

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:39 pm

In post 1823, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1821, Alisae wrote:
In post 1817, Cabd wrote:
In post 1813, Alisae wrote:{Titus, Lapsa, Mos, Pine, Tywin, Kyouko} <--- Things I'm okay with lynching
LMAO please explain how you have Titus and Tywin in the same scumtier?!?

Unless you're trying to say they're pulling the scum theater of the century?
To be honest, I think they could have easily pulled off the scum theater of the century. Knowing Tywin, it would be very easy.
Nah Tywin is town. Took me a while to reach that conclusion but I got there.

I'm moreso compelled to think that, but I'm not kicking out the possibility alltogether.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:42 pm

In post 1826, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1822, Alisae wrote:
In post 1820, Titus wrote:
In post 1814, Alisae wrote:Titus in the event you missed this.
In post 1799, Alisae wrote:
In post 1794, Titus wrote:Alisae - If there is an SK, probably her
Why would an SK admit to trying to please everyone including scum? That just seems idiotic to me.
Because it's blatantly true. An SK denying that is autolynch.

I am not too inclined to lynch you today, as scum can handle you if I am correct barring a really unbalanced fucked over game.
So you're implying that if I am SK, that I am dieing tonight. Nice!
I sense something in your tone. Explain it.

That I drew the NK. Which I am okay with.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:43 pm

In post 1830, Gamma Emerald wrote:fffffffff
either that's masterful posturing or you're kinda an idiot

I am very much so an idiot.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:44 pm

Also I am trying to do something by saying I drew the NK.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:50 pm

Deadline for Day 1 is December 30 at 11 AM Eastern.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:51 pm

Yeah, ywall are right. I'm overthinking it. They're probably just both town.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:54 pm

In post 1845, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:He has 3 days.

30-20=3. Perfect logic.

No seriously, what are your reads?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:59 pm

His ISO will explain everything. Atleast I think it will. Listen to the other nerds tho.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:59 pm

BTW Lapsa is at L-3 I think.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:02 pm

In post 1862, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1856, Syryana wrote:Also can some tell me in 15 words or less why Lapsa is a thing
762 is a traitor crumb for his scumteam, according to him.

^11 words

And you aren't joining the wagon yet because?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:07 pm

And what if there isn't a traitor at all?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:11 pm

In post 1871, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You're scummier than he is and I don't buy into not lynching my top scumread just because Titus thinks your an SK. I'd hammer him if my vote was needed but I'd rather lynch you today.

Explain to me why you don't buy it. Because I don't buy the fact that you don't buy it.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:32 pm

Now town along with Titus.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:49 pm

In post 1915, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1911, Titus wrote:
In post 1910, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1901, Titus wrote:
In post 1900, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1875, Alisae wrote:
In post 1871, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You're scummier than he is and I don't buy into not lynching my top scumread just because Titus thinks your an SK. I'd hammer him if my vote was needed but I'd rather lynch you today.
Explain to me why you don't buy it. Because I don't buy the fact that you don't buy it.
I don't buy it because I think SKs need to be lynched since they're not aligned with the town.
Wait for evidence of SK before entertaining a theory that requires an SK
The theory that Alisae is scum is not contingent on her being a SK. You're the one that suggested she was SK in the first place, because she's trying to be nice to everyone, but I think she's more likely to be traitor or scum PR trying to get onto town's good side. If I thought she were necessarily SK I could understand why we would leave her alone for now, but I don't think she is. And if she is, what's to stop her from killing us because we found her and scum didn't? If she is SK she'd be a liability at this point.
She's been too nice to everyone, including scum, to make sense as one of them.
She hasn't been too nice to everyone though, and we don't know who any of the scum are yet.

Citations please.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:16 pm

In post 1898, Alisae wrote:Now town along with Titus.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:32 pm

Here you go Elbrin.

Spoiler:

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:44 pm

Oh yeah, didn't include my RVS vote Elbrin. Mybad.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:45 pm

In post 1927, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1898, Alisae wrote:Now town along with Titus.
And what do you think of me now? Still scummy?

Yes, you're scummy. You're guilty as hell

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:48 pm

In post 1933, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1932, Alisae wrote:
In post 1927, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1898, Alisae wrote:Now town along with Titus.
And what do you think of me now? Still scummy?
Yes, you're scummy. You're guilty as hell
Are you a Daycop?

Why would I answer this question?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:10 pm

Sure. I think you're scummy because you still think I'm traitor even tho if I wanted to get noticed my be scum buddies, I would have switched to the Elbrin wagon. Also even if I was or was SK, you much rather lynch me now then have it be confirmed that an SK is in the game. This does seem natural to me, but from a scum perspective, it would be easier for you to lynch me then to let me be around night 1 to potentailly fuck one of your scumbuddies up. And if I'm not the SK, then it works out for you.

My point is, you much rather lynch me because I could be a potential threat to you if I am the SK. And if I flip as town, then it helps you either way.

