Large Normal 200 - Big Round Numbers - Game Over

[Ircher]

LOL!!!! I REMEMBER NOW!!!! THE WORD IM LOOKING FOR WAS 'NORMAL' ALL ALONG!!! SILLY ME!!! LOL!!!!!!

grey is added to lynchpool

Rb can die now.

[Creature]

Hi Gamma Emerald

[Ircher]

The best part of this wagon is that no one is giving me anything so I can't defend myself.

Guess what...?

VOTE: Alisae

Bad wagon. Choose an actual scum. Not a maybe scum, maybe lynchbait townie.

[Human Sequencer]

Gamma hasn't posted?
Scum PT slip?

[Creature]

I saw him in the playerlist.

[Ircher]

The problem is that your reads on Dunn and Ircher don't make me think that's the case. Mostly Ircher.

For giving Ircher a gut read, and Dunn a scumread, who needs more time and legit has no content.

I think he does not have enough content to provide a decent read, ergo scum.

Logic leap

Scummy Behavior != Scum.

Logical leaps are not necessarily made by scum or even scum-motivated. (Bit hypocritical of me concerning my earlier reaction to Debi's numbers, but everyone has their biased moments)

[Creature]

If players think weird behavior = scummy behavior, then indeed scummy behavior =/= scum.

[Ircher]

Final reads before I go take a shower, go to sleep, and then wake up to find out that I got lynched.

Town: rb, Grey, Uzi, Gin, Pine, Echo, Debi, Zach
Scum: Kyouko, Creature, Wraith, Dunn, and maybe Ircher
Null: Everyone else.

You are too easily manipulated.

[Ircher]

{Alisae, Wraith, rb, Creature}

I'm happy voting anywhere in there.

Alisae and to a lesser extent Creature are very bad D1 lynches, esp. in a Large. I'm fine w/ the other two though.

[-Grey-]

Debi, there aren't many non-town there. Also, the only possible factions are town, mafia/werewolves and SK.

And aliens.
And cults
And tons of other third-party factions

Not in a normal.

Yeah, I don't know that much about normals, and the only other large I've joined isn't one so I oopsed there.

[Ircher]

A man posting spiderman memes is so obv town we don't even need to question his motives.

can we please lynch gin and not alisae

Okay, rb, real talk. Tell me why Gin is scum. You keep talking about your murder priapism for him, but haven't said why yet, which is frustrating because I have a pretty strong TR on him.

I'm 100% okay with an Alisae lynch, even if it's a pretty quick one. I'm recently kind of coming around to the notion that long days, especially D1s, are completely counterproductive, so a lynch of Aliscum with some policy motive peppered in suits me just fine.

i doubt debi is scum unless rly good, but that kind of play is really hard to replicate as scum for an entire game so we'll see

Actually, I was thinking about this while playing Heroes of the Storm. Given offsite origin, I'm wondering whether all that wallposting and badmath is what passes for good scum smokescreening over there. Bad, pretty baseless reads covered by gaudy, overtly showy attempts to show "LOOK AT ME GAMESOLVING" suggests scum in context. Trying too hard.

VOTE: RB

No. Bad Gin. Stop it.

Going to bed. I look forward to spending ALL DAMN MORNING catching up to you spammy fuckers.

PEdit: OH LOOK. There were SEVEN posts while writing this. How unsurprising.

This reads as scum -- PLing what is likely lynchbait AND an associative tell with Rb whom I'm pretty sure is scum.

The Alisae would be okay if it weren't for the fact Pine is trying to conduct a QL on Alisae.

[Human Sequencer]

I could get behind an RB lynch, if Grey's logic is sound. RB would usually be bleeding town at this point, and I don't see that atm.

[Ircher]

More appeasement.

Pro tip: Next time you want to be mistaken for Town, stick to your guns a little more.

Perhaps, but I'm still reading it as more likely to be lynchbait-type appeasement, not scum-appeasement.

[Creature]

I'm gonna go gonna wait.

[-Grey-]

Before I do, do you think me not having a read on you at the moment is alignment indicative?

I'll answer you after you give me a read.

Don't worry, it'll make sense. I just don't want my answer to influence the read I asked for.

No. There's simply too much going on to have a handle on everybody and be able to drop reads on command.

If you had regurgitated a read after stating you didn't have one on me, I'd have found it scummy.

[Ircher]

Okay i want everyone to stop focussing on alisae right now because if she's scum she's dead. Parse the other slots too, anyone who just uselessly tunnels on alisae rn is getting the murdercock tomorrow

???
Didn't you scumread Alisae earlier? (I didn't check btw, just double-checking here)

[Ircher]

what the fuck 20 pages
this is what happens when i go to sleep as soon as the game opens and go to work as soon as i wake up
prepare for one million walls

beetlejuice

Is a horrible scumtell.

[-Grey-]

Don't understand the RB push at all, unless Grey buys into the idea that this is either a 19p game with 3 scum (lol) or a multiball game.
I think the latter is likely what Grey expects, and this is why I asked him to explain the push on rb, because it changes my read on his push from "????" to "Ah, ok, kinda townie". Grey isn't an idiot, and he probably has fine reasons for scumreading RB.

The reason I find rb looking for three scum as a potential slip is because it makes complete sense if it's multiball and he's focused on hunting the other team.

If he was town, I don't see why his first impression would be that there is only three scum for him to find in a large game. It doesn't make sense.

[Human Sequencer]

Slips are rarely damning though. I'd much rather confirm multiball before running down RB for that.

Any other reasons why you think multiball is valid, or alternatively why you scumread RB?

[Ircher]

For anyone

What do you think about Human Sequencer?

Town who thinks they know everything when they really dont

[-Grey-]

Slips are rarely damning though. I'd much rather confirm multiball before running down RB for that.

Any other reasons why you think multiball is valid, or alternatively why you scumread RB?

The reason I think it's multiball is because there's a lot of speculation about it being multiball before a night phase that actually suggests it's multiball.

Clear as mud?

[Pine]

Well, not to play devil's advocate, but multiball would hardly be surprising. It's pretty common with larger games. I'd been speculating (to myself) about it too, but there's no evidence either way.

Four and a half pages overnight. That's not too bad. Can't respond to everything right now, will later

[Human Sequencer]

@Grey Yeah, I thought as much. I'm just a little wary that you buy into it so easily.
It being multiball heavily incriminates Ircher, Creature, Wraith and kinda incriminates you and RB.

In fact if it's multiball, Creature and Wraith become even slam-dunkier lynches than they were before.

@Ircher <3

[Ircher]

Don't come with stuff like "pro-town" "anti-town" "helpful" "like you're playing right now"

rb - idk
Alisae - scummy af
ssbm_Kyouko - townlean, post moar
TheRealGin-N-Tonic - idk
Lil Uzi Vert - town
Gamma Emerald - post moar, likely flake slot tbh
Zachstralkita - literally nothing
Creature - scummy
drealmerz7 - lol
Ircher - towny
Pine - towny kinda
Human Sequencer - lol
-Grey- - idk
Wraith - scummy af
SlickDilinger - great post my dude
Debi - town af
EchoVision - scummy
Dunnstral - idk can't ever read dunn fuck you
All Alone - lol

Feel free to ask my reasoning on any of these, if I miss it, ask again.

Point one scumread here that doesn't fit the category of "lynchbait"

Lynchbait doesnt mean they arent scum tho

Blatant and unnecessary discrediting.

Lynchbait should NEVER be lynched D1 unless D1 is LyLo which it clearly isn't. That's a recipe for ML if you do, even if there is the off chance they are scum.

[Ircher]

Scummy is scummy

But scummy != scum.

Your point?