In other words, using logic? Just stop.In post 2368, drealmerz7 wrote:who said anything about acting like me?In post 2366, Titus wrote:And why do you think that is a problem?In post 2364, Alisae wrote:Titus you're analysis is cool an all, but there's one problem.
My wagon happened before rb's wagon and I even reached L-1.
P-edit: Drealmerz, telling me my methods are a "waste of time" won't get me to act more like you. Why do you think town are voting you? (I doubt the whole scumteam is sitting on your wagon).
I'm talking about playing the game
you're playing some other game that you like because you like numbers and patterns or something
that's not scumhunting
Large Normal 200 - Big Round Numbers - Game Over
-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
-
-
Zachstralkita Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 9286
- Joined: April 2, 2016
- Location: Demoned Away
-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
now you're flailing.In post 2374, drealmerz7 wrote:plus, it's D1 gone on too long
plus, I'm being wagoned for shit-reasons
plus, lots of bad play-
-
drealmerz7 Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 15374
- Joined: February 9, 2016
- Location: earth
balance among all things-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
Scummy != scum.In post 2376, drealmerz7 wrote:I've not played a lot with creature but I've never seen him be so scummy and yet everyone is like "yay creature!!"
Imean, I like the dude from what I can tell, seems like a nice smart cheery fella, but, it's mafia, he draws scum, and he's playing scummy
killll himmmmmm
Stop looking just at the exterior.-
-
drealmerz7 Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 15374
- Joined: February 9, 2016
- Location: earth
-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
Clarify what you mean here.In post 2398, drealmerz7 wrote:
well I think you're wrong - words aren't just charisma, holyfuck - that is you taking ALL WORDS and labeling them as 1 word that you don't value so that you can throw it all away - what the fuck?!In post 2395, Titus wrote:In post 2387, drealmerz7 wrote:
You're absolutely wrong. The words are charisma. Barring cop clears/results, the root is who values whom and why. Town functions when we get the best out everyone. The votes serve as a gun to the head, who values whom more and why.
so what does alisae's vote pattern tell you?-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
you kinda are, but I'm ignoring it right now.In post 2400, Dunnstral wrote:Hope it's not "lurking" when we've got people flooding the thread to a level I could never hope to achieve-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
Too add to this -- He ignored me when I requested his breadcrumb.In post 2401, All Alone wrote:In post 2254, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm just using my vig shot on you, I dont care if I die claiming a power role, you're a worthy shot.In post 2265, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'll self hammer at this point but lynch these slots lynched with fire after I'm dead.
SELF-HAMMERING IS NOT A TOWN VIG PLAYIn post 2275, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Remember, the those 3 pushers of my lynch, also Echo. Let's end Day 1 please.
VOTE: Gin
SELF-VOTING IS NOT A TOWN VIG PLAY
FAKECLAIM DETECTED, EVERYONE GET YOUR VOTES ON GIN
UNVOTE: Titus-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
1 just doesn't happen in practice.In post 2405, Alisae wrote:
This is wrong on so many levels.In post 2403, Dunnstral wrote:I think it will become rather apparent whether his claim is true or not over the night.
1. Vig can chose not to shoot.
2. No kill gambit.
3. Someone prevents a kill from happening either by doc or rb
2 prob. won't happen.
3 is indeed a possibility and you forgot 4) Multiball-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
No, the vig if Gin is a vig should choose his own target.In post 2410, Alisae wrote:Alright then, I forgot my vote was on Gin so I'll gladly swap off now.
VOTE: Texcat
I want to lynch this unless Gin plans on shooting this.
Also we leashing Gin or naaah.-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
Elaborate.In post 2418, drealmerz7 wrote:or we can lynch alisae
much more likely scum than SD or 80% of the playerlist!
Alisae is trying. SD isn't. And I've yet to see the full scum motivations in Alisae's posts.-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
None of them; make your own decision.In post 2420, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So, out of All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi or Texcat please tell me who'd you like me to shoot and who you think the shot would be most wasted on.
I'll take the best case I find and we'll work from there day 2 given the flips we get.
P.S. You won't convince me to shoot outside this pool of players.
I could care less if you decide to shoot me tbh.-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
How?In post 2422, Titus wrote:
I don't lynch for information.In post 2415, Alisae wrote:Titus which lynch would give you the most information?
If mine vote me, I like getting lynched if it gives a ton of information and as long as Texcat dies over night.
I use information as a starting point. SD also provides lots of info by flipping him.
Texcat gives me next to no info.-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
Speaking of VCs --In post 2430, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Yeah Jae is pretty good, but VCA is still shit. It might actually be useful in this case though with the way is mod is doing the vote counts since it helps with actually bringing context into the picture.In post 2176, Alisae wrote:
You should meet JaeReed.In post 2174, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I see a future VCA hunter in you, however VCA isn't useful until there have been a lot of flips and you can start to color code them to find patterns.
Last time I checked his VCA's were pretty on point.
This is a better presentation of your case but I still don't think AA was maliciously misrepresenting you. I just think the definition of depth is the problem and it wasn't really clarified. You do have a point about him just tunneling you all game. I'm not sure what's that about or what to make of it but it might just be his style of play. He might be the confident type in the sense that when he suspects someone is scum, he doesn't think he can be wrong and just blocks out everything until said person is lynched.In post 2189, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I voted, and why I encourage a vote towards AA is for the following reasons:
He has 16 posts in total in which, we can break down fairly simple.
Starting off, the first 5 posts were naked votes and the 6th vote was a fake "town frustration" reaction by saying on D1 he doesn't know where to put his vote, thus frustrated does not make sense on D1 and this isn't his first game either.
