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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:44 pm

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In post 73, TierShift wrote:What do you feel is fluff about hiraki's post?
I'll step in an give my 2 cents cuz I'd like to.

Personally, he spends half of his post attacking an IC and then the rest of his comments on the posts he quoted are different variations of "this is bad."

No real analysis of what happened, unlike Spade who actually looked into the motivation of TT and Kain's interactions.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:29 pm

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In post 74, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I noticed Kain is very loud and his accusations are flamboyant as scum when reviewing previous games. I noticed a huge difference with him actually producing thought instead of him just saying something is scummy, hence my town read on him.
Have you played with kain before? How many times?
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:31 pm

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In post 75, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 73, TierShift wrote:What do you feel is fluff about hiraki's post?
I'll step in an give my 2 cents cuz I'd like to.

Personally, he spends half of his post attacking an IC and then the rest of his comments on the posts he quoted are different variations of "this is bad."

No real analysis of what happened, unlike Spade who actually looked into the motivation of TT and Kain's interactions.
Please don't answer posts not directed at you. It hurts him giving a genuine first-thought answer to me as he starts incorporating your views.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:32 pm

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I clicked his profile then viewed his topics, and skimmed the games he played in/his alignment and came to that conclusion.

P-Edit: I guess my thoughts don't really need to be interpreted as scum or not huh?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:11 am

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In post 78, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I clicked his profile then viewed his topics, and skimmed the games he played in/his alignment and came to that conclusion.

P-Edit: I guess my thoughts don't really need to be interpreted as scum or not huh?
They don't, indeed. Still it's bad practice even if you're not confirmed town. I have a problem with someone else's thought process, not necessarily with yours.

Skimming games is a very very bad way of getting reliable meta on someone. People differ a lot between games even when they have the same alignment. The only way to get a feel for someone's play is by actually playing with them, not by reading their games. And you need to play a LOT with them to get anything useful.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:15 am

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In post 68, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Since when am I not allowed to agree with someone? Also what's scummy about posing a theory?
I never said it was scummy to post a theory. What I did say is that you were inconsistent in applying that theory based on the facts.
In post 68, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Also why is it that you don't want to upset the heat on a VC if there isn't enough content?
Moreso just want to check that there isn't a wagon atm. It was also around 3 AM when I posted that so I just didn't want to count votes. Now that it's not so late, I'll vote.
In post 72, Spade_Ace wrote:5. Hiraki your post seems to contain a lot of fluff as if you are trying to contribute.
It's page 3. You're going to call me out on posting fluff? If you'd like to point out which points are fluff, I'd be happy to establish why it's not fluff.
In post 73, TierShift wrote:What do you feel is fluff about hiraki's post?
Glad I wasn't the only one. If you don't mind, here's an addendum to your own question to Spade:

If my post does have fluff, what did I miss in the three pages that you think I should have commented on but did not?
In post 78, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:P-Edit: I guess my thoughts don't really need to be interpreted as scum or not huh?
Correct - no one will judge your thoughts whether or not they are scummy. Rather, we will judge them if we believe if they are correct or incorrect.

Vote: Spade
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:48 am

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Spade who is scum?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:49 am

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VOTE: karnos

This guy is lurking too much, obv scum is obv.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:50 am

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This innocent child thing is weird.

Besides playing as town like ya usually do, is there anything one should be doing with being confirmed?

P-Edit: Almost want to say that's a bluff
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:09 am

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In post 82, karnos wrote:VOTE: karnos

This guy is lurking too much, obv scum is obv.
I agree.

VOTE: Karnos

Seriously. We are out of RVS/QS and you enter by voting for yourself?
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:12 am

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purposeful hydra slip from me so I can have this game under "view your posts" on my main account.

Catching up! Hope everyone has a good holiday.

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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:23 am

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Thinker, what's your thoughts on Spades?
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:54 am

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Okay, so Kain's age explains a lot. I'm still put off by his style, but maturity does make a difference.

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
3. Think Tank (hydra of Pine and ThinkBig)
4. TierShift
5. Aelin
6. TheRealGin-N-Tonic
7. Spade_Ace
8. Hiraki

Removing ourself (a strange word I just invented to represent the 2=1 aspect of hydra'ing) and the ICs, I get this list:

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
4. TierShift
7. Spade_Ace

I get a pretty distinctly Town vibe from Hiraki. It's been a long time since I played with him, but I'm going to trust my instincts for now on him.

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
7. Spade_Ace

75% of this is scum. Removing TierShift, he's remained Townish...

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
7. Spade_Ace

Bam. Game solution.

VOTE: Kain

This is a genuine scumread now. I disagree with Gin-N-Tonic's 74. That is not the impression I've gotten. Spade_Ace also looks scummy independent of PoE, but his play is sophisticated enough to warrant more analysis. Nothing from Karnos yet.

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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:23 am

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I can understand Karnos not being active with it being the festive season, but what I do not like is the fact that instead of actually putting his input into the game he instead just makes a joke of himself with an RVS vote
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:24 am

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Eh, that seems NAI. Boxing Day is still kind of holiday V/LA, or at the very least a catchup day.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:35 am

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Stop hydraing if you cannot manage to post within it.

Did you not think kain was just an immature kid before?
I don't get why you're voting kain. Do you even have a scumread on any of those players that is not PoE?

