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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:02 am

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I see the viewcount go up but no one posting to switch to Aristophanes...
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:03 am

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Because Aristophanes is Town, you numpty. I told you to make a better attack on him, but you failed. Scumteam, hang him out to dry.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:04 am

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Honestly, like I would choose pisskop.
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:59 am

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In post 998, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:First off, Pisskop was the beginning slot, he started out the game and continued the pattern of fluffing and frivolous shit posting. When he did post, there wasn't reasoning attached to it, all of them were baseless and were said to just be said.

It also doesn't help that the slot replacement, Ari can't play scum to save his life, in essence making it a suicide slot. The quotes I put in a spoiler, and really they are all his ISO, is literally no game contribution and doesn't address anyone game related.

Also a quick VCA is that scum will disperse their votes to hide in the crowd, so there will be 1/2 in the main wagons and 1/2 in a slot that's been voted once or they are the only vote. Now, looking at the babywagons that happened in D1, the beginning started with dreal and Fate.

Looking at that, Pisskop gave a weak reason which was really a hesitant question more than accusation and put his vote on dreal. The vote only moved from dreal to Fate and this occurred when Pisskop said, Fate was his top scum read, but again, there was no explanation attached to it, essentially making it a naked vote because it is knowingly implied that if you vote someone, it is because you think they are scum.

I am almost 100% confident that Pisskop has been staying off of the main wagons to avoid any serious attention and shitpost so you think to just ignore him.

VOTE: Aristophanes
This is pretty convincing, but then I'll have too many scumreads.
I also like BTD6's analysis of Mastina's WIFOM/Optimal wallpost.

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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:07 am

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Got back today, i'm about 15 pages behind. Will probably be able to finish up by tonight though

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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:09 am

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In post 1003, SirCakez wrote:
In post 998, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:First off, Pisskop was the beginning slot, he started out the game and continued the pattern of fluffing and frivolous shit posting. When he did post, there wasn't reasoning attached to it, all of them were baseless and were said to just be said.

It also doesn't help that the slot replacement, Ari can't play scum to save his life, in essence making it a suicide slot. The quotes I put in a spoiler, and really they are all his ISO, is literally no game contribution and doesn't address anyone game related.

Also a quick VCA is that scum will disperse their votes to hide in the crowd, so there will be 1/2 in the main wagons and 1/2 in a slot that's been voted once or they are the only vote. Now, looking at the babywagons that happened in D1, the beginning started with dreal and Fate.

Looking at that, Pisskop gave a weak reason which was really a hesitant question more than accusation and put his vote on dreal. The vote only moved from dreal to Fate and this occurred when Pisskop said, Fate was his top scum read, but again, there was no explanation attached to it, essentially making it a naked vote because it is knowingly implied that if you vote someone, it is because you think they are scum.

I am almost 100% confident that Pisskop has been staying off of the main wagons to avoid any serious attention and shitpost so you think to just ignore him.

VOTE: Aristophanes
This is pretty convincing, but then I'll have too many scumreads.
I also like BTD6's analysis of Mastina's WIFOM/Optimal wallpost.

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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:13 am

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So I started reading from when Nacho initially voted Mono and I'm not seeing anyone give reasons for them being scum other then "bad posts" (which is a cruddy reason) and their scumread on Fate not being