The previous theory was that You, Tywin, and Lapsa were all scum, and it would have been seen by your attempt to bus Tywin. Now Tywin is just cut out of the picture. But then you also said you would have hammered Lapsa if needed and stay on my wagon. You then changed your mind very quickly from wanting to stay on my wagon and if needed hammer Lapsa to making the Lapsa wagon L-2. I still see you and Lapsa as being scum buddies.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:11 pm

In post 1936, Gamma Emerald wrote:You used the word guilty so I was joking around because that's how cop results on mafia are claimed sometimes.

I just felt like making a reference to something Orson Welles said.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:40 pm

In post 1940, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1937, Alisae wrote:Sure. I think you're scummy because you still think I'm traitor even tho if I wanted to get noticed my be scum buddies, I would have switched to the Elbrin wagon. Also even if I was or was SK, you much rather lynch me now then have it be confirmed that an SK is in the game. This does seem natural to me, but from a scum perspective, it would be easier for you to lynch me then to let me be around night 1 to potentailly fuck one of your scumbuddies up. And if I'm not the SK, then it works out for you.

My point is, you much rather lynch me because I could be a potential threat to you if I am the SK. And if I flip as town, then it helps you either way.

The previous theory was that You, Tywin, and Lapsa were all scum, and it would have been seen by your attempt to bus Tywin. Now Tywin is just cut out of the picture. But then you also said you would have hammered Lapsa if needed and stay on my wagon. You then changed your mind very quickly from wanting to stay on my wagon and if needed hammer Lapsa to making the Lapsa wagon L-2. I still see you and Lapsa as being scum buddies.
I don't want 2 anti-town night kills in the game. Yes it makes sense to think that scum would want to lynch the SK, but it also makes sense for town to want to lynch them. The chances of the SK hitting town are much greater than of them hitting scum because there are many more town in the game than scum. If I'm scum with Lapsa, why do I point out what I thought was a traitor crumb in the first place? I just don't understand how you're coming to the conclusions you're coming to about me, and it feels like your read on me is OMGUS-spirited. You felt like I was town for a long time until I noticed what you were doing and called you out on it, and only then did you start to SR me. When I pointed out the thing about how you associate Tywin and me as scum bussing scum, and it no longer fits into your fabricated SR of me, you change your mind and now I'm bussing Lapsa. This is absurd and your reads on me are as fake as the feigned frustration that Elbirn pointed out.

What I'm saying about the SK stuff is that on day 1, there is no way to know for sure that there is an SK. So it would be better for town to wait till day 2 to see that if there is an SK to see if he does anything.

And no, I started to townread you until you voted for Tywin, because that just felt off for me. Saying I townread you until you voted for Tywin. For the most part, while you were thinking I was scum, I was thinking you were town until you voted for Tywin.

Also part of that was me not knowing what was up with the dayvig, I thought that the dayvig might have happen at the end of the day, I don't exactly know with that.

As for pointing out the traitor crumb, I feel like it would have been weird if you didn't point that out.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:01 pm

In post 1933, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1932, Alisae wrote:
In post 1927, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1898, Alisae wrote:Now town along with Titus.
And what do you think of me now? Still scummy?
Yes, you're scummy. You're guilty as hell
Are you a Daycop?

Also Gamma, don't you think if I was daycop, I would have used my ability by now on someone like either Titus, Tywin, you, Lapsa, or Kyouko?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:58 pm

Tywin I hope you get better!

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:08 pm

Pine you do you buddy.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:19 pm

In post 1955, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1954, Alisae wrote:buddy

I am the Walrus.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:27 pm

Nero, thoughts on the Lapsa wagon?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:02 pm

In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.

So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:03 pm

And no, I'm not the SK.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:18 pm

In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.

Do you think it's read dodging coming from Titus?

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:22 pm

In post 1973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1972, Alisae wrote:
In post 1970, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1967, Alisae wrote:
In post 1966, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1965, Nero Cain wrote:In hindsight,
MAYBE
you could argue that Titus was voting Lapsa b/c she thought it was scummy that Lapsa didn't like masons/the fake mason claim but it still seems skin deep and opportunistic. Both Elbrin and Alisae votes were blank sheep votes. Ali later claimed that she voted Lapsa b/c he seemed anti-town. I really don't feel like my Titus vote was bad as I didn't like any of them.

If Lapsa flips town how would it change your reads on those 3 slots?
I think Ali is scum regardless of Lapsa's alignment. I think Titus is town regardless. Elbirn was wagoned by quite a few SRs so I think he's town regardless.
So me being SK is potentially a bunch of bullshit to you?
Yeah, the SK talk feels like read dodging from ssbm.
Do you think it's read dodging coming from Titus?
She's not the one mentioning it over and over, so no.

Really? I thought she was the person that brought the idea forward in the first place.

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:24 pm

Yeah you sniped me.
Swiper no swiping

Alisae · Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:38 pm

BTW Gamma, I think you're town now. Nice to have ya on the side of the townies.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:10 am

Tywin read on me?

And I assume you like the Lapsa wagon? Why don't you have a seat or intent to hammer (assuming Elbrin takes the L-1 seat)?

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:43 am

Tywin, do you feel as if Kyouko on a scum team specifcily with Kyouko or not?

