Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[BigYoshiFan]

This is stupid. We have a consensus that A50 is town. It's not worth lynching a (probably) townie and most likely getting another killed at night.

[BigYoshiFan]

VOTE: a50

ok i trust u i guess. sorry i've been pretty absent this day.

Just like that? Really?

[BigYoshiFan]

Shiro was lynched not killed D4. This strongly implies that Gio is telling the truth about being weak.

How?

In contrast this does not apply for Nahdia because SK's generally get some sort of investigation immunity which presents like a block (1 shot, ascetic, something...) especially in a 20+ player game.

Shiro is a good PR person. He would check. Hell he jailkept me 5 (I think) times in Mass Effect Mafia.

Not if he townread Gio, probably. They had Night 3 to target Gio but targeted... who? I have something written here but I made it quite confusing. Shiro targeted Narna N3?

[Ankamius]

You know that feeling that I've been getting about what we''re doing being a trap?

I'm getting that feeling again.

BigYoshiFan is sounding very fake today.

You said that before our only Not town lynch.

I also felt that before our single most retarded lynch all game, Leonshade.

[BigYoshiFan]

Posting it outside the hood murders one of the reaction tests.

Spoiler:

Assume SirCakez is scum with Maxous preflip. Then SirCakez gave bodyguard to CFJ and hit a VT with one item and again with a second but was roleblocked by Maxous. I forget who he hit N3 I am not in front of my notes but why would scum block themselves. That makes no sense. So if SirCakez is scum it is either SK or post Maxous. Pre Maxous is insane.

Assume Gio is scum with Maxous preflip. Then he hits Maxous and confirms him as ascetic D2 because ? Maxous lies because ? There is no reason for Maxous to make a lie except when Nahdia claimed N4. Before that point there were no obvious contradictions. If Maxous was scum with Maxous why confirm the psychologist who would be an easy mislynch when Maxous was claimed ascetic.

Furthermore assume I am scum with Maxous preflip. People were fucking confused and didn't have any idea what was going on. I would have 0 reason not to push Narna. Instead I broke down everywhere Maxous lied. Furthermore Creature was obviously BP hunting for another BP because he would clearly know that person isn't Town because two Town BP in a setup like this is bullshit.

Therefore in that world we would be hunting one person to lynch the entire fucking game which makes me even more confirmed town. So gist is we need JaeReed alive and to make it to end game I do not trust Nahdia can actually Jailkeep and therefore we need JaeReed immune to kills.

There are many things that baffle me about this post. I'm in need of sleep, but I need more clarification. Under what assumptions are you basing these off of?
You are assuming that there was a scumteam pre-Maxous flip. You are assuming that Maxous had allies that both he and his allies were aware of. Those are the main assumptions I am concerned about, the ones regarding this game's scumteam(s).

I would appreciate some clarification on your view of what you think was the meaning of Maxous' "new faction" and how it affected the game's setup.

Also, another assumption you've made:
- The scumteam that existed before Maxous' lynch did not have the ability to kill. (I think I've heard you mention this before, also you can't say SirCakez could be a SK and acknowledge that only one kill has occurred each night if the scumteam had the ability to kill.)

Also, I don't recall how Maxous lied regarding anything with Gio. Could you remind me, and how Nahdia's N4 claim is relevant?

Lastly, a response to this:
"If Maxous was scum with Maxous why confirm the psychologist who would be an easy mislynch when Maxous was claimed ascetic."

I assume you mean Gio instead of the first time you mention "Maxous." It could be for towncred and/or that Narna's role was weaker than it appeared or misleading and the scumteam knew it. It could be for towncred when they kill Narna the next day when everyone witnesses Narna's flip, but Narna survived N5 because of me.

Awaiting responses for these questions/comments, especially the first.

[Ankamius]

But go ahead, keep using Maxous not directly being part of town despite the fact that we still don't actually know whether lynching him actually helped us at all or not.

[BigYoshiFan]

But go ahead, keep using Maxous not directly being part of town despite the fact that we still don't actually know whether lynching him actually helped us at all or not.

Good point.

[MathBlade]

Shiro was lynched not killed D4. This strongly implies that Gio is telling the truth about being weak.

How?

In contrast this does not apply for Nahdia because SK's generally get some sort of investigation immunity which presents like a block (1 shot, ascetic, something...) especially in a 20+ player game.

Shiro is a good PR person. He would check. Hell he jailkept me 5 (I think) times in Mass Effect Mafia.

