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HumanIn post 635, -Grey- wrote:
Who is this directed at?In post 629, EchoVision wrote:Also, I don't understand what you see that's scummy about me. The reason that you said before about my "frustration on the 190218657 act fucking play" everybody else seemed to have taken for a town tell?-
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Scum.In post 689, rb wrote:
So if you don(t lynch scummy players what are you gonna lynch?In post 671, -Grey- wrote:
False dichotomy.In post 662, rb wrote:Oh ikay so we don't lynch scummy players in this game we lynch towny ones?
Yeah nice
It's easy to paint actions as scummy, but doesn't mean they come from scum motives.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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????In post 513, Human Sequencer wrote:Dunnstral - idk can't ever read dunn fuck you
It was a joke, guess It's hard to process that when you're a robotIn post 591, Ircher wrote:
Is a horrible scumtell.In post 489, Dunnstral wrote:
beetlejuiceIn post 487, Human Sequencer wrote:what the fuck 20 pages
this is what happens when i go to sleep as soon as the game opens and go to work as soon as i wake up
prepare for one million walls
In post 604, Zachstralkita wrote:Spoiler:
Holy fuck guys every time i hit preview theres a new fucking page
Anyways
VOTE: RB
Cool with Pine as well. I want to see where HS vs Creature plays out
and for the love of fuck stop voting easy to spot lynch bait
Don't think I've ever seen zach type like this...............
I don't do thatIn post 672, Zachstralkita wrote:
You can't buy me with a TR, who do you think I am, Dunnstral?rb wrote:Zachstralkita is TOWMn-nNNNN-
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He's my scummate, obvs.In post 699, rb wrote:Also why is Grey defending Ircher“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Feels like Debi, HS, and rb are too low on the list. We'll see about rb though, he's got some pretty vocal resistance.In post 681, Wraith wrote: * Kyouko's #173 is a little odd. She says my vote on Debi is a "good vote" (I assume he's being sarcastic). But he completely ignores Ircher, who voted earlier than I did for an identical or almost identical reason. What?
* So I checked the front of the thread just in case and Kyouko is suddenly scummy to me. He horribly miscounts the Alisae wagon in the present somehow (#678) (where she claims Alisae is L-1 but is actually L-5), and I swear I remember her also doing this earlier in the thread. I'm right - #368 (less egregious, she says Alisae is L-2 but she is actually L-3). In fact, it those posts were her two most recent ones. What's going on here?
* I still don't know what Alisae means by "'gun to my head' townreads"
So so far
Townreads
Grey
Gin
Echo
Ircher
Soft Townreads
HS
Zach
Pine
Murky
Creature
Kyouko
Debi
Scumreads
Alisae
RB
Fucking finally caught up. Pretty damn confident in putting my vote here
Vote: Alisae
I'm pretty okay with a RB lynch too but definitely prefer this one.
Taking a long break.
I skimmed over the post with the Ircher vote tbh. Didn't notice he voted for the same/very similar reason as you, which knocks him down quite a bit for me.
I was drunk last night when I read this post
and because I was drunk I wasn't in the mood to double check that VC. That's why when I voted him I said he was L-2, because I was lazily taking Alisae's word on the size of his wagon. Those are my most recent posts because I went to other games/sleep after and am just coming back here nowIn post 360, Alisae wrote:BTW I'm at L-3
Alisae uses "gun to my head" to express he is uncertain about a slot but if you were to "put a gun to [his] head" he would say... "town/scum"-
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Okay I'll take your word for it.
You miscounting votes as a longshot way of delaying an Alisae wagon until derail while simultaneously being on the wagon as a means of distancing was theory I had in my head but it was admittedly areallytinfoil one.Show"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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^@Kyouko BTWShow"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." -Helder Camara
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“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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In post 687, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why is Gamma your top scum read currently? What are you trying to accomplish here voting an inactive slot?
I was seeing if I could attract a reaction out of him to see if he was lurking. No real meaning to it although I don't like how we got PMs about game start yet he's not here.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Any thoughts you would like to share with the class?In post 670, Wraith wrote:Alright so I'm finally back and underway with my promised re-read.
