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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:43 pm

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I want the newbies to form reads first. Throwing out my very uncertain reads with my status as IC would most likely lead to some people blindly following me and scum being able to hide in those people. I want to see actual thought processes that might improve my reads.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 75, Pepchoninga wrote:Hello all ^^ will be reading the pages and comming up with some content ^^
Its weird that you call it content here. I don't feel like as town I produce content, that seems like something I would want to do as scum.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:36 pm

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In post 83, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 23, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
In post 18, Formerfish wrote:
In post 14, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
In post 11, Formerfish wrote:That sounds like something scum would say. You afraid to put a vote down on someone?
Im not no punk little boy on the school yard. I fought my entire life against people like you, i was fighting in a secret club beforr you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye. You wanna know where i was born boy? Huh? Well ill tell you.

Spoiler: This is your answer
Now this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air

In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said, "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.

I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said "Fresh" and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought, "Nah, forget it."
– "Yo, home to Bel-Air."

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie, "Yo home smell ya later."
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel-Air


Actually i was born in detroit but thats neither here nor there.
You going to actually answer the question? I could easily make this vote real.
Ill put a vote down.

VOTE: Down

In post 19, Formerfish wrote:I'll be around if anyone wants to engage with me/dance.

I'm Formerfish by the way, one of you resident SE's or semi-experienced players. I am here to help you through the beginning of your time here at Mafia Scum. If you have any questions shoot them my way, or to any of the SE's and the IC.
Hi, i am Jin, i am also an SE, future IC in the making, here to help you with serious answers. Feel free to ask the IC (TierShift i believe) any questions and if he doesnt jump on the question then i gladly will.
The vote seems forced.
I don't know you yet, but this is sarcasm correct?
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 85, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 28, Formerfish wrote:Jin. I am attempting to figure out your motivation in avoiding RVS. I did a quick dive into your ego search and saw that you don't always start your games this way, and that you have engaged in RVS before.

Why are you being so obstinate about RVS now? You seem like you've been around long enough to know that nonparticipation is frowned upon, and why that would be true.
I kinda don't understand why people think that refusal to participate in RVS (at least in fir ing wagons and all that) should be considered anti-town or at least THAT suspicious. People do tend to make a big deal about it, bur honestly, it is scum who want the RVS to go on as long as possible, as it gives them enough time to mash up with time and build up there mask.

I won't argue that RVS is a must in every game, since without it, it would be almost impossible to get the game truly started.
Scum hide in the fact that they are unable to be caught up in anything. If they avoid someone they can point us in that direction. If they focused on one person we can figure things out about their alignment as well. When someone chooses not to participate in RVS they deny town the ability to gain whatever information they can.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:52 pm

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In post 109, nydushermain wrote:
In post 106, TierShift wrote:pep, why aren't you voting?
Does this matter to you this early in the game?
Obviously it might since he asked. Why are you concerned with why he asked why another player wasn't voting anyone yet?
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:56 pm

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I kinda want to hang one of the replacements simply for the fact that more often than not replace outs in newbie games are scum.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:00 pm

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Formerfish I think it's odd that you've aligned yourself serveral times now as town. I feel like it's suspicious to say that you're town especially when no one else has said it so openly. Do you feel like you need to make that clarification?
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:02 pm

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Bold where I've "aligned" myself as town, since I'm not really sure what you mean.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:06 pm

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I'll do it one by one as I'm on my phone, one moment please!
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 16, Formerfish wrote:RVS is what we call the random voting stage (a subvariety of this is RQS which is the random question stage).

RVS occurs at the beginning of games and is meant to be like an ice breaker of sorts.
It's what helps us gain info as town
to make beneficial moves in lynching scum.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:08 pm

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In post 126, Formerfish wrote:
In post 75, Pepchoninga wrote:Hello all ^^ will be reading the pages and comming up with some content ^^
Its weird that you call it content here.
I don't feel like as town I produce content
, that seems like something I would want to do as scum.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:13 pm

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See, I thought that you might have been talking about that stuff. I don't really know how to answer you here. As an SE I'm here to teach as well as play. Pointing out the proper play as town is part of what I do here. Also, I don't know how to play town any other way that working off the knowledge that I am town and playing accordingly.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:17 pm

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I'd like to hear some more from Toto. Hes been very quiet for the last couple days and that seems suspicious to me. In a game like this it seems as if scum would like to coast along staying out of the limelight and he seems like hes been doing that. Does anyone else agree with that sentiment?
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:25 pm

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In post 136, Formerfish wrote:See, I thought that you might have been talking about that stuff. I don't really know how to answer you here. As an SE I'm here to teach as well as play. Pointing out the proper play as town is part of what I do here. Also, I don't know how to play town any other way that working off the knowledge that I am town and playing accordingly.
That makes sense, but I also haven't seen anyone else mention that they're town. Most of the people have jyst mentioned that other people might be scum/talking about scummy actions.

I do appreciate that you admitted that you didn't know how to answer and seem cool and collected rather than immediately going on the defense. You are an experienced player as well, so that might be playing a factor in the tone of your response.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:26 pm

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Ego search me if you want to see my scum games, they are out there.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:27 pm

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In post 137, Fykus wrote:I'd like to hear some more from Toto. Hes been very quiet for the last couple days and that seems suspicious to me. In a game like this it seems as if scum would like to coast along staying out of the limelight and he seems like hes been doing that. Does anyone else agree with that sentiment?
I agree, and I think someone else agrees as well (don't remember the name, I just remember someone posted question marks after toto voted for you). I haven't seen much else from Toto other than random votes.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:46 pm

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Okay... form reads. Moogin seems a newbie like me so mostly harmless ALTHOUGH THAT COULD be a total bluff and one of us could murder your granny with a hammer.

Formerfish seems really aggressive but I'm guessing he's just a grizzled veteran of forums mafia. He's probably a townie.
Fykus is super friendly so I'm going to have to assume he's a total serial killer irl maybe in game as well. Tiershift is a scholar and a gentleman. Nydushermain I don't know what to think. I rather like the pink checkered avatar but that's about all I know of them. Pep seems like he wants a fair game so probably a mafia member. Toto is quiet.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:48 pm

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In post 117, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 116, JackChaos wrote:I just spent the day arguing about Batman and now I think I am better prepared for this game.
You don't argue about Batman, Batman argues about you!
Oh I have the ultimate Batman argument on how Batman is probably the worst villain of all but this probably isn't the place for it.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:52 pm

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What would you like to hear from me?
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:02 pm

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Now Toto, don't be coy. There is 6 pages for you to comment on. What are you seeing? How do you feel about the replacements?
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:32 pm

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Fykus is probably scum.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:35 pm

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Are you going to elaborate on your own, or did something happen in your past were you need to be nudged along each time someone is expecting something from you.

If that is the case, I guess I can deal. However you do acknowledge the fact that Jins shit posting is counterproductive and could be seen as a confusing way of play, and you are being just as dodgy as he was to my questions.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:36 pm

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Yes
just because you get evil player role doesn't mean you are a evil person at HEART - KainTepes!!!
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:02 pm

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alright my vote goes to toto

VOTE: toto
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:04 pm

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Hi
just because you get evil player role doesn't mean you are a evil person at HEART - KainTepes!!!

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