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The Week of October 14th
110 days until Iowa
118 days until New Hampshire
391 days until the Presidential Election
Headlines
The papers are released each day in the morning, and describe what happened the previous day. The first day of the cycle is a Wednesday, and the last a Tuesday, but the first newspapers are Thursday's, and the last Wednesday's.
Thursday's papers:The world watches and waits to see ifscandal[/color] takes hold. It...does not. It's still on the front page of every newspaper in this godforsaken country, but it's fading. Lying will get you places, folks. Elsewhere,Defender'sgives a policy speech on Iran, consisting of the words "get rid of it", to rapturous applause.Khanmakes a good impression on On The Record, although I still have no idea who Greta Van Susteren is. Don't even think she has Twitter.Negarirnegativity Questions remain,TSLsuccessfully paintsReckonerWar on Terror policy as nuts without anyone noticing he has the exact same policy, and protesters get their kicks atPeanuts'andNegarirevents.McGriddles
Friday:The US will have boots on the ground in Afghanistan until 2017, as announced by President Obama today. It's dominating the news, and the issue of military intervention is a hot button issue, but wait!is in more hot water!Defendercontinues his successful spinning with a roaring attack onReckonerintegrity, and it makes everything worse--thisDefender's, far from being over like some (me) thought, is now the most damaging news story for any candidate to date.scandalcontinues the debate victory tour with a good showing on The O'Reilly Factor (which: wow), whileSpiretalks education on Jimmy Fallon (when Fallon isn't laughing at his own jokes) and calls for stronger immigration controls. Which is so out of the ordinary. He's also in Colorado, which would make sense in the general, but not quite now!!! Meanwhile,Negarirlets everyone know that unions aren't all bad, to mixed results, andMothmaactually seizes on the hot-button issue of the day by way of callingAbbotta complete warmonger, whereasKhanis only a warmonger during the working week.Abbott
Saturday:Oh my god just someone shovein a hole before he makes things worse,Defenderripped him to shreds on the Rachel Maddow show andNegarirresponded and tried to defend??? himself????? which, I guess it's in the name, but thisDefenderis now really, really bad. Anyway,scandalalso managed to talk about crushing corruption on TRMS, which, good choice of topic; andNegarirremembered he needed to win the primaries and campaigned on government spending in New Hampshire. It's a Saturday, you can't expect much.Reckoner
Sunday:Ding, ding, ding, we have an endorsement! Strongly encouraged by his "businesses need tax cuts to pay for company cars" stance,have endorsedAmericans for Tax Reformwholeheartedly; the momentum is building, andKhanis gearing up to campaign forGrover Norquistempire to rise and rise and rise.Khan'sDefender'sis starting to fade, helped in part by bothscandaldemurring and defending when asked, andKhan'sown successful speech showcasing his breadth of knowledge on the issues.Defender'simmediately hits the road in Virginia to celebrate, although his surrogate gets hit with some protests at an event; andKhanhusband tries to campaign on tax rates for his wife, and also gets protested, because why not. First Amendment, huh!TSL's
Monday:, still in New Hampshire probably, is packing them IN with his fiery rhetoric on government spending (even if it's pretty standard Democratic language).Reckonerwho sure isn't around a whole lot after dominating the debate for some reason, shines on Colbert, whileSpirehas a go onPeanuts-favourite Meet The Press.Reckonercompletes the Democratic trifecta by doing well on Rachel Maddow, being able to name the top marginal tax rate, unlike some people.McGriddlesandSpirehave basically the same healthcare policy, but it ain't stopping the latter for slamming the former for it. And thatPeanutsDefenderis in the rear-view mirror...but how much damage has it done?scandal
Tuesday:A big day for, in both ways: people seem to like his vision of an unfettered, overbudgeted military, butNegarirattacked him from the left in light of the Afghanistan announcement. The recent parity inTSLturns into bad news forgeneral election polling, asNegarirspins it into a failing of the current polling leader (Khan) to lift that number higher. AndNegarirmakes an appearance, poking just enough holes inSerduchkaColbert performance for it to be left behind in the news cycle.Spire's
Wednesday:couldn't tell Fox News Sunday, of all people, whether he supported the Second Amendment (he does, but in a mainstream Democratic way, you feel), so no matter how bad your day is, at least it ain't that. Two duelling speeches get coverage today; those ofPeanutswho gets mixed reviews for her cookie-cutter Democratic government intervention platform, andSerduchka, who did better in articulating what essential programs should be cut and how brutally it should be done.Defendertried to slam him on exactly that issue, but it did minimal damage at best--and theKhanDefenderis officially over.scandalThe first Republican primary debate is in seven days.
