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[Aj The Epic]

Aj you are interesting.
I think I am starting to solve this game and the Kyouko flip will say a lot.

If this wasn't in your equation already, it's worthless.

[Tywin Lannister]

I'm joining this Kyouko train. I like how gamma won't mention him btw. Neither will Kyouko mention gamma. Both keep going after me, but isn't it obvious that IF I was scum, I couldn't be the only one? Why haven't those players looked at anyone else besides me? Pine too... None of those three will even look at anyone but me, and IMO, that reveals a lot. They don't know who else to go after, because nobody else has been called scum by town. Due to that, they just continue shading me while not contributing whatsoever. After my flip, I feel like the game will be solved. Even Titus won't be able to ignore these guys after I flip.

VOTE: Kyouko

[Gamma Emerald]

Question: was Tywin calling Titus possible scum or not earlier this game day?
@Ali: I don't really count that tbh.

Yes, but recanted when told of Cabd flip. Yet he was aware of Nos flip.

tbh, Tywin feels like scum being coached.

Explain, and why would I be coached in-thread if I was scum? How dumb are you? My scum buddies would coach in the scum thread. There is confirmed day talk, so I think you're badly reaching with nothing to grasp on to. It's kind of pathetic really.

Location is irrelevant. You are being coached.

[Tywin Lannister]

Question: was Tywin calling Titus possible scum or not earlier this game day?
@Ali: I don't really count that tbh.

Yes, but recanted when told of Cabd flip. Yet he was aware of Nos flip.

tbh, Tywin feels like scum being coached.

Explain, and why would I be coached in-thread if I was scum? How dumb are you? My scum buddies would coach in the scum thread. There is confirmed day talk, so I think you're badly reaching with nothing to grasp on to. It's kind of pathetic really.

Location is irrelevant. You are being coached.

I question your knowledge of Mafia in general after comments like this. Either you're just so new to the game that i should consider these revelations of yours to just be ignorance, or I have to consider you scum for reaching so badly here that it's ridiculous.

Location matters completely. What makes you think it's irrelevant? That's an idiotic statement to say the least. It really is stupid.

Also, you keep ignoring my question. Explain what is there that is coaching me. I don't see anything at all that makes your statement even true in a hypothetical basis. There's nothing there, so why say this statement? What am I being coached on?

Again, it's so big of an illogical reach that either I consider you newbtown or I consider you scum. There isn't any other explanation for saying what you have. It was shade throwing without any logic or substance behind it whatsoever.

Also, please weigh in on Kyouko. Please weigh in on Pine. Please weigh in on any player in the game besides me. Even if you truly believed I was scum (which I don't believe at all, since you're scum), you have tunneled on me for three game days now. I couldn't be the only scum, so why aren't you sorting anyone else? What possible town reason could you have for ignoring the entire rest of the game, and also specifically ignoring any mentioning of players named Kyouko and Pine?

This game is too easy when scum are this bad.

[Tywin Lannister]

Kyouko:

If you aren't scum, then who do you think the last remaining scum players are? I take it that you view me as one of them, but even you admitted there are probably 4. That being said, whose the other player you SR? If I flipped town, who would be your third SR?

Gamma: same question

Pine: same question

[Gamma Emerald]

Sonia is my other SR. As for the SR if you flip town, ssbm most likely.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you stop fucking coaching scum AJ?

Explain a case on me before you call me scum. All this shit wagoning by you, gamma, etc without reasons needs to stop immediately. You've all had two chances to prove your shit method works, and it's been proven wrong twice. Time to play the game like you're supposed to if you're not scum.

What method?

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly, at this rate, you all have a better chance of winning by voting no lynch and letting Alisae carry town to victory. The brand new player has made better decisions than all of our town leaders combined after last night. I think that goes to show something here. The only confirmed player is Titus now, so if she wants me lynched, I should be the lynch. That being said, when I flip VC like I claimed on D1, you can all blame the town loss on her.

Nice AtE. Your flip is not the end of the game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I L1? Hammering myself. Good luck! I said this all game and nobody listened.

Still enjoying the summer breeze (alive)

Pine

Nero Cain

gerryoat

Gamma Emerald
Aj The Epic

xSoniaNevermindx

ssbm_Kyouko

Alisae

Tywin Lannister

Elbirn

Titus

UNVOTE:

not letting this nerd kill himself yet

But he should know he doesn't win a fight with you at this point.

I win the fight by being right. Getting me lynched only proves my point. Titus is a bad player this game. She isn't in others, so if she isn't scum, then she had an absolutely terrible showing as town. It's atrocious.

VOTE: Tywin

Somebody will hammer. Even if it isn't me. Peace

Tywin is scum. HE POSTED BETWEEN HIS ANNOUNCEMENT AND HIS SELFVOTE. No person who actually selfvoting out of frustration does that.
ssbm might be town for cockblocking the selfhammer.

[Pine]

I'm working to catch up. Will probably finish in a couple of hours, at which point I'll have a wallpost. I'll try to be concise.

