Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[Realeo]

I have a feeling that KMD is genuine scumhunting, but the logic feels awkward.

I just can't tell if it's play style or scum trying to busy.

[Realeo]

VOTE: Transcend

I have been keep thinking this.

Back in d1, I end the day voting Transcend. The reason is that Transcend

for no reason

suddenly saw me as a lynch bait.

You say you saw me as a lynch bait and you say that's a gut read.

But during the time where I don't talk a lot and you unvote me, the only thing I said was "I want guacamole" + prompting people to explain it. Nothing to gut read unless I say something nice.

And you're the first(?) to unvote me.

You're not wise town making the right read, you are scum who is quickly evading my wagon, afraid to be called 0pp0rtunistic scum.

The fact that when Transcend, after re-reading my iso, read back my WTF entry and scumread me again indicates that he saw me as a lynch bait for no logical reason. In other word, the reason he saw my as a lynch bait,

was he was scum want to jump of the wagon first.

The logical reasoning to saw me as lynch bait was non-existent in the first place, so when he re-reads the iso, he failed to townread me.

If town!Transcend really saw me as a lynch bait, when he saw my iso, he would be reminded by his scumfuck feeling. But as he continue reading, should also be reminded why he thought me why I was lynch bait

The fact that

1) Transcend pursue me with fitz
2) BK confirms it

means the reason to think I was lynchbait was non-existant in the first place.

This is scum. Transcend can be erratic, but you can follow his thinking process. He can buddy anyone as he want and drop those buddy as he want. Bo no matter hwo erratic, you can follow his thinking process.

His doesn't adds up.

[Realeo]

I mean, look at his d3 read.

LOOK AT HIS TIME STAMP!

6:48

Fuck i read the first 4 posts, why did i town read this?


VOTE: Fitz

6:52

Okay finished the Io iso.

This slot is scum imo.

Gamma is still scum too.

As for the other two idk.

Notice that these two post are 4 minutes difference.

Transcend is reading Io's Iso, Fitz's Iso and (presumbaly) Gamma's Iso in 4 minutes? Is that even possible

6:55

I'm not too sure about Kuroi being a scum flip anymore. Time will tell.

Pretty sure BK and Joshz are town here.

No idea how to read NM. Is he town? Guys?

Realeo could be scum too. The beginning of his game was a giant wtf.

Kmd for fourth scum? I remember him being pretty towny.

Aristo? I haven't made apples and oranges of him yet.

Blurgh.

This post is 3 minutes difference.

Assuming he iso them, he iso 6 people is 3 minutes. Even if it's not iso, how do you skimread 6 people in 3 minutes? 15 seconds already for writing the post

6:56

Blurgh actually bk could be scum. Idk. It's time for a flip imo.

Would say with relatively good confidence that Josh is town.

Faking meltdown...in 1 minute. BK iso is large. How do you skimread BK in 1 minute

7:00

I think Aristo is scum

What say you guys?

Io jumped off of Realeo too early and the hop on was kinda awkward

Aristo has barely interacted with gamma here.

Idk ideas hmmm

7:13

Fuck it gamma and Fitz are scum, just not on the same team

Joshz is town

I don't see NM on either scum team.

Kmd is likely town I'll need to re iso

I think Kuroi is town, but I'm not gonna be too reliant on that read.

BK is definitely not with Fitz and probably not with gamma. I think his scum hunting is genuine this roll.

That leaves Realeo and Aristo.

Realeo/Fitz
Gamma/Aristo

Ftw?

He's faking desperation. When you consider the timestamp, he's faky as fuck.

Lynch this dog.

[Aristophanes]

I was suspecting Gamma up through end of D1 but I think he is a good possibility for both teams targetting combined with the observation that he hasn't received hardly any attention D2. He and Rory both reached L-3 near the end of D1 but I just feel like Gamma was more likely to get 2 targets. He was at L-4 much longer than Rory and closer to the end of D1.

Did we ever discuss this theory to the point of actual wagon analysis?

Gamma wagon: Transcend, Io, Not_Mafia, Rory. It died then grew again to be Transcend, Rory, nn30, and Io.
nn30 has flipped town, and Transcend did get back onto that wagon later on D2. NM didn't keep on it through the full day. Io and Rory did though. They pushed it twice (citations pending) and then dropped it cold turkey the next day. If we theorize a Gamma NK target N1, we would probably assume the scumteams were pushing him throughout the day to get the other faction lynched (should they have both shot for scum). So looking at the votes, Io/Fitz and Rory should both be mafia, but on opposing teams. This is all if Gamma was the target and the reason for the wagon drop D2 was lack of momentum from the main people who pushed it D1.

I don't know if this makes any sense, since it is a theory on a theory. But hey, it's a start!

[Realeo]

I thought the theory of Gamma NK is stupid?

That's a hypochrite.

[Transcend]

Lol

[Realeo]

Lol

Come on, start make some excuse. We know your bark is far worse than your bite.

[Aristophanes]

After reading Realeo's posts, I'll reconsider Transcend. I believe he started voting Gamma D2 after the whole "suspicion was dropped, but why!? question started circulating. It is possible he got scared and voted to show consistency in reads, and that he hadn't been influenced by a night result.

[Aristophanes]

I thought the theory of Gamma NK is stupid?

That's a hypochrite.

I also think this, but if people are gonna theorize on it, I may as well finish it.

[Realeo]

I believe he started voting Gamma D2 after the whole "suspicion was dropped, but why!? question started circulating. It is possible he got scared and voted to show consistency in reads, and that he hadn't been influenced by a night result.

Absolutely correct!

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

The most important point is that he voted Gamma Emerald when (1) GE didn't talk for the last 5 pages before the GE vote and (2) A lot of shit happen during this 5 pages (ie. The discussion of GE, the Amish tell.) Instead of dodging the attention, he can just vote the shit!

Exactly like my case! He suddenly townread me just because I said "I want guacamole" and start asking people to explain.

[Transcend]

Lol you're just an enormous scum fuck.

[Aristophanes]

I think I've talked myself into this..

VOTE: Transcend

[Realeo]

Lol you're just an enormous scum fuck.

We know your bark is far worse than your bite.

[Transcend]

So i got lynched right

Okay well i was town. Please sheep me tm.

Pretty sure you lynched the person who both factions killed.

[Transcend]

On night 1 btw

[Aristophanes]

...I was not the hammer, was I?

[Transcend]

Actually since this is the 4th town death, scum need to cross kill.

Fitz / Realeo, take it from a pro. The scum are gamma and aris.

Also vice versa lol.

[Realeo]

...I was not the hammer, was I?

L-3

[Transcend]

...I was not the hammer, was I?

You were, but you're scum so don't even pretend to be ashamed.

[Transcend]

...I was not the hammer, was I?

You were, but you're scum so don't even pretend to be ashamed.

[Transcend]

Oh i thought i got lynched hmm

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend Is trying to fake towntell IMO.
VOTE: Transcend

[Realeo]

Oh i thought i got lynched hmm

Pro tip: If NM is not on your wagon, high chance you're not lynched.

pedit: That's L-2

[Aristophanes]

...I was not the hammer, was I?

L-3

That was what I'd thought. Nice try!

[Transcend]

I love it when i have 3 scum on my wagon.