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:54 am

In post 1990, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 1988, Gamma Emerald wrote:wat

In post 1987, Alisae wrote:Tywin, do you feel as if Kyouko on a scum team specifcily with
Lapsa
or not?
wat

Edited. 4am. Need to sleep, probably am not going to sleep anyways.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:14 am

In post 1993, Tywin Lannister wrote:Do you have any specific connections between Lapsa/Kyouko though? That's worth looking into regardless, but if it's just Kyouko not voting Lapsa, I don't see a problem with it right now.

I remember me having a connection atleast. I'll revisit this once I get some sleep and see if I can find said connection.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:38 am

In post 2007, Tywin Lannister wrote:Honestly? I'm starting to think Lapsa/AJ/Nosferatu just off their early exchange with Cabd and knowing there's day talk.

If Nos were scum with these two, his vote on Cloud seems very off unless he's catching up while placing it.
Like, it seems it would be super uncordinated with his scumteam.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:35 am

VOTE: Nosferatu

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:54 am

Elbrin whats your day 2 plan if you don't mind me asking?

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:19 am

VOTE: Lapsa

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:21 am

In post 2061, Syryana wrote:I know who I'm vigging tonight.

Can I not vig the same person please.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:24 am

In post 2066, Syryana wrote:
In post 2062, Cabd wrote:UNVOTE:

I don't want to lynch before claim/catchup promised by pine, tho
Too late mate. Alisae was lolhammer.

Nah I unvoted and then just hopped back on. Last time I checked Lapsa was at l-2.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:24 am

In post 2068, Syryana wrote:Nah, I was fakehammering for reaction test purposes.

Results: Alisae gon git vig'd

Kay I'll vig Kyouko or Lapsa. Pick one. I personally wanna do Kyouko.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:25 am

Or Nos.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:26 am

Ooooooh, I get it.
Tho why didn't you say it was at L-1 at this point?
And I thought Tywin was on the wagon as well and he just hopped off.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:27 am

Oh well, if you're gonna vig me, I'm gonna also claim Vig. Not X-Shot.
My plan was to shoot either Kyouko or Nos.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:29 am

In post 2076, Syryana wrote:
In post 2068, Syryana wrote:Nah, I was fakehammering for reaction test purposes.
And Tywin was on Titus, not Lapsa.

Shows how much attention I've been paying.

Alisae · Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:29 am

Yeah, I softed multiple times. Turns out it just got more pressure on me LOL XD.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:29 am

In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

Am I going crazy, or did I find something with this?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:29 am

Pretty sure it's the former.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:32 am

In post 2093, Cabd wrote:
In post 2075, Alisae wrote:Oh well, if you're gonna vig me, I'm gonna also claim Vig. Not X-Shot.
My plan was to shoot either Kyouko or Nos.
Claim your shot.

Uzi.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:36 am

Also, while I go type up my reasoning, Syryana, I assume you're gonna claim the cloud shot?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:44 am

For reasoning behind the uzi shot, I was mostly swayed but what a lot of people were saying while Was re-looking over.
Also got the feeling he was trying to whiteknight me.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:45 am

Gun to my head town.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:49 am

Sonia, what's your read on me?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:52 am

In post 2133, Tywin Lannister wrote:I am really starting to think Sonia is scum at this point. There was no real reason for scum to shoot at cloud except their friendship connection. Why not shoot one of the stronger TRs like Cabd or something? Why not shoot me or Titus and put WIFOM shade on the other? Why not shoot anyone that looks like a PR? Why cloud? It's funny that he's the traitor, but scum shooting cloud means they did it for personal reasons over in-game ones. That points directly to Sonia IMO.

Thoughts on Kyouko?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:53 am

In post 2137, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:WERE GOOD FRIENDS AND IF I WAS SCUM I WOULD'VE KEPT HIM ALIVE FOR SO LONG

I can WIFOM this all fucking day.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:54 am

Sonia, why did you scumread yourself?
Lmao

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:00 am

In post 2145, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Cloud was rubbing up on me harder then a hooker on a fucking pole did you read that buddy shit?

On 2nd thought, if Cloud was the traitor, why would he rub you up?

In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:04 am

In post 2150, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:First Titus ignores my hugs
Now she just gives me silence
okay I can't take it anymore alisae shoot me in the face
Pedit: E X A C T L Y

Have you ever tried handholding?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:08 am

In post 2152, Titus wrote:
In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam
Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?

To me it really does.

To me it also suggest a lynch on Sonia. It's makes absolutely no sense for her to shoot cloud that it makes sense.
Not to mention if Cloud was trying to buddy her, he could be trying to indicate to Sonia to pick him up on the scumteam.
Tho that part on Sonia probably needs more work.
VOTE: Kyouko

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:08 am

Also if Scum wanted to frame Sonia, wouldn't Gamma be a much better choice for a NK?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:15 am

In post 2163, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2158, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:People who shout wifom are people who can't expect logical facts
There's no way the Cloud scum kill points to me you're saying it's personal when people just townread cloud and he could be the nk for that
THAT'S THE SIMPLE FUCKING ANSWER
What you're suggesting is I'm basically going "omg guys I know cloud and he's rly good let's get'em!"
So your answer is 'cloud was NK'd just because he was a town read' and that's it? Scum didn't even try to look for a better NK? They just chose randomly through anyone that wasn't on their team?
You know better than this Sonia.

