Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

[Gamma Emerald]

@Tywin: why are you SRing me? I want ALL the reasons.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tywin has voted
Alisae, RVS
CK, confscum
Titus, def a wagon
Nos, confscum
Aj, def a wagon
ssbm, probs a wagon
Pine, maybe a wagon
That is six non-RVS votes though: definitely not all scum.

[Alisae]

Tywin has voted
Alisae, RVS
CK, confscum
Titus, def a wagon
Nos, confscum
Aj, def a wagon
ssbm, probs a wagon
Pine, maybe a wagon
That is six non-RVS votes though: definitely not all scum.

Huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

He's been saying he never wagoned town.

[Alisae]

And?

[Gamma Emerald]

And that's very unlikely.

[Alisae]

we talking about Tywin?

[Alisae]

oh wait, read that wrong, read that as you analyzing the Lapsa wagon.

[Alisae]

Where does Tywin say that exactly?

[Alisae]

Also you forgot the part where he voted himself.

[Gamma Emerald]

Question: was Tywin calling Titus possible scum or not earlier this game day?
@Ali: I don't really count that tbh.

[Alisae]

Doubt it. Don't remember tbh. Probably not tho. Why?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

So there are 4 traitor games in the archive and they're all 4 mafia total except one game where there were 5 mafia but in that game there were 21 players, a vengeful, and a lot of protective power (a doc, a non-consecutive doc, and a 3-shot commuter). Should only be 2 scum left imo, regardless of the presence of an SK (there were SKs in 3 of those games which had 21/19/21 players, no SK in the last game, a 16 slot game).

Gonna spec based on past games we're looking at 13 town vs 4 mafia, maybe 12v4v1 if town has a lot of protectives still lying in wait which seems unlikely given how many kills there have been.
2 scum dead leaves us with just 2 left so I think we should consider that when looking at possible scum

[Alisae]

So there are 4 traitor games in the archive and they're all 4 mafia total except one game where there were 5 mafia but in that game there were 21 players, a vengeful, and a lot of protective power (a doc, a non-consecutive doc, and a 3-shot commuter).

Should only be 2 scum left imo

, regardless of the presence of an SK (there were SKs in 3 of those games which had 21/19/21 players, no SK in the last game, a 16 slot game).

Gonna spec based on past games we're looking at 13 town vs 4 mafia, maybe 12v4v1 if town has a lot of protectives still lying in wait which seems unlikely given how many kills there have been.
2 scum dead leaves us with just 2 left so I think we should consider that when looking at possible scum

but if 2-3 of [Pine, Gamma, Elbirn] are scum

it wouldn't be unreasonable for town to sense something is wrong with the Lapsa wagon and vote for one of the scummy players on that wagon. It could be town was wrong about which of the players on that wagon was scummy, or it could be that Lapsa wasn't gaining enough traction so other members of the scumteam started a new wagon elsewhere (you), in which case you'd be town. If you flip, we know what happened. If you flip town, points to scum on your wagon. Speaking of, CK was last onto your wagon and he knows who the scumteam is. That points to you being town imo, which means scum thought lapsa wasn't gaining traction and started wagon on you, probably

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[Titus]

Question: was Tywin calling Titus possible scum or not earlier this game day?
@Ali: I don't really count that tbh.

Yes, but recanted when told of Cabd flip. Yet he was aware of Nos flip.

[Titus]

I also see a Gamma, Titus, Pine scumteam being a thing if Elbrin is right about his shit.
Think about it. Titus never agreed to the early wagon D1 but goes on it anyways becuase most of her townreads were on it. Sheep and a shitty attmempt at a bus.
Titus also refuses to think that Pine is scum.
But if this is true, then how Titus was cleared by a gunsmith is wierd unless the following is true: Cabd lied about clearing Titus.

Stay out of my liquor cabinet.

[Alisae]

I also see a Gamma, Titus, Pine scumteam being a thing if Elbrin is right about his shit.
Think about it. Titus never agreed to the early wagon D1 but goes on it anyways becuase most of her townreads were on it. Sheep and a shitty attmempt at a bus.
Titus also refuses to think that Pine is scum.
But if this is true, then how Titus was cleared by a gunsmith is wierd unless the following is true: Cabd lied about clearing Titus.

Stay out of my liquor cabinet.

I'm underaged.
I shouldn't be there in the first place.

[Titus]

Did I miss a hammer?

No and Tywin is not getting hammered today.
Sorry.

He is if I have anything to say about it.

I will settle for Nero or Elbrin if I must.

[Aj The Epic]

We could... you know, go with my D2 idea and lynch kyouko.

I do like Elbrin but Kyouko is a lynch I think everyone sorta has but no one's acting on.

[Alisae]

We could... you know, go with my D2 idea and lynch kyouko.

I do like Elbrin but Kyouko is a lynch I think everyone sorta has but no one's acting on.

I scumread Kyouko.
But I rather lynch pine and shoot Kyouko. But if people insist, I'll swap wagons.

[Alisae]

Hey Titus. If Kyouko is scum, what will that say about Pine?
Or would it be better to ask if Pine is scum, what would that say about Kyouko.

[Alisae]

Did I miss a hammer?

No and Tywin is not getting hammered today.
Sorry.

He is if I have anything to say about it.

I will settle for Nero or Elbrin if I must.

Alegory of the cave.

[Titus]

Hey Titus. If Kyouko is scum, what will that say about Pine?
Or would it be better to ask if Pine is scum, what would that say about Kyouko.

Kyoko being scum leaves no associations left for my other reads beyond two of them being too dumb to live unless I guess right.

[Titus]

Pine usn't scum.

[Alisae]

Pine usn't scum.

At this point I doubt Tywin, Elbrin, or Nero are scum either.