I'm starting to doubt my doubts about Alisae not only for his recent posts but also something in particular from earlier that I'm now noticing.| here.GTKAS-
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In post 59, Alisae wrote:
Nah, I doubt this. I'm TRing Pine for that fake dayvig (assuming it is fake).In post 58, Creature wrote:Looks like scum theater.In post 179, Alisae wrote:
I doubt the possiblility of it being scum theatre. I townread Pine for the vake dayvig, and I am liking Gin so far, he seems genuine.In post 178, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Game has to leave RVS sometime. I don't think he's right about scum theatre but that doesn't make him scum. You don't think it's possible that Pine and GinIn post 174, Alisae wrote:Voting Creature because I disliked how he immediately assumed singleball and I hate how he immediately assumed scum theatre between Pine and Gincouldbe theatering?
Side note, excited about the table gathered for this gameIn post 206, Alisae wrote:
Am I not allowed to ask if people care about my stance on the game?In post 202, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why are you asking for permission? Just do it if that's your thing.In post 200, Alisae wrote:Should I give reads now?
Pine and Gin are my stronger townreads.
Uzi is probably town
Zach gun to my head town
Wraith townlean
Ircher townlean
Debi Null
Dunn scumlean
Creature Scum
Kyouko Scum
Anyone else nullIn post 271, Alisae wrote:And alright rb, even if it is dumb, it's not like to changes my TR on Pine.In post 409, Alisae wrote:Final reads before I go take a shower, go to sleep, and then wake up to find out that I got lynched.
Town: rb, Grey, Uzi, Gin, Pine, Echo, Debi, Zach
Scum: Kyouko, Creature, Wraith, Dunn, and maybe Ircher
Null: Everyone else.
TOWN PINE TOWN PINE TOWN PINE TOWN PINE TOWN PINEIn post 720, Alisae wrote:Me catching up Gin. BTW Nice tie.
Scum joined my wagon. Cool.
I'm starting to see what's up with rb, but I really feel like Pine is scum. Like, I really just don't like how Pine basicly sheeped rb.
SENPINE WANTS ME DEAD, HE NO LONGER SENPINE HE SCUM.
We have a thing for what you call thinking someone is scum because they want you lynched (It's OMGUS)“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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I thought I did this already. OH WAIT!In post 721, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Make a case against Pine!scum
To add this, it's also a scum tactic to continue to provoke someone who doesn't respond well to pressure.In post 636, Alisae wrote:
Scum Pine immediately jumps on Debi for being an alt not knowing Debi at all because in the future of Day 1 they might get a lynch off of them.In post 95, Pine wrote:Checked Debi's post history. Definitely an alt. If she'd been a genuine newbie, I could let that go, but she isn't.
That's overthinking things to an absurd degree. I don't buy it.
FoS Debi
Scum Pine defending himself against it even after someone who knows Debi advocates for them. They probably wanted to go for Debi.In post 108, Pine wrote:
Her first post is to /in for this game, then a few here. Such a direct entrance, nothing in newbie, no confusion or questions, that isn't a newbie. It's an alt.In post 97, Alisae wrote:
This is the part where I advocate for debi and say that it's their first game on site.In post 95, Pine wrote:If she'd been a genuine newbie, I could let that go, but she isn't.
PEdit: That explains things somewhat, but your statistics nonsense is utter horsecrap, don't think that it's at all useful. What is,That kind of odds assessment is only really valid prior to randomization, after the fact it isn't.is.
PEdit2: Ircher, stop feeding the math troll.
Let's discredit Debi!In post 264, Pine wrote:
I really want to take offense and tell you to fuck yourself but...kinda yeah.In post 258, rb wrote:Pine is town because hes being an antisocial loser which is how he plays town
Also, I somehow missed Debi's wallpost listing her reads. I skipped to mine (because ego) and laughed my ass off. I didn't bother reading the rest. I'm sorry, I have 14 posts in the six hours that the game has been open, yet somehow you're SRing me because you think I'm lurking? Seriously, go play Newbie games. You need to adapt.
Still no reasoning behind why and the part of "Let's end the day within the 24 hours when only 14 out of 19 have posted notable content" is bullshit to me.In post 455, Pine wrote:
Okay, rb, real talk. Tell me why Gin is scum. You keep talking about your murder priapism for him, but haven't said why yet, which is frustrating because I have a pretty strong TR on him.In post 411, rb wrote:
can we please lynch gin and not alisaeIn post 406, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:A man posting spiderman memes is so obv town we don't even need to question his motives.