Huh?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:18 am

on 2nd thought, did Cloud ever even give reads?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:21 am

Why are you so dead convinced on trying to convince us that you're the last person that would do that?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:24 am

In post 2180, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2175, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?
I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that
Maybe scum are framing you, who knows. I just don't understand the point of a cloud NK other than your ties to him. I don't accept that it's just a random NK. Scum 'should' be smarter than that.

Tywin, I don't see scum trying to frame Sonia.
If they wanted to frame Sonia, Gamma would be the better NK.
Unless they are trying to frame Sonia, in which case Gamma is scum.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:26 am

In post 2183, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2181, Alisae wrote:
In post 2180, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2175, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2168, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2161, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:"Sonia nking cloud doesn't make sense so much that it makes sense hahahaa"
S H O O T M E I N T H E H E A D
Cloud buddied my ass cause he knows I'm really easy to buddy.
Simple
So if we WIFOM the exact opposite here and say cloud buddied your ass because he was traitor and knew you were scum... You'd call us stupid and that a joke, correct? Why would you not be able to understand both perspectives?
I understand if people would think I was scum for being scum.
I would understand if Cloud was lynched and people thought we were scum buddies
I do not understand how the Cloud kill points to me what so ever when I'm the last person here who would do that
Maybe scum are framing you, who knows. I just don't understand the point of a cloud NK other than your ties to him. I don't accept that it's just a random NK. Scum 'should' be smarter than that.
Tywin, I don't see scum trying to frame Sonia.
If they wanted to frame Sonia, Gamma would be the better NK.
Unless they are trying to frame Sonia, in which case Gamma is scum.
Why would gamma implicate Sonia?

Wasn't Gamma the only real person pushing Sonia?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:32 am

Tywin...Your avatar scares me ;~;
Also why don't you come onto the Kyouko wagon?
We got beer!

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:33 am

Cabd, why did you do your thingy on Titus?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:37 am

Actually Tywin, why did you feel the need to so suddenly jump on Sonia about the NK?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:42 am

Yeah, I think I know who I'm viggin tonight.
I'm okay with a Kyouko or Tywin lynch at this point.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:46 am

Fine Cabd, but don't you think it's wierd that Tywin jumped on Sonia for the NK way too suddenly. It feels forced to me.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:18 pm

Elbrin you're saying that we probably ended up shooting the same target?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:23 pm

Why can't their be 2 vigs?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:25 pm

Titus, at this point who the fuck is not scum to you?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:25 pm

Also Syr could have been reaction testing by saying he could be Vig. That possiblity also just came to my mind.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:29 pm

In post 2231, Cabd wrote:I'm starting to think that I'm the only person who gets syr's sense of humor...

To be honest, you probably are.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:30 pm

@cabd

In post 2204, Alisae wrote:Fine Cabd, but don't you think it's wierd that Tywin jumped on Sonia for the NK way too suddenly. It feels forced to me.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:36 pm

In post 2267, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2264, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2049, Alisae wrote:Elbrin whats your day 2 plan if you don't mind me asking
Oh I forgot I quoted this. Alisae what was this about?

Elbrin, if I told you that I don't remember, would you believe me?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:48 pm

In post 2272, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2268, Alisae wrote:
In post 2267, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2264, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2049, Alisae wrote:Elbrin whats your day 2 plan if you don't mind me asking
Oh I forgot I quoted this. Alisae what was this about?
Elbrin, if I told you that I don't remember, would you believe me?
......No?

What was the point of this, I want to know. There was surely a purpose. Either way I don't even know what it meant.

I don't remember.
No seriously, I don't.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:01 pm

In post 2278, mozamis wrote:
In post 2243, Elbirn wrote:In post 1842, CloudKicker wrote:
Titus is town, tywin is town, aj looks town, sonia is gut town with pro reads that are just like mine. Sbm might be playing a great scumgame btw, elbirn looks town enough, gamma with the mason comment looks ridiculously town
So Titus, tywin and Aj scum?
I can totally buy that.
Apart from the massive tywin and titus spat. Epic performance if so. I know Titus is capable of that sort of game. Anyone know Tywin's game? Is he good enough to pull of that kind of stuff?

Yep. He is definitely good enough to pull that shit off.

Read this game for an example:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69290
We spent the whole game scumreading each other. We were both townies.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:05 pm

Elbrin, if Tywin is town. Describe his push on Sonia earlier. Because that feels forced to me.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:49 pm

Pine do you think Cloud incriminated Kyouko?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:03 pm

If Tywin flips scum, Sonia is town to me.

The reason why I said it felt forced was that he immediately jumped on Sonia about the NK.
I bought it at the time, but I took more time to think about it before I came to the conclusion that it felt forced.
Not to mention Tywin continued to push Sonia when Sonia wasn't responding well to the pressure.
So I could see why you think I'm all over the place with that.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:07 pm

@Pine

In post 1872, CloudKicker wrote:Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:17 pm

I like the first one.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:21 pm

In post 2305, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2300, Alisae wrote:If Tywin flips scum, Sonia is town to me.

