Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[Aristophanes]

Mod, please replace me.

[Aristophanes]

Look i town told my ass off and you guys weren't budging.

Why self hammer as town?

Getting to L-1 could have prompted some on your wagon to exit it. Especially if you had responded in a town like manner.

Which self hammering = not.

I'm self hammering if I get to L-1 I'm disgusted with the amount of stupidity being portrayed here. I'm not scum.

[havingfitz]

Mod, please replace me.

Or let the other mafia team shoot you?

P.edit to Ari.

It's still stupid and anti town whether it's a threat or not.

[Aristophanes]

P.edit to Ari.

It's still stupid and anti town whether it's a threat or not.

Agreed, but we should have seen it coming. He's not one to warn us about his intentions and not follow through.

[havingfitz]

But he could make threats as town or scum. So why let them impact one's actions?

[Aristophanes]

But he could make threats as town or scum. So why let them impact one's actions?

We didn't let it impact our actions, unless one of the scumteams brought him to L-1 so he would hammer.

We got him there regardless and nobody unvoted from the threat. What are you insinuating in this question? Who was impacted by the threat?

All I was saying was that we shouldn't have been surprised he self-hammered.

[Realeo]

You do understand that self-hammer is not always done by town, don't you?

[Realeo]

For instance, Majiffy @ Ari's Donner Party.

[havingfitz]

I'm not insinuating anything.

I'm not a fan of town, if he is, self hammering. But the fact he threatened to doesn't really answer my question as to why playou against one's wincon. Just annoyed if he's town. If he's scum...great.

[havingfitz]

You do understand that self-hammer is not always done by town, don't you?

Of course...I've self hammered as scum.

[Realeo]

I just find that discussion should be reserved for end game discussion, not for twilight.

[Kmd4390]

I just find that discussion should be reserved for end game discussion, not for twilight.

That's interesting...

[Realeo]

Because there is something called "preserving the morality of town"

[Aristophanes]

You do understand that self-hammer is not always done by town, don't you?

For instance, Majiffy @ Ari's Donner Party.

Oh of course! I've self hammered as well as scum. Self hammering should only be done as scum, or at a deadline crunch as town.

However, I don't see any problem with this discussion, and I thought Fitz was going somewhere with it as opposed to just annoyed theory talk.

Fitz, whose actions do you think were effected, if any, by Transcend's threat of selfhammering?

[Realeo]

Fitz, whose actions do you think were effected, if any, by Transcend's threat of selfhammering?

I support this question.

[Realeo]

I think my only surprise was that Fitz didn't vote earlier given the fact he's surprisingly being consistent with his initial read list. My mind went "Nah. Not Transcend's partner."

[havingfitz]

Fitz, whose actions do you think were effected, if any, by Transcend's threat of selfhammering?

I don't recall if anyone commented on it or not so I don't know. It obviously didn't stop me from voting him. Which was my point when you quoted his threat. I just wanted more rationale from Transcend. Annoyed or frustrated or whatever he was is no excuse if he's town. And now that he's potentially done it twice now in games I've been in with him I won't look forward to seeing him in any other games I'm in. Unless one of us is scum if course...then more power to him.

[Aristophanes]

Fitz, whose actions do you think were effected, if any, by Transcend's threat of selfhammering?

I don't recall if anyone commented on it or not so I don't know. It obviously didn't stop me from voting him. Which was my point when you quoted his threat. I just wanted more rationale from Transcend. Annoyed or frustrated or whatever he was is no excuse if he's town. And now that he's potentially done it twice now in games I've been in with him I won't look forward to seeing him in any other games I'm in. Unless one of us is scum if course...then more power to him.

But if both of you are scum?
Back to the "not looking forward to it" thing?

[havingfitz]

But if both of you are scum?

?

How's this.....as long as Transcend and I aren't the same alignment he can self hammer all he wants.

[Aristophanes]

But if both of you are scum?

?

How's this.....as long as Transcend and I aren't the same alignment he can self hammer all he wants.

So, just like in this game then?

[havingfitz]

No...any game.

[Aristophanes]

No...any game.

I'm insinuating that you two are not of the same alignment here, and thus that you should be scum if he is in fact town. It was tongue in cheek. Please try to keep up!

[Joshz]

Mod, please replace me.

scum

[Aristophanes]

Mod, please replace me.

scum

NAI

ftfy

[Joshz]

no, thats a scum sub