I'm 100% okay with an Alisae lynch, even if it's a pretty quick one. I'm recently kind of coming around to the notion that long days, especially D1s, are completely counterproductive, so a lynch of Aliscum with some policy motive peppered in suits me just fine.
Actually, I was thinking about this while playing Heroes of the Storm. Given offsite origin, I'm wondering whether all that wallposting and badmath is what passes for good scum smokescreening over there. Bad, pretty baseless reads covered by gaudy, overtly showy attempts to show "LOOK AT ME GAMESOLVING" suggests scum in context. Trying too hard.In post 424, rb wrote:i doubt debi is scum unless rly good, but that kind of play is really hard to replicate as scum for an entire game so we'll seeNo. Bad Gin. Stop it.
Going to bed. I look forward to spending ALL DAMN MORNING catching up to you spammy fuckers.
PEdit: OH LOOK. There were SEVEN posts while writing this. How unsurprising.
Hey! Let's Appease Alisae after they jumped on me for that. And I quote:In post 462, Pine wrote:
From her position on the short end of a big wagon, this looks like appeasement. Town doesn't try to appease, they try to lynch their own reads. Overt willingness to follow is scummyIn post 457, Alisae wrote:
I kinda don't know, what is the conclusion you are leading me to?In post 456, -Grey- wrote:
He quite clearly scumreads you. Yet he refuses to vote you even though you're the leading wagon.In post 450, Alisae wrote:if rb townreads me your point on him is fine, but honestly I can't tell if he scumreads me or not.
If I was the leading wagon and rb was scumreading me but fishing for a wagon elsewhere, what would that tell you about rb?
Okay bed now.
PEdit: I'd rather we stretched the day to 48ish hours at least, but I'm kind of okay with it. Pine of a year ago would immediately declare a jihad on me for saying so, but sometimes - only sometimes, mind you - discussion is counterproductive. D1 of a very large game is one of those sometimes.In post 472, Pine wrote:More appeasement.
Pro tip: Next time you want to be mistaken for Town, stick to your guns a little more.
Okay, to be fair, maybe I did read that 48 for a 24 because tired. But either way, appeasement with the attempt to shut down my arguement.In post 468, Pine wrote:
Yeah, not really. Your focus is so far from Wraith that I'd forgotten you were pushing him.In post 463, Alisae wrote:
I'm tryng to lynch Wraith. He is my own scumread.In post 462, Pine wrote:From her position on the short end of a big wagon, this looks like appeasement. Town doesn't try to appease, they try to lynch their own reads
PEdit: Feel free to not buy it, but I'm reminded of Rolling in the Deep, from a few years ago. One of the longest D1s ever at the time, well over 100 pages, and we ended up deadlocked until a townie got himself modkilled. Bullshit discussion wasn't helpful. What was helpful, and what got the game really rolling, was seeing a couple of flips so those early reads had some context. Site meta for protracted discussion seems to have gotten worse over the last couple of years. The more people talk, the more calcified and entrenched opinions get, and people miss shit because it doesn't fit with their preconceptions.
So let's give it another day or so, get meaningful contributions from everyone, then lynch Alisae.
PEdit: Yeah, that entire post completely misrepresents what I said. Nice try though.
Hey! I'm scum!Pine! Let's push lynch bait and add nothing as I hide on this wagon and keep on saying "Alisae is scum" without saying why? Great fucking plan!In post 606, Pine wrote:I don't think Alisae is Town lynch bait. I think she's genuinely scum who's fucking up due to inexperience. Not all easy lynches are bad. Stop trying to make "easy=Town" a Truism, it just isn't.| here.GTKAS-
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I'm finding this hard to believe to be honest. It read like you felt better about Wraith for town and decided to move on to another scum read.In post 716, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:In post 687, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why is Gamma your top scum read currently? What are you trying to accomplish here voting an inactive slot?
I was seeing if I could attract a reaction out of him to see if he was lurking. No real meaning to it although I don't like how we got PMs about game start yet he's not here.
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