I need a VC.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:36 am

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What about hiraki's posts give you townvibes?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:46 am

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In post 84, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 82, karnos wrote:VOTE: karnos

This guy is lurking too much, obv scum is obv.
I agree.

VOTE: Karnos

Seriously. We are out of RVS/QS and you enter by voting for yourself?
Jumping on this low-hanging fruit, interesting.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:54 pm

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In post 92, karnos wrote:
In post 84, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 82, karnos wrote:VOTE: karnos

This guy is lurking too much, obv scum is obv.
I agree.

VOTE: Karnos

Seriously. We are out of RVS/QS and you enter by voting for yourself?
Jumping on this low-hanging fruit, interesting.
ThinkBig is kind of new. This is a mentoring hydra. I've explained to him why your entry is NAI. Our official vote is on Kain.

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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:39 pm

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I was hoping for a Pagetop, but oh well.

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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:15 pm

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i think the vote still needs to be on SPADE..... i dont mind KARNOS but spades posts are not comforting to me,, it is obvious that he is just shade casting in a scattering manner of washing water,, he's more scummy than the other three

thinkbig you are not making sense,, your top scum read is karnos and you still vote me for no reason
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:51 pm

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In post 80, Hiraki wrote:
In post 72, Spade_Ace wrote:5. Hiraki your post seems to contain a lot of fluff as if you are trying to contribute.
It's page 3. You're going to call me out on posting fluff? If you'd like to point out which points are fluff, I'd be happy to establish why it's not fluff.
Okay. I will
In post 67, Hiraki wrote:
In post 14, Think Tank wrote:Ever been in a game with Kain?

If not, check out completed games (am phoneposting or would provide links)

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In post 36, Think Tank wrote:You don't have to replace out.

You just have to shape up, act like a grownup, and play the game.

Unvote


See? There's the benefit of the doubt. Policy lynch reprieved. Sink back into old habits of posting in shouts, appealing massively to emotion, and being enormously conceited, and your reprieve ends.

God, I hate beating up on kids.

Serious question, Kain, how old are you?

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Really not liking this.

I can literally take ANY POST in this thread and say am not liking it. If you are not liking it, EXPLAIN why.

In post 18, Spade_Ace wrote:@Tier cos the rest are self explanatory and I understand TT's frustration cos I have played with Kain before.
Is that why you also put an RVS vote on him? Sounds like a pretty useless vote tbh

RVS vote is supposed to be a useless vote. It is not to be taken serious. And if you are actually expecting a reason for the RVS, I have mentioned it along with the vote.

In post 32, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:VOTE: Kain

Yeah no, not doing that
In post 17, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:5v3 PL lynch
next day is;
4v3 hope to god we get it right, scum gets a kill, if not we lose
3v2 hope to god we get it right, if not we lose

Continue to push a PL and you'll get my vote
wow way to really push in that consistency super hard

Being sarcastic towards the IC doesn't help town.

In post 42, Think Tank wrote:
In post 40, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Honey, Town of Salem is the white girl trailer trash of Mafia. Let me tell you the pecking order.

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Please, let's refrain from talking about it again
LOL!!!
I don't like the amount of content coming out of you two tbh

Pine is solely talking about Kaine (which tbh isn't bad) while you keep just posting IIoA.
At least you provided some reason here. But you say you don't like the "AMOUNT" of content coming out of them. Did you mean to say quality, cos that is what your example seems to indicate.


In post 59, KainTepes wrote:TierShift and Hiraki seems to be making MOSTLY JOKE POSTS....
That was a post so that I could come back to it afterwards without looking for the thread via "View your posts". If there is a joke there, it's a pretty bad one. I agree with you on the TierShift one. Would definitely like to see more content from that slot.

Am curious. Tell me what do you agree with Kain? Are you agreeing with Kain that Tier's posts have been 'joke posts'? Maybe my sense of humour is bad. Cos am not able to find anything funny in his posts.

In post 60, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:What's the possibility that they didn't post content because you seemed to be an easy mislynch?
Huh???? Wait are you agreeing with him? I would honestly scumread you at this point if you weren't the innocent child.

Would like a bit more content from everyone before placing down a vote. Definitely too early and too much heat on the current VC for me to try and upset it atm.

Ohh yeah. Please refrain from voting cos it might upset the sacred VC :roll:. I know you later defended this by saying you didnt want to count votes. But when you had time to quote and comment on multiple votes, how difficult is it to count the very few votes written in BOLD letters.
If this doesn't look fluff, then I don't know what is.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:53 pm

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In post 87, Think Tank wrote:1. karnos
2. KainTepes
3. Think Tank (hydra of Pine and ThinkBig)
4. TierShift
5. Aelin
6. TheRealGin-N-Tonic
7. Spade_Ace
8. Hiraki


Removing ourself (a strange word I just invented to represent the 2=1 aspect of hydra'ing) and the ICs, I get this list:

1. karnos
2. KainTepes
4. TierShift
7. Spade_Ace
.....?? what happened to HIRAKI?? he is neither you or an IC......
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:55 pm

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i actually like spade's post #96,, that PLUS the "accidental" leaving out of HIRAKI from the vote list has made me reconsider my townread on thinktank,, and I will

VOTE: Hiraki
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:56 pm

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In post 91, TierShift wrote:What about hiraki's posts give you townvibes?
Pine are you planning to ignore this question?

PEDIT: Or what Kain asked.

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