The reason why I said it felt forced was that he immediately jumped on Sonia about the NK.
I bought it at the time, but I took more time to think about it before I came to the conclusion that it felt forced.
Not to mention Tywin continued to push Sonia when Sonia wasn't responding well to the pressure.
So I could see why you think I'm all over the place with that.
Do you think it's scummy to push someone cracking under pressure, or..?

Eh, it depends if they're being provacative or not.

But Tywin easily knew that Sonia could not respond well under pressure. She voted me up when I said she was overeacting, and she and Gamma got into some kind of fight.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:23 pm

In post 2311, Aj The Epic wrote:
Alisae wrote:I like the first one.
Can't fathom why.

Cloud fliped Loved Traitor.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:25 pm

Actually newbie question, but humor me.

Whats the difference between a normal traitor and a loved traitor?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:29 pm

In post 2324, Aj The Epic wrote:
Alisae wrote:
In post 2311, Aj The Epic wrote:
Alisae wrote:I like the first one.
Can't fathom why.
Cloud fliped Loved Traitor.
I'll remember to work on my sarcasm, or my sarcasm detection.

I knew you were being sarcastic.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:29 pm

In post 2327, Cabd wrote:In fact I'd argue if my hunch is right we have a SOLID townblock to win the game from now.

Which is?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:32 pm

I know right, it's almost like I'm bad at this game.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:04 pm

Fine, Cabd, I'll hear you out when everyone gets here.

I feel like this person is scum then.
VOTE: Tywin Lannister

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:58 pm

I dunno why, but I find this to be entertaining.
/me eats popcorn

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:01 pm

In post 2355, Titus wrote:
In post 2354, Alisae wrote:I dunno why, but I find this to be entertaining.
/me eats popcorn
^^^ is not a redneck.

We need to get her beer football and hunting gear.

I AM NOT A REDNECK!
/me blushes.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:06 pm

Quickly, let's tell some jokes! Anyone got any good ones?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:12 pm

In post 2366, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2125, Alisae wrote:For reasoning behind the uzi shot, I was mostly swayed but what a lot of people were saying while Was re-looking over.
Also got the feeling he was trying to whiteknight me.
Why did you claim vig on d1?

It was a CC towards Syryanna who said they were gonna vig me apparently.
So figured counter claim

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:17 pm

Why are you implying that I thought they were scum?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:26 pm

In post 2371, Nero Cain wrote:If you didn't I'm not sure why you'd CC. Like I know that you are arguing that there could be two vigs (I don't even think Sry claim was legit anyways) but if that's what you believed at the time then why CC? And if thats not what you believed at the time why wouldn't you think she is scum?

I CC'd cause for some reason I believed the claim and I figured I might as well claim before the event where I got shot.
I didn't think she was scum because my strong townread on them still sorta lingers, so I believed it.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:35 pm

Nero anything else?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:40 pm

In post 2378, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2375, Alisae wrote:Nero anything else?
that's it for now I guess. I might have some more questions later so don't go all lurky on me.

I don't really plan on it.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:41 pm

Nero, what are your top two scumreads at the moment.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:51 pm

In post 2373, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2264, Elbirn wrote:This is coming from the guy who tried to push titus as sk a few posts ago, pls stop shade throwing conftown tia
She's not. Cabd and Titus could be scum together, she could be a mafia doc. She could be a sk. Why ignore those possibilities?

Explain to me how Cabd could possibly be scum?

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:59 pm

So am I the only one that really thinks that Tywin could be potential scum for jumping on Sonia WAAAAAAAY too quickly for that NK, or am I just fuckin crazy.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:12 pm

In post 2390, Titus wrote:
In post 2388, Alisae wrote:So am I the only one that really thinks that Tywin could be potential scum for jumping on Sonia WAAAAAAAY too quickly for that NK, or am I just fuckin crazy.
It's possible, but I am trying to reset my Tywin read.

But then I just noticed that Tywin didn't vote Sonia. So this sorta makes me think "What the fuck was he trying to accomplish?"
And the way he hopped on the Kyouko wagon to me seemed sorta oppertunistic.
He doesn't even talk about Kyouko or anything, he just hops on as if he's sheeping it.

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:29 pm

In post 2394, Titus wrote:Can we punt on that?

Is this towards me, cuz if so I don't really know what you're trying to convey to me ;~;

Alisae · Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:37 pm

I do to, so thus, I will wait.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:07 am

btw Kyouko you missed a scum claim that just about everyone overlooked including me at the time.

In post 1710, CloudKicker wrote:AHAHAHA look at that signature

In post 1711, CloudKicker wrote:its even funnier cause i was mefia

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:26 am

Oh yay a Tywin push -_-

In post 2418, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Then we have Alisae NK Uzi for no reason. She killed our cop.
What did his flip tell us? Anything? If not, then why TF was Uzi chosen over original intended targets like nos? Nos' wagon was derailed fast. Scum didn't want it to happen IMO. Alisae was told not to shoot him by Syryana as well. She followed his prodding like a sheep. It got our cop killed. This is ignoring that a vigi shooting N1 is almost always a terrible decision. She's new so I ignore that, but for future reference: vigi's STOP shooting N1 unless it's an obvious scum kill. You'll almost always hit town, and since we HAD a cop, we lose at least one confirmed investigation. Alisae, you did scum's work for them. Why shoot Uzi? You said nos was your target originally. Why change? Why not shoot me? My flip would've given more info and not had wasted another town mislynch. Did you think about it before shooting Uzi? Or did you just listen to whatever Syryana told you with his vigi claim (which you didn't question at all???).