Week in Review
The news cycle strength is how good or bad your media was for the week, if you had any media at all. The ads just tell you who's producing what, and what's being targeted in each. Scandals are self-explanatory. The full picture has basically everything that happened, but unformatted, so you can cry while you read it.
Spoiler: News cycle strength
Spoiler: Ads
Spoiler: Scandals
Spoiler: The rest
Gaining momentum:Peanuts, Spire, McGriddles
Losing momentum:Negarir, Defender, TSL
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Ignore McMullin. Leaders of each state are colour-coded; white states means it's too close to call. The percentage list on the right-hand side is the popular vote; the lines and segments down the bottom are PROJECTED delegates. Once delegates start being earned, that will be added separately.
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news strength =/= momentum; news strength is literally the sum of your positive and negative stories, and a debate win story usually is both very positive and lasts a long timeIn post 34, xRECKONERx wrote:spire: has weak news cycle, has +23 momentum
i'd say probably 80% of that +23 is the debate win
spire's momentum on the other hand is +1.1, which is okay, but not extraordinary, and not first
national momentum on the right, and if u got an upward arrow in a state it means u got momentum there too
so basically news is one component of momentum, it also increases or decreases via ads for you and ads against you, the actual actions you and your surrogates are taking, organizational strength, what exactly it is you're saying and whether the issues you're focusing on have room to grow for you or don't.....it's a lot
momentum is also a delayed thing; it takes time to build momentum from stories, and it takes time for poll numbers to be affected by momentum.
and in the end, momentum is only great if it's helping you win
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The Week of October 21st
103 days until Iowa
111 days until New Hampshire
384 days until the Presidential Election
Headlines
A day by day analysis of what's making the news. The papers are released each day in the morning, and describe what happened the previous day. The first day of the cycle is a Wednesday, and the last a Tuesday, but the first newspapers are Thursday's, and the last Wednesday's.
Thursday's papers:is ROLLING in the dough and, true to form, she wants you to know about it.TSLfinally decides to do something and drops the hottest ad of 2015, or something, attackingSerduchkapinko commie only-slightly-further-left-than-she-is health care plan.Spire'stalks about gun control with Fox News Sunday and you can guess what the tone of it was, probably.Negarirgives a major speech decrying American military interventionism, without realizing his audience are all hawks, so you can probably guess how that played.Reckoneris content to slamDefendermaybe-free-trade-is-good stance, and, oh, did we mention the corruptionMothma'sthat's just broken overscandalhead? I know it's just a Chicago thing, but you just can't accept designer clothes, turn around, and refuse to prosecute designer clothing manufacturers for visa fraud. You just can't.Serduchka's
Friday:Fmr. Sec. Clinton, who turned down a second bid at the Presidency after seeing the extremely strong Democratic field, testified for eleven hours before the House Committee on Benghazi. Also, theare POURING IN!scandalsplagarized parts of his authorized biography!Negarirclaimed to be the heir to Ronald McDonald's estate!McGriddles, everywhere.Scandalsfundraising has been spun out of existence byTSL's, whileAbbotttries to put herSerduchkato rest for good with a surprisingly strong showing on Jimmy Fallon.scandalseems to be the only one out in the field right now, with a poignant speech on why the tax code is fine as it is. Maybe poignant isn't the right word.Spire