Not if he townread Gio, probably. They had Night 3 to target Gio but targeted... who? I have something written here but I made it quite confusing. Shiro targeted Narna N3?

How? -- Asked and answered.
Rolecop is used irrelevant of reads if someone claimed. If Shiro had lived he would have been a threat.

[Skullduggery]

Day 7, Vote Count #8

Current Vote Count:

(3)

SirCakez -- callforjudgement, JaeReed, BigYoshiFan

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(0)

MathBlade

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Nahdia

(0)

callforjudgement

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

BigYoshiFan

(5)

Almost50 -- Almost50, PeregrineV, MathBlade, SirCakez, Nahdia

(0)

JaeReed

Not Voting:

Giovanni il Pellegrino, Ankamius

With 10 votes available, it takes 6 votes to hammer.

MathBlade is V/LA until 1/2.

Day 7 Will End on Wednesday, January 11th, at 7 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2017-01-11 19:00:00)

[Ankamius]

This is me being here and not hammering, in case anyone was paranoid.

[BigYoshiFan]

Hammer didn't count. I rest my case.

[JaeReed]

If this is a 4 man scum team we lose if I hammer almost.

[BigYoshiFan]

Shiro was lynched not killed D4. This strongly implies that Gio is telling the truth about being weak.

How?

In contrast this does not apply for Nahdia because SK's generally get some sort of investigation immunity which presents like a block (1 shot, ascetic, something...) especially in a 20+ player game.

Shiro is a good PR person. He would check. Hell he jailkept me 5 (I think) times in Mass Effect Mafia.

Not if he townread Gio, probably. They had Night 3 to target Gio but targeted... who? I have something written here but I made it quite confusing. Shiro targeted Narna N3?

How? -- Asked and answered.
Rolecop is used irrelevant of reads if someone claimed. If Shiro had lived he would have been a threat.

Shiro didn't check Gio, given the opportunity N3. Shiro checked SirCakez even though they didn't claim by N2. Shiro (possibly) checked Narna N3, did Narna claim before then?

[BigYoshiFan]

DON'T HAMMER. FFS DO NOT HAMMER.

[JaeReed]

DON'T HAMMER. FFS DO NOT HAMMER.

Kind of exactly what is going through my head rn

[BigYoshiFan]

Look at all the people on this wagon. Look at the lack of opposition for this wagon. It can't be this easy to lynch A50 if he was scum.

[SirCakez]

If there is a 4-person scumteam then everyone not on the A50 wagon (besides Yoshi) would be conftown I think?
Nahdia's lack of presence in game is starting to bother me.

P-edit: Lack of opposition? Then what the heck is the wagon on me?

[Nahdia]

your face is starting to bother me

[SirCakez]

*is offended*

[BigYoshiFan]

If there is a 4-person scumteam then everyone not on the A50 wagon (besides Yoshi) would be conftown I think?
Nahdia's lack of presence in game is starting to bother me.

P-edit: Lack of opposition? Then what the heck is the wagon on me?

How did you come to that conclusion?

[SirCakez]

Which one?

[callforjudgement]

DON'T HAMMER. FFS DO NOT HAMMER.

Thirded.

I wouldn't say there's a lack of opposition to the A50 wagon. There totally is, and much of it's coming from me.

On the other hand, I

would

say that the opposition is mostly coming from town (not totally convinced on BYF – although I'm leaning town there – but I know I'm town, and in order for JaeReed to be scum then there'd have to be so many scum that town has probably lost already). No opposition to a wagon means that it's on town. Opposition primarily from townies is an even stronger indicator it's on town.

Would the people on the A50 wagon

please

unvote? @

PeregrineV

: please unvote. @

Nahdia

: please unvote. @

Almost50

: please unvote. We badly need to catch scum today, and can't waste our few remaining lynches on townies.

[BigYoshiFan]

Which one?

All of them.

[callforjudgement]

Actually, even more so: @

SirCakez

: Please unvote. If the opinions you've stated in the thread are correct, you're not very invested in the A50 lynch. So why are you still on the wagon? #9851 is the only post I spotted in a quick scan of your ISO where you've expressed a scumread on that slot, and it was a relational tell via me. In such a circumstance, you should be voting for me instead.

[MathBlade]

Omg. Wtf a 4 person scum team + 2/3 from a Maxous is impossible. I am conf town and JaeReed is conf town.

That is impossible because 10-3 is 7. That makes JaeReed Almost50 and I the only Town which in that case ensuring JaeReed lives becomes even more important.

Gotta go again adulting still.