Is the bolded part supposed to be Appeal to Emotion or some shit? Either way, there was no way for me to know that he was cop.

Here's why I shoot Uzi:

In post 2125, Alisae wrote:For reasoning behind the uzi shot, I was mostly swayed but what a lot of people were saying while Was re-looking over.
Also got the feeling he was trying to whiteknight me.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:29 am

In post 2427, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2279, Alisae wrote:
In post 2278, mozamis wrote:
In post 2243, Elbirn wrote:In post 1842, CloudKicker wrote:
Titus is town, tywin is town, aj looks town, sonia is gut town with pro reads that are just like mine. Sbm might be playing a great scumgame btw, elbirn looks town enough, gamma with the mason comment looks ridiculously town
So Titus, tywin and Aj scum?
I can totally buy that.
Apart from the massive tywin and titus spat. Epic performance if so. I know Titus is capable of that sort of game. Anyone know Tywin's game? Is he good enough to pull of that kind of stuff?
Yep. He is definitely good enough to pull that shit off.

Read this game for an example:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69290
We spent the whole game scumreading each other. We were both townies.

In post 2282, Alisae wrote:Elbrin, if Tywin is town. Describe his push on Sonia earlier. Because that feels forced to me.
How does it 'feel' forced. Do you even know what that means?
You're saying useless crap
in a shade throwing attempt, while not actually staying WHY you think it's forced. This is scummy. Don't do it unless you can give reasons. I take it that you're scum reading me after seeing posts like the above consistently from you. Am I correct?

Here's my question to you: you claim vig yet didn't question Syryana on his claim ever. Why? When Titus even points out how extremely unlikely it is to ever have two vig's in the same game (plus there weren't 3 NKs), you STILL don't question Syryana. Why? This is wrong and completely scummy. You counter claimed and don't push the original claimant at all? Not even a single pushback? Again... Why?

It feels forced because you immediately jump on Sonia about the NK. The timing is sudden and feels forced to me.

I am scumreading you, where do you think my vote is currently.
Also the bolded to me looks as if you're discrediting me. Some scummy person had to do it eventually

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:30 am

In post 2429, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2300, Alisae wrote:If Tywin flips scum, Sonia is town to me.

The reason why I said it felt forced was that he immediately jumped on Sonia about the NK.
I bought it at the time, but I took more time to think about it before I came to the conclusion that it felt forced.
Not to mention Tywin continued to push Sonia when Sonia wasn't responding well to the pressure.
So I could see why you think I'm all over the place with that.
Another push on me from Alisae. Not surprising, but her wanting me lynched over Syryana is disconcerning. She should be pushing hard against the counter claim, yet she ignores him completely in favor of me. Why?

Idunno, maybe because he hasn't shown up yet?

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:32 am

In post 2432, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Okay so Alisae is confirmed SK. If she was vigi, she'd push against Syryana.
She doesn't even want to touch him though, because his flip would destroy her claim. I'm ignoring her for the rest of the game as the obvious SK. It's probably not optimal to lynch her today, but she's only going to NK townies. She killed our cop obviously. Her being in the game only speeds us closer to Lylo, so if she's not the lynch today, then I hope either scum or our real vigi take her out at night. She can't remain in the game for long if town expects a chance to win.

I Can WIFOM the bolded the whole fucking day.
I want him to show up so I can touch him. Like, legit you aren't even considering the fact that he hasn't appeared yet.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:20 pm

Also Tywin, I remember you scumreading Uzi origonally. Just thought I mention this.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:22 pm

In post 2448, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 2440, Alisae wrote:
In post 2432, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Okay so Alisae is confirmed SK. If she was vigi, she'd push against Syryana.
She doesn't even want to touch him though, because his flip would destroy her claim. I'm ignoring her for the rest of the game as the obvious SK. It's probably not optimal to lynch her today, but she's only going to NK townies. She killed our cop obviously. Her being in the game only speeds us closer to Lylo, so if she's not the lynch today, then I hope either scum or our real vigi take her out at night. She can't remain in the game for long if town expects a chance to win.
I Can WIFOM the bolded the whole fucking day.
I want him to show up so I can touch him. Like, legit you aren't even considering the fact that he hasn't appeared yet.
No you can't. You can't call basic gameplay WIFOM. You aren't following win con for town vigi. Simple. You're SK.

You're acting like the bolded can't be done by SK.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:46 pm

I won't do anything stupid Pine.
Tho should I keep my potential targets to myself or share them?

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:50 pm

In post 2493, Pine wrote:
In post 2490, Alisae wrote:I won't do anything stupid Pine.
Tho should I keep my potential targets to myself or share them?
Keep them to yourself. If scum have a roleblocker, they'll let you shoot if you're aiming for Town until you're aiming for scum, then roleblock you.

In post 2492, Titus wrote:
In post 2490, Alisae wrote:I won't do anything stupid Pine.
Tho should I keep my potential targets to myself or share them?
Share imo.

