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It was. Let me retry:
I'll admit that the fact that I don't have had many reads of my own is true. As I have said, I couldn't get a grip of the game back then. But "happy to help wagons along" is a factual stretch, especially taking into account the posts you quoted:The main thing that's making me suspicious is that Gio's posts seem to show a low level of investment in who gets lynched. In general, this has been a game where tensions have run high and players have been furious with each other for not lynching a player who's "obvious scum". Meanwhile, Gio's been a voice calling for calm but not really doing anything with it. The best way to solve a "lynch X or lynch Y" argument is "but shouldn't we be looking at Z, at least to help solve the situation?". It isn't really "you're arguing too much, but meh". (Incidentally, having Maxous as a strong townread is not suspicious, as he had an unclaimed Ascetic at the time.) Gio seems to have had very few reads of his own; he's mostly just been happy to help wagons along. (Actually, many of his strongest reads have been on himself, using things like self-meta arguments.) Gio seems to have been softly pushing days to end without caring much about the outcome (which is likely to lead to compromise lynches, which tend tob e on town), and to have been defending himself, and not much else. That seems like behaviour that's most likely to come from scum, to me.
The role is nerfed by the fact that if it targets someone without an active night action, then there is no way to tell if my action went through and my target is clear, or something happened and my action failed. My pool of potential clears is shrinked this way and on top of that is even-night only. Narna's role seems as powerful as mine but suffers from the same problem; It could clear someone each night but the results were shaky.(The thing that prompted me to check through Gio, though, was the claim, which seems like an unreasonable amount of town power. Obviously, it's possible that it's someone else who overclaimed, or that the roles are less useful than they seem, but Gio's role is one of the least confirmed and also one of the most specific, which means that there are nightplay reasons to think Gio is scum too.)
Who is SR?In post 9647, Almost50 wrote:Hammering ME. I'm suggesting that my lynch today could be beneficial to Town provided we decide who hammers.
First option: PV
Why? Bc he did not claim and is not mechanically clear. That way if he is scum (and more to it, if he is a killer) he will lose that ability. In fact he will lose all his abilities, but I'm precisely shooting for the killing ability.
Second option: SR
Why? because he is already confirmed Town AND Vanilla (i.e. no abilities to lose anyway). Transforming him into the Annoying Dog should make scum think twice before shooting him at night, and being confirmed he is unlynchable by day. It's good to have a confirmed Townie alive to endgame.
Allow me to reorder my response:In post 9652, callforjudgement wrote:@Almost50: Do you think there are any players, other than yourself, who deserve to be lynched? Are you self-voting out of a belief that everyone's generally town, or that there are scum but you can't identify them, or that there are scum and you know who they are but you won't be able to persuade anyone to lynch them?
As of this post the only hard town reads I have are A50 and JaeReed.In post 9662, callforjudgement wrote:@BigYoshiFan: I was rereading you (as you're only very slightly confirmed) and realised that I don't know what many of your reads are. What are they, especially on the unconfirmed players (PV and Almost50) and players with confirmed role but not alignment (Gio and SirCakez)?
Because my role is more effective if it gets transmitted to certain slots now. I only offered to hammer myself earlier because there were many willing to do it and it would have hurt the town to lose a role like yours or Narna's or Math's .. etc. If Math -for example- hammers me they lose their BP (but still won't be shot because of the new role).In post 9659, Ankamius wrote:Almost50, why are you suddenly not considering hammering yourself?
I don't scumread him I 3P him.In post 9666, BigYoshiFan wrote:Ankamius revealed his intentions in the neighborhood, right? Does anyone in the neighborhood scumread them?
Nope. Just killing me does.In post 9664, callforjudgement wrote:Does anything special happen if people target you with a non-killing role?