Saturday:A lot of coverage today, but not much in the way of good OR bad news; just neutral will do.andKhanput forward two competing speeches; the first on how government should be really really tiny probably, the second on how the Iran Deal is probably bad; both made little splash. What influential news came was minute at best--Defendercontinues to campaign on ~exporting democracy~ in Iowa;TSLMcGriddles'only gets attention fromscandal, andReckonerseems to be slipping hisNegarirunder the rug as we speak, or, at least, he's managed to not make it get bigger. Politics, she is fickle.scandal
Sunday:It's a big Sunday. Two effective moments from both sides of the aisle today:, seemingly no longer troubled by bad news, nailed Fox News Sunday even when the question turned to why Democrats were sinful for wanting to expand government.Serduchkaphilosophy of "bomb first, ask questions later" also hit its mark. So effective were those two stories, they nearly buried what might otherwise be big news: three major endorsements from across the spectrum.Negarir'swon the endorsement ofSpire, who hits the trail immediately;Fmr. Pres. Jimmy Carterhimself added to his endorsement collection withKhan, who likewise is really excited to campaign for some reason, andFmr. Pres. George H. W. Bushwins Actually Good BillionaireMcGriddles. Oh, but there's more, and not just because I clicked down;Warren Buffetthas won major Republican cash cowMothma, which can't be anything but a major cash infusion for her campaign. Elsewhere,Sheldon Adelsontalked education with Rachel Maddow, and did well;Spireproved some leadership credentials on On The Record, andNegarirmockedKhanpromise to cut one government spending program a day, calling it "really dumb" and "some sort of game show thing, I don't know".Defender's
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Monday:just aren't blowing up and going viral this week, but maybe this'll be different, because as it turns out,Scandalsdeliberately avoids buying things that were Made in America. Shameful.Mothma, meanwhile, was the next contestant on Jimmy Fallon and he did well!Peanutsfundraising coup with the onion lobby hits the headlines, and positively;Abbott'stalks government spending on Colbert; and I regret to inform all that the pop stars are at it again, this time forReckoner.Negariris busy attackingGrover Norquistleadership skills in Texas (maybe that's why he needed the concert), and there's just a little bit of protesting at aNegarir'sevent.Khan
Tuesday:There's been a massive and tragic 7.5 earthquake in Hindu Kush, sharply bringing leadership ability into focus. Not much else is registering because of that news;loves to talk about education in front of crowds, apparently, andPeanutsdoes some local campaigning in Alaska, but everything else tends to wash out. Of the majorNegarir, none have blown up in the way thatscandalsdid last week, but they're still there and percolating without intensification or fade. Various people are tryinng to keep thoseDefender'salive (specifically,scandalsonReckoner,McGriddlesonNegarir, andMothmaagain onReckoner), but at best, they're just humming at the same energy level. Lastly,Negarirsurrogate takes it toDefender'sand her health care plan (a reminder: no burn units).Mothma
Wednesday:and Bill O'Reilly get on famously on the Factor, and he keeps bringing in even MORE money, so it's a good day for him.Abbottpassionately calls for greater government spending in peoples' lives, but whether anyone thinks better of him for it is up in the air.Spiremixes easily with the fine people of Nevada, who love the military to not intervene, andReckonerdoes somewhat well on The Rachel Maddow Show, promising to find savings in Defense.McGriddlesdrops her hot take on same-sex marriage (the take is: gays are people), and aSerduchkabarnstorm on energy is briefly interrupted by protesters. As forKhan, they're not getting much coverage any more, but people likescandalsandTSLare ensuring that when they do occasionally get aired, it ain't pretty forReckonerandNegarir, respectively.McGriddles
It's Wednesday morning;the Republican primary debate is tonight.
The Week That Was
I try to sum this week up and make more sense of it.