...
...
...
Ok.

Should I share who I will never ever ever shoot? That seems to be even ground here.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:00 pm

I like what Elbrin said. I think Elbrin is a cool person.
And I'll do that.
I also won't give reads.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:05 pm

OKAY

*SHOOTS ELBRIN IN THE FACE*

I did gud, right?

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:05 pm

In post 2501, Pine wrote:
In post 2496, Titus wrote:I still think sharing is a good idea but always include multiple names, including viable players you may not shoot. It will get reactions we can use. Even if scum block you, that too is a reaction.
This is a much better idea than either of the other options. I approve. Alisae, do this please.

This slightly confused me. So include people twice? Wat?

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:06 pm

In post 2502, Pine wrote:Alisae, also shoot anyone who tries to control your shot (Titus above is kidding). Directing the vig/SK is classic scum.

Wait a minute...

In post 2083, Syryana wrote:Sigh.

I'd shoot Uzi before I shot Nos or ssbm fwiw.

Scum confirmed?

With that said, I wanna talk to this nerd, so I'ma wait.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:07 pm

In post 2504, Alisae wrote:
In post 2501, Pine wrote:
In post 2496, Titus wrote:I still think sharing is a good idea but always include multiple names, including viable players you may not shoot. It will get reactions we can use. Even if scum block you, that too is a reaction.
This is a much better idea than either of the other options. I approve. Alisae, do this please.
This slightly confused me. So include people twice? Wat?

Oh, nvm. I'm a dumbass.

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:17 pm

So like this right?

Dear Santa. I want to vig the following people:
Kyouko
Tywin
Syr
Sonia
Nos
Nero
The Mod
Santa

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:38 pm

PS. Please add the following people onto that list as well.
Titus
My parents
All of my friends
Annie Wilkes
Flowey

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:42 pm

Okay!
I never actually sent the last letter. Let's try this again.

Dear Santa, I would like to vig the following People.
Tywin
Kyouko
Sonia

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:05 pm

@mod I think my current vote is on Tywin not Kyouko. You have me on there twice ;~;

Alisae · Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:55 pm

Pine how do you feel about Tywin saying "Alisae killed our cop" but him also SR Uzi towards the end of day 1?
Call that seems wierd and akward to me

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:27 am

I'm not odd or even night.

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:58 am

In post 2532, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:@Alisae - Are there any restrictions on when you can kill besides during the night phase?

I can only kill during the night phase and I can kill whoever the fuck I want whoever the fuck I want. Besides obv towns. Shooting them would be retarded.

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:04 am

Titus can you quickly explain to me why Moz?

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:06 am

In post 2540, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:@Alisae, will you consider shooting Tywin tonight? (Don't want your shot locked in there b/c it helps scum to know where you're shooting) If so I'll unvote for now

My letter to Santa states 3 people I want to vig.
Tywin
Kyouko
Sonia.

Does this answer your question?

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:08 am

If Tywin was this frustrated, I feel like he would have wanted to be replace by now. I have 1 game with him to back this up.

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:11 am

No I expected Syr to shoot me.

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:22 am

I rather shoot all of them mafias over townies. Hence why I shot someone who most people from what I remember thought as scum (Uzi)

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:32 am

And what I meant by "I'll shoot whoever the fuck I want as long as they aren't obv town" is I'll be shooting any 1 of the 3 people on my vig list.

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:44 am

Kyouko, you want more crumbs, evertime I said "Mew" was a crumb because it ryhmes with "Pew"
Also my stance on the Tywin v Titus fight. To me it really didn't matter how that fight ended up because if one of them was lynched, say Tywin was town at that point I would have felt motivated to shoot Titus.
If Titus fliped town, I would have shot Tywin.
Also this:

In post 1199, Alisae wrote:Actually Tywin, I think I calmed down a bit. Remember when you asked me what I'd do if Titus was lynched today on D2? Ez, it's not that simple.

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:34 pm

Kyouko and Nos reads?

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:30 pm

Kyouko, I'm sorta seeing a contradiction here.
How can Tywin be scum but not be in your scumpool?

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:48 pm

But I wanted to shoot you tonight and use Tywin as todays lynch ;~;
Fine, I guess you have a good point ;~;
My letter to Santa is still the same tho.
Also like my Avi?

Alisae · Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:19 pm

The other being? I think I may or may have not have missed it in your post ;~;

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:47 am

Also I don't see why town would want to devalue someone's words.

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:42 am

Gamma howso?

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:14 pm

In post 2606, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'd like to state there's no way a vig shoots CK: we've got an SK on our hands.

I actually find you saying this a bit interesting. Say an SK did kill CK. The fact that I killed Uzi hasn't changed. But do you think that I could either be lieing about the fact I shot Uzi (which isn't the case) or do you think that scum did a no kill gambit?

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:56 pm

Nero. Chill man. Don't get angry. It's gonna be alright.

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:13 pm

In post 2643, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 2544, Alisae wrote:No I expected Syr to shoot me.
what the fuck? Aren't YOU the vig? Why would Syr shoot the actual vig?