In his post 1001, AA goes on to say my read on Alisae as town was the only with depth to it. "This is Gin's only townread with any depth to it" (Post 1001, All Alone). Therefore, All Alone has stated that I have reasoning to town read Alisae.
Then in post 1027, AA goes on to say I never explained why I town read Alisae. This is a direct contradiction to his earlier push and shows that All Alone has changed his narrative to fit his push; some of which involves misrepresenting to get it through.
As for the rest of his posts, you'll also been keen to notice that I have been the only player he ever talks about. I've been the main contender for the lynch right now, and I can only see Scum!All Alone pushing a lynch on one player.
There is no room for town!All Alone to be tunneling one player and never interacting with anyone else.
That ladies and gentlemen is a case worth voting for.Dreal: I request you make and publish a VC history for the first 50 pages.-
-
Alisae lolbalance
- lolbalance
- lolbalance
- Posts: 47098
- Joined: October 31, 2016
- Location: Cali~ (PST)
Huh?In post 2659, Ircher wrote:
1 just doesn't happen in practice.In post 2405, Alisae wrote:
This is wrong on so many levels.In post 2403, Dunnstral wrote:I think it will become rather apparent whether his claim is true or not over the night.
1. Vig can chose not to shoot.
2. No kill gambit.
3. Someone prevents a kill from happening either by doc or rb
2 prob. won't happen.
3 is indeed a possibility andyou forgot 4) Multiball| here.GTKAS-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
How is that a scumclaim?In post 2442, Alisae wrote:
Scumclaim?In post 2440, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If Gin is real, he should shoot whoever he feels like without influence from others.-
-
Alisae lolbalance
- lolbalance
- lolbalance
- Posts: 47098
- Joined: October 31, 2016
- Location: Cali~ (PST)
if you read on basicly I don't have a real grasp of vig meta and I thought it was a scumclaim since scum may want Gin to shoot freely instead of be leashed unless they are the ones leashing them?In post 2666, Ircher wrote:
How is that a scumclaim?In post 2442, Alisae wrote:
Scumclaim?In post 2440, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If Gin is real, he should shoot whoever he feels like without influence from others.| here.GTKAS-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
you got that backwards -- lurker vs nonlurker - lurker always.In post 2448, drealmerz7 wrote:that's not sensible policy lynch on D1
sensible PL on D1 is alisae
lurker vs. non lurker on D1 - nonlurker always
And can we stop trying to PL Alisae? If you have a scumcase, great, I'd like to hear it, but let's lynch on the basis of scum, not policy.-
-
drealmerz7 Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 15374
- Joined: February 9, 2016
- Location: earth
no, not on D1In post 2668, Ircher wrote:
you got that backwards -- lurker vs nonlurker - lurker always.In post 2448, drealmerz7 wrote:that's not sensible policy lynch on D1
sensible PL on D1 is alisae
lurker vs. non lurker on D1 - nonlurker always
wtf
and the policy is : lynch scumbalance among all things-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
In post 2459, drealmerz7 wrote:pine's right actually
just because you've decreased the amount of shitposting from 90% to 30%, doesn't mean it's gone by any meansTake what you get and don't pitch a fit.-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
And make your scum!Alisae case.In post 2469, Pine wrote:
^Example of shitposting.Alisae wrote:So we got Wraith, Texcat, Pine, and Drealmerz on my wagon again.
Good shit, soon someone will just be able to lynch from on my wagon
Shitposting is defined (at least by me) as vanity posting that has little or no positive impact on the game, done in absurd quantity.
The assertion that everyone on your wagon is either pitifully naive, unbelievably arrogant, or more likely just incredibly dumb. It's completely implausible, and vigorously unproductive.
This is why I'd like to PL you.
PEdit: As she says, Titus, I've been scumreading her all game. I'll take a strong SR of my own, seasoned with shitposting and baked in PL, over a weak secondhand read. I'll hear you out though. Make or link to a case on SD, please.-
-
drealmerz7 Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 15374
- Joined: February 9, 2016
- Location: earth
dunbeenpitched
balance among all things-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
Fyi, I retract my above statement.In post 2474, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
So these are not very specific, they cite activity as AI when it's not. The facts of the matter are that sometimes some players are more busy than other players and by comparison are less active. I don't know what experience creature has with Titus but I know he has only 1 game with me and I don't post any less as scum than I do as town, I post when I have time and things to say as both alignments.In post 2354, Ircher wrote:
they arent generalization when:In post 2310, drealmerz7 wrote:
STOP with these generalizationsIn post 2281, Creature wrote:ssbm_Kyouko posts little as scum, but posts a bit more as town.
Titus posts a lot lot more as town.
everyone else, STOP LISTENING to these generalizations
1) They are very specific yet broad enough to not be too specific
2) They are backable by facts
3) They concern specific players
VCA is how some players scumhunt, deal with it
That's a weird way to voice that you think someone's scum. Instead of calling them scum you say you love your case on them and would love to talk about it, repeating love looks like a subconscious way to make yourself look more benign imoIn post 2393, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I didn't realize I didn't have a vote up, still love my case on him and I would love to talk about it.
VOTE: All Alone-
-
Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand IdeaHe / Him / His
- What A Grand Idea
- What A Grand Idea
- Posts: 15206
- Joined: November 9, 2015
- Pronoun: He / Him / His
- Location: CST/CDT
In post 2479, drealmerz7 wrote:
it works better if you push the case on why he's scum, you realize?In post 2477, Titus wrote:We're at 100 pages. Vote SD or explain why he's town. Enough petty vendetta posting.Oh wait....He already did!
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.