The wound may be small, but if you don't treat it, it'll fester. That's the lesson learned by some more than others this week. The mass of scandals were mostly contained, but containing is not enough, and while those scandals might've dropped off the front page fairly quickly, they still got a paragraph in the back. People likeandMothmaare suffering now because of it, despite any of the other good work they did. But, most of theDefenderfield was tained with scandal, and so it's not so much that some are losing momentum, as it is that the untainted (Republican) are gaining. The promising progress of theAbbottalmost became the antithesis in that; the momentum tracker below will show thatDemocratsandPeanutsare gaining momentum withoutSerduchkadoing the same, but the truth is that they're all within 0.1 of each other in the momentum scale. That's what good campaigning gets you, and that's what consistent campaigning gets you, not to mention proper crisis management.Reckonergain tells us two things particularly: that killing a scandal quickly is better than hoping it'll go away, as she did; and that a week is a very long time in politics, and if you use it, you can make a bad start turn into an excellent end. TheSerduchka's, overall, are proving just how fleeting and inconsequential news coverage can be: they got the headlines, but it's the ground game that's pushing them up. Just don't let a scandal fester, and don't let that momentum go to waste.Democrats
Week in Review
The news cycle strength is how good or bad your media was for the week, if you had any media at all. The ads just tell you who's producing what, and what's being targeted in each. Scandals are self-explanatory. The full picture has basically everything that happened, but unformatted, so you can cry while you read it.
Spoiler: News cycle strength
Spoiler: Ads
Spoiler: Scandals
Spoiler: The rest
Gaining momentum:Abbott,Serduchka,Peanuts
Losing momentum:Mothma,McGriddles,Defender
MAPS
Ignore McMullin. Leaders of each state are colour-coded; white states means it's too close to call. The percentage list on the right-hand side is the popular vote; the lines and segments down the bottom are PROJECTED delegates. Once delegates start being earned, that will be added separately.
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Next time, on this thing!:The Republican debate is TONIGHT. I'm probably doing a special post just for that, and then the third update of the day. But will there be more???Last edited by Drench on Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.join your union-
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Looks like I am about to reverse my momentum fortunes despite SOME PEOPLE (Abbott) thinking they can talk shit.
Poors BTFO.In post 37, Drench wrote:is ROLLING in the dough and, true to form, she wants you to know about it.TSLOfficial Gimmick List:
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The Week of October 28th
96 days until Iowa
104 days until New Hampshire
384 days until the Presidential Election
THE FIRSTREPUBLICAN PRIMARYDEBATE
October 28th, 2015
Both sides have roughly the same number of candidates, but it's clear that while the Democrats were less focused, these six came prepared. Some preparations fell flat, of course:did no favours with her provably false claim that she was, in fact, the richest woman in the world. Unlike some others we may know, she is not a good liar--TSLdidn't let her off the hook, and it exposed bothNegarirexaggeration and her utter lack of preparation on the issues. But others did not fare much better.TSL's,AbbottandDefender, while all slightly better thanKhan, were similarly woeful.TSLat least managed to claim plausible credit for the sustainability of the Mongol Empire, butKhanexpertly crafted takedown ofAbbott'sentire record as a public servant will be remembered for a very, very long time. It's a pityKhan'scouldn't use the same skills to help himself, turning in a wooden and uninspiring performance.Abbottlooked petty when he once again went afterDefenderhealth care plan, as if it were the only thing he could think about; to her credit,Mothma'sused the opportunity to weave a convincing, energetic argument for her election. It was, in the end, hers andMothmadebate. We're just not sure who was better.Negarir's
1. Negarir (8 points)
1. Mothma (8 points)
3. Khan (3 points)
4. Defender (2 points)
5. Abbott (1 point)
6. TSL (-2 points)
Headlines
The papers are released each day in the morning, and describe what happened the previous day. The first day of the cycle is a Wednesday, and the last a Tuesday, but the first newspapers are Thursday's, and the last Wednesday's.