I am the vig.
But I thought he cud be vig to.
Idunno, maybe he no believe claim so he go pew pew and me ded?
That is if there is 2 vigs.
Maybe it's at the time I really did not understand his humor.

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:31 pm

Idunno if it was and quite frankly I don't think my experience matters.

Alisae · Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:51 pm

EWWWWWW ToS

I only have 1 completed game under my belt on site while playing a bunch of others.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:36 am

Why are we lynching Moz again? Like I feel as if I'm uninformed as to whats going on.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:09 am

OOH Okay...I think I understand now.

@MOD can we get a VC

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:20 am

In post 2685, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2510, Alisae wrote:PS. Please add the following people onto that list as well.
Titus
My parents
All of my friends
Annie Wilkes
Flowey
so you know Undertale

Yeah. Hate all the characters in it so far but Flowey

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:34 am

In post 2701, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2700, Alisae wrote:
In post 2685, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2510, Alisae wrote:PS. Please add the following people onto that list as well.
Titus
My parents
All of my friends
Annie Wilkes
Flowey
so you know Undertale
Yeah. Hate all the characters in it so far but Flowey
die...

The only character I liked from Danganropa 2 was Nagito. And Chiaki, she was cool too.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:37 am

In post 2702, Alisae wrote:
In post 2701, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2700, Alisae wrote:
In post 2685, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2510, Alisae wrote:PS. Please add the following people onto that list as well.
Titus
My parents
All of my friends
Annie Wilkes
Flowey
so you know Undertale
Yeah. Hate all the characters in it so far but Flowey
die...
The only character I liked from Danganropa 2 was Nagito. And Chiaki, she was cool too.

Oh yeah don't forget Mikan. She was also cool.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:03 am

In post 2708, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 2649, Alisae wrote:Idunno if it was and quite frankly I don't think my experience matters.
less experience and more why the fuck you thought it was possible to have two vigs

At the moment I also could have panicked. But I really thought I answered this question already.
I really don't want to get into setup spec. If the protection roles do exist, like for example scum having a doctor, then I don't see a problem with 2 vigs. Maybe a vig or an SK, but I really would like to talk to syr before hastly shooting him.

In post 2645, Alisae wrote:
In post 2643, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 2544, Alisae wrote:No I expected Syr to shoot me.
what the fuck? Aren't YOU the vig? Why would Syr shoot the actual vig?
I am the vig.
But I thought he cud be vig to.
Idunno, maybe he no believe claim so he go pew pew and me ded?
That is if there is 2 vigs.
Maybe it's at the time I really did not understand his humor.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:14 am

Fine. I panicked and I claimed Vig because I thought it was real that 2 vigs were in a game. Why? I had no idea, but I figured it would have been better to claim in the event that 2 vigs were in the game and that I was gonna get shot.
I thought about it as a possibility because I panicked.
I don't have a reason besides panicking and beliving it right away.
and I rather talk to Syr instead of going with the mentality of "Shoot first, ask questions later."
Because it seems like Syr is town to me.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:17 am

BTW I feel like scum would want to push me as a possible SK instead of a vig. Is this instinct wrong?

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:25 am

Otherwise it really doesn't make sense to me why they let me live unless scum believed the claim as well.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:59 am

What, I thought the question was why did I think there was 2 vigs? Is this not the question?

If it is, then I panicked and thought there was 2 vigs for some reason I don't fucking know anymore.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:11 pm

OOOOOOOH Okay...

Played Maf IRL when I was a kid.
Play ToS a couple years ago (like at least 1 or two or something).
Started playing my first game on here.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:11 pm

here as in the site.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:17 pm

OOOOOOOOH okay...Sorry Cabd, I thought you were pressuring me about the SK thing.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:18 pm

In post 2728, Alisae wrote:OOOOOOOOH okay...Sorry Cabd, I thought you were pressuring me about the
2 vig
thing.

Edit

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:41 pm

And a few games on other sites before here, which sorta reminded me of the gist of how this game is played and how things like ToS and IRL are different.
The other forum game setups were mostly Cop, Doc, Random PRs, VTs, and for scum GF, a goon, and a random maf PR.

But yeah, I first learned of the game IRL which mostly had setups that was VTs and Scum and maybe a doc or a cop.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:42 pm

oh yeah that forum loved having neutrals such as an SK, arson, survivor, that stuff. 2 neutrals in most of their set ups.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:51 pm

Besides that. That is all the experience I had before my newbie on here.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:26 pm

Gamma in that case should I include Nos on my list to Santa. Because he's trying to push me as the SK even tho I'm a vig.
VOTE: Mozamis

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:26 pm

Dear Santa, I want to vig the following people:
Sonia
Tywin
Nos

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:38 pm

Cabd I am okay with this.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:40 pm

I no get reference ;~;

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:43 pm

That is my fate then. I am okay with this as long as we get mafia first.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:50 pm

Wait, Cabd if you're saying I'm cute and/or adorable then I'll gladly take that compliment, but it's not that intentional. That's just me being me I guess.

Alisae · Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:04 pm

I claimed Vig and I thought it was agreed on with Pine and Titus that I'm shooting who I want and to know that my decisions will be judged and if I start shooting obv town I'm getting rewarded with rope.