[Gamma Emerald]

Elbrin, I would like a whole readslust from you.

How about a reads *list* instead?
-----------------------

Town

Pine

Transcend Syryana

gerryoat
Alisae
Titus

Scum

Nero Cain
Tywin Lannister
Ssbm_Kyouko**

Uhhhh

Gamma Emerald
Aj The Epic
xSoniaNevermindx

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So here's where I'm at, I'm done with Tywin's shit and the last bit of doubt in my heart was my belief that he was the mason partner. With that denied, he's a scum shit for sure.

Nero I'm probably being an over reactive baby towards but his vote thing yesterday pissed me off and he's done fuckall this game

Now Kyouko is kinda like "whaa" but look listen, what do we have for townready evidence? He openly speculated about masons? That sounded great when pine said it but now I'm kinda like...okay? Scum wants speculation about PR's to try to out them. We've got cloud hinting traitor towards kyouko, Kyouko hard townreading nos on *nothing*, scum-tywin mad distancing from him. Kyouko pointing out nos' fake doctor crumbs after his flip was like "look at what my scumbuddy did wow give me towncred" and it rubs me the wrong way.

I've kinda been sitting on this but yeah I don't trust Kyouko anymore and I want him tomorrow


Then my uhh list is like uhhh. Gamma and sonia I feel nothing for. I feel like sonia was town before for some reason but I don't remember why.

Gamma is gamma enjoy. There's like nothing there.

Aj I had as scummy for a few reasons but he's less so than those other 3 and at some point I started thinking of him less as scum and more as another collaborative voice.

Explain this, I want a fucking essay.

[Elbirn]

You'll get nothing and like it

"There's nothing there" In terms of my feelings for you. I have none. You exist in a blind spot. You have ascended null-hood and reached I don't give a fuck-nirvana

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Well Tywin if you're scum then I must be the last scum and we staged your fake selfhammering AtE

Did you read my ISO like you said you would before you mindlessly repeated the same accusation you had before? If you're scum it's with AJ or Sonia. If you're town Gamma is scum imo.

If I flip today it will be fine though because of the opportunistic nature of the votes on me.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

In response to Nero though, just looked back at Sonia's vote off the mozamis wagon. I'd say Tywin being scum is a strong indicator for town Sonia so I'll wait for that flip. Scum!Sonia wouldn't move off of mozamis to get onto her buddy

[ssbm_Kyouko]

And the reason I didn't really pay attention to it is because mozamis was more of a scumread at the time and Sonia was just not rubbing me as town (still isn't) so was sort of just PoEd and associated with Cloud into a weak SR.

[Elbirn]

Hi Kyouko. Can you explain why you were townreading nos? Tia

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yeah it's like my 3rd post upon daystart, quack and MD crumbs made me think doctor, that's the extent of my TR on them. I really just didn't want them to be wagoned because I didn't want their claim to be forced out

[Alisae]

Now that I think about it, I think Gamma is scum. Why?

Can someone summarize the last ~25 pages plz?

Didn't catch it at the time because I didn't know Gamma as well, but this isn't town!Gamma.
Or doesn't feel like it atleast.

[Alisae]

OMGAWD OMGAWD OMGAWD TITUS!
I think I understand where you're coming from now and why you need a Tywin lynch done.
If it's what I am thinking, I don't see how Nero and AJ are involved. I see Elbrin playing a huge role in it tho.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well Tywin if you're scum then I must be the last scum and we staged your fake selfhammering AtE

Did you read my ISO like you said you would before you mindlessly repeated the same accusation you had before? If you're scum it's with AJ or Sonia. If you're town Gamma is scum imo.

If I flip today it will be fine though because of the opportunistic nature of the votes on me.

Is this in response to me

[Gamma Emerald]

Now that I think about it, I think Gamma is scum. Why?

Can someone summarize the last ~25 pages plz?

Didn't catch it at the time because I didn't know Gamma as well, but this isn't town!Gamma.
Or doesn't feel like it atleast.

I have done that as both alignments.
Also note that I trucked along and read anyway.

[Titus]

It basically confirms that this game is in a state of apathy.
And come lynch Kyouko with me?

If you're going that scum have apathy theory, that would necessitate both Tywin and SSM town or scum.

[Titus]

Why are people suggesting lynching Elbirn

Cuz of prior votes.

[Alisae]

Votecount 1.F

Lapsa 9 (Pine, CloudKicker, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko, Cabd, Syryana, Alisae)

Nosferatu 3 (Elbirn, xSoniaNevermindx, Lapsa)
Titus 3 (Nero Cain, mozamis, Tywin Lannister)
Alisae 1 (Aj The Epic)
CloudKicker 1 (Nosferatu)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

I also just noticed this. I remember Tywin being on Nosferatu not Titus before that day ended.
Titus am I looking at the right place?

[Elbirn]

Why are people suggesting lynching Elbirn

Cuz of prior votes.

Show the class your work instead of just saying "prior votes" like it means anything