Thursday's papers:The debate brings no good fortune to anyone as the draw settles in. In fact, there's bigger news: a $200 million runaway blimp with a 6,700ft cable is above Maryland and Pennsylvania. This is apparently a thing that happened.puts out an attack ad and it really horribly falls flat.Khangoes forDefenderhealth care policy again, whileMothma'stries to attack adNegaririnto submission. Who knows how any of that will turn out?Abbottdoes one of those dumb parlor games on Jimmy Fallon and he's okay at it, whilstMcGriddlesandKhanmake good impressions on On The Record.Negarircontinues his campaigning in Nevada, whilstReckoner, feeling the heat over her debate gaffe, tries to shift focus with a corruption-themed barnstorm. It's a messy and chaotic day after an inconclusive debate.TSL
Friday:has been elected Speaker of the House! Good job, him.Paul Ryanis busy decrying Ryan's attitudes to Social Security with known communist Colbert, whilstSerduchkaholds a very successful fundraiser.McGriddleslooks to capitalize on her drawn first with a speech tying herself toMothmaleadership, except, you know, what a dumb fucking idea, of course that backfires. It's a chat show sorta day:Paul Ryan'sdoes well on Fallon, andKhanrants about spending cuts satisfactorily on Rachel Maddow.Reckonerclaws back some ground with some nice health care rhetoric in New Hampshire, which sounds suspiciously like aTSLplatform. And the attacks continue, withDemocraticslammingReckonersoftness on immigration. Fucking bleeding heart liberals.Serduchka's
Saturday:Massive, massiveSerduchka. Multiple designer handbag manufacturers have accusedscandal, in an almost coordinated fashion, on placing massive orders of designer handbags with them and failing to pay the bill. It dominates the news, even over the ordering of fifty special ops to Syria by the Administration. That's not all:SerduchkaNegarir'sshady almost-insider-trading was revealed in spectacular fashion, as leaked documents splashed across the front page of the New York Daily News revealed significant interests in companies he voted in tax cuts for. Then again, he's ascandalous, so the tax cut thing is a bit expected. And it's not over!Republican's campaign has been forced to refund thousands of foreign donations under threat of penalty; aKhanindeed. Probably the only time anyone will care. Elsewhere,scandalrolls in the dough,Spiretakes "tough questions" on Fallon, which I assume means Fallon asked him what his favourite movie was or something, andMcGriddlesdoes a good on Meet The Press.TSLtries to fight back with some positive coverage of her speech asking why the rich deserve to keep their money, andSerduchkaand Rachel Maddow somehow agree on Social Security.Peanuts
Sunday:A Russian airliner has gone down, and a bombing is suspected. Moving on,damage control is in full flight as both she andSerduchka'stry to control herReckonernarrative. The thing is still across every channel, but it's only moderately damaging, andscandal'smanages to do well on Meet the Press, so.Serduchkagives a mildly received speech on how all countries must tremble before the might of the U.S. military immediately, andKhantries to argue that people losing jobs to free trade is Good, with bad results. More endorsements fly in, and they're kinda big:Mothmahas won the favour ofKhan, who hits the trail with no fanfare nor applause; not only doesFmr. Gov. Mitt Romneydeliver a well-received speech on Social Security and parries well on Rachel Maddow, but he also winsSpire! Can't wait to hear him on the trail, or something. Meanwhile, the twinFmr. Pres. Bill ClintonofscandalsandKhancontinue to percolate and build without pushback from the respective campaigns, which prompts the question: did they learn nothing?Negarir
Monday:continues her active damage control, and it's the only thing not ending her right now, althoughSerduchkaandPeanutsare trying hard to mitigate that. The Royals defeat the Mets, but who cares.Reckonermanages to neutralize hisNegarirand has a blisteringly good night on Fallon, who needs to get over himself with all the political guests for fucks sake, andscandaltakes some time off from trying to destroyReckonerto deliver a well-received speech on how trade is evil.Serduchkais spotted in the Palmetto State (South Carolina, and yes, I'm showing off, thank you), actually campaigning.TSL
Tuesday:Serduchkamight be the title of her next album but it's also the headline that enters its fourth straight day of being the top news story. It's slowly dying becauseScandalkeeps trying to kill it, but where she goes,Serduchkais right behind her, spinning just as hard. Speaking of him, he made an excellent speech on why America should not immediately go to countries and shoot things, had a good day in Colorado, and then immediately turned around and claimed America wasn't in debt. Can't win 'em all. Integrity being in the news,Reckonercapitalizes, holding a packed rally, barnstorming for small government in Oklahoma, and capping it off with a not-totally congruent talk on free trade with idiot in chief Jimmy Fallon. Indeed, more candidates are starting to campaign on the ground, withNegarirchasingDefenderagain on military interventionism, except now in the crucial first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa. AndAbbottfinally has some good news, making a good impression in South Carolina.MothmaStatewide and municipal elections are today.A Republican debate is in seven days.
