Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

[Titus]

You should shoot Elbrin in the face.

[Pine]

I still think sharing is a good idea but always include multiple names, including viable players you may not shoot. It will get reactions we can use. Even if scum block you, that too is a reaction.

This is a much better idea than either of the other options. I approve. Alisae, do this please.

[Pine]

Alisae, also shoot anyone who tries to control your shot (Titus above is kidding). Directing the vig/SK is classic scum.

[Alisae]

OKAY

*SHOOTS ELBRIN IN THE FACE*

I did gud, right?

[Alisae]

I still think sharing is a good idea but always include multiple names, including viable players you may not shoot. It will get reactions we can use. Even if scum block you, that too is a reaction.

This is a much better idea than either of the other options. I approve. Alisae, do this please.

This slightly confused me. So include people twice? Wat?

[Alisae]

Alisae, also shoot anyone who tries to control your shot (Titus above is kidding). Directing the vig/SK is classic scum.

Wait a minute...

Sigh.

I'd shoot Uzi before I shot Nos or ssbm fwiw.

Scum confirmed?

With that said, I wanna talk to this nerd, so I'ma wait.

[Alisae]

I still think sharing is a good idea but always include multiple names, including viable players you may not shoot. It will get reactions we can use. Even if scum block you, that too is a reaction.

This is a much better idea than either of the other options. I approve. Alisae, do this please.

This slightly confused me. So include people twice? Wat?

Oh, nvm. I'm a dumbass.

[Alisae]

So like this right?

Dear Santa. I want to vig the following people:
Kyouko
Tywin
Syr
Sonia
Nos
Nero
The Mod
Santa

[Aj The Epic]

I mean with a list that long, you'll be an ACTUAL serial killer.

Which gives me a neat idea for a role, a vig who turns into an SK after 3 shots.

[Cephrir]

Votecount 2.3

Tywin Lannister 3 (xSoniaNevermindx, Pine, Alisae)
ssbm_Kyouko 2 (Aj The Epic, Tywin Lannister)
mozamis 1 (Titus)
Nero Cain 1 (mozamis)
Nosferatu 1 (Elbirn)

Not Voting 6 (others)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

[Alisae]

PS. Please add the following people onto that list as well.
Titus
My parents
All of my friends
Annie Wilkes
Flowey

[Titus]

Alisae, also shoot anyone who tries to control your shot (Titus above is kidding). Directing the vig/SK is classic scum.

I always suggest actions to any outed PR and invite them.

Of course, I am a control freak.

[Pine]

So like this right?

Dear Santa. I want to vig the following people:
Kyouko
Tywin
Syr
Sonia
Nos
Nero
The Mod
Santa

With a list that long, we can't reasonably get real reactions. Three names would probably be most efficient. If scum appear on a short list, they'll be nervous. On a list that long, they won't be as worried.

PEdit: Maybe, Titus, but directing the Vig is a special thing. Suggesting Doc protect ObvTown Bob or whatever is one thing, controlling Vig is another.

[Titus]

So like this right?

Dear Santa. I want to vig the following people:
Kyouko
Tywin
Syr
Sonia
Nos
Nero
The Mod
Santa

With a list that long, we can't reasonably get real reactions. Three names would probably be most efficient. If scum appear on a short list, they'll be nervous. On a list that long, they won't be as worried.

PEdit: Maybe, Titus, but directing the Vig is a special thing. Suggesting Doc protect ObvTown Bob or whatever is one thing, controlling Vig is another.

I hate that site meta just a little less than intent to hammer.

[Alisae]

Okay!
I never actually sent the last letter. Let's try this again.

Dear Santa, I would like to vig the following People.
Tywin
Kyouko
Sonia

[Aj The Epic]

The only real answer is buckshot.

When are we planning on really getting back to wagoning people again?

[Titus]

Why your wagon?

[Alisae]

@mod I think my current vote is on Tywin not Kyouko. You have me on there twice ;~;

[Aj The Epic]

I've had Kyouko pinned as scum since yesterday. I don't see this town motivation everyone else is talking about from that slot, it all looks calculated at best.

[Pine]

I've had Kyouko pinned as scum since yesterday. I don't see this town motivation everyone else is talking about from that slot, it all looks calculated at best.

Show your work, please?

[Pine]

I've had Kyouko pinned as scum since yesterday. I don't see this town motivation everyone else is talking about from that slot, it all looks calculated at best.

Show your work, please?

Never mind. I took some of my own advice (from elsewhere) and CTRL+F'd your ISO. The later part of your case on Kyouko has some laudable consistency to it, but your initial scumread on him comes out of nowhere, and then sticks around until it finds a reason.

Better question: Convince me that this isn't just confbias.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I've had Kyouko pinned as scum since yesterday. I don't see this town motivation everyone else is talking about from that slot, it all looks calculated at best.

I don't think "everyone else" (whoever that means) is even saying I have town motivation. I do, of course, but I don't think anyone has really been rushing to my defense (especially D1) except Pine now. Even Titus was on me earlier I think and I feel like she was one of the few to TR me D1. What about my play looks calculated to you?

[Pine]

Let's be clear, guy, I am not defending you. I don't have a Townread on you. I just don't have a scumread on you, and don't grok the cases of the people voting you. There's a world of difference between them.

If a good case appears, I'm entirely fine adding you to the scumpile. It's super easy in a game where this many Townreads, as the ratio of scum to Town in my nullpile is a lot higher than normal. The simple fact that a lot of people are SRing you, even if they don't really know why, isn't sunshine and daisies for you. Persons are smart, people as a whole are stupid, but small groups can sometimes have good instincts.

Essentially the same speech could be given for Nosferatu. Can someone give me a case on him that doesn't use the word "lurk" or any conjugation thereof?

[Alisae]

Pine how do you feel about Tywin saying "Alisae killed our cop" but him also SR Uzi towards the end of day 1?
Call that seems wierd and akward to me

[Pine]

Shrug. He's trying to capitalize on the outcome of your shot, not the intent. Intent is what matters when analyzing a Vig's shots.