Wednesday:Thehave a good night, and win the keys to the Kentucky Governor's Mansion. Meanwhile,Republicanshas stepped in it. After days of claiming she would pay promptly, it's been revealed she sent lawyers after the designer handbag claimants, which makes thisSerduchkavery bad indeed. Momentum is now starting to build, especially wherescandalandNegarirare concerned, to the point where they get news stories about it.TSLtakes the humanitarian but still pretty prohibitive position on immigration in South Carolina, and is showered with praise;Negarir, is the latest target of Questions Have Been Asked Over The Campaign's Negativity, and this week, the pop artists strikeMcGriddles, but in a good way.Peanutsups her activity, and does well in both talking on being prepared and Chris Matthews' Hardball, andSerduchkacomes under fire for not wanting to welcome all immigrants immediately and without delay.Spire
The Week That Was
I try to sum this week up and make more sense of it.
It's a weird week. A debate that didn't have a winner, a scandal that neither overwhelmed nor was neutralized, and candidates getting much more negative coverage than the headlines might suggest, but also a lot more momentum than the headlines suggest. Some weeks won't mean anything, but this was a week in which the race was wide open for candidates to continue defining themselves. Some, likeandNeganir, did so, for better or worse. Others, likeSerduchkaandAbbottjust shrunk into the background, even despite the latter's debate draw. There was also a lot more news this week, and some of it was buried on A22, but it still existed. Don't forget the power of those stories to still influence voters:Mothmamay have had some good stories, but he also had an active scandal and a lot of little things that don't make the front page. As such, his momentum's amongst the weakest of theKhan, and while that's nothing compared to the anemicRepublicansfield, you have to remember two things: the other party is only your enemy after you clinch the nomination; and of course, one side had a debate this week and the other did not. No wonder the momentum's imbalanced.Democratic
The Crystal Ball
Larry Sabato here, to tell you what's up.
The Republicans
1. Negarir (107 points)
2. Khan (55 points)
3. TSL (44 points)
4. Abbott (41 points)
5. Defender (35 points)
6. Mothma (28 points)
Let's be clear: right now, Negarir's doing well. But there are dangers. Khan has a superior ground game. TSL has vast amounts of cash. And his momentum could be stymied at any moment. It's not looking dire for anyone, but Defender and Mothma do need to get something going. There's only three months until Iowa.
The Democrats
1. Spire (71 points)
2. Serduchka (51 points)
3. Peanuts (47 points)
4. Reckoner (39 points)
5. McGriddles (37 points)
Don't be fooled: this is a two-tier race. It's Spire's game right now, with money, endorsements, and both a strong candidate and ground game helping him along. But one false move dooms you, and everyone else has advantages that others don't. On the Republican side, Khan was leading in the first Crystal Ball, and now he trails by fifty points, otherwise known as nearly twice the margin between 1st and 5th here.
Week in Review
The news cycle strength is how good or bad your media was for the week, if you had any media at all. The ads just tell you who's producing what, and what's being targeted in each. Scandals are self-explanatory. The full picture has basically everything that happened, but unformatted, so you can cry while you read it.
Spoiler: News cycle strength
Spoiler: Ads
Spoiler: Scandals
Spoiler: The rest
Gaining momentum:Negarir, TSL, Defender
Losing momentum:Serduchka, Peanuts, McGriddles
MAPS
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Next time, on this thing!:Another debate! Can Negarir keep it up? Is Mothma going to wake up? Are the Democrats screwed? No, yes, no, because Christ, there's literally so long to go, but there's a debate.Last edited by Drench on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.join your union-
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yes, and contested conventions if it arisesIn post 47, xRECKONERx wrote:@DRENCH: does the simulator also do vp picks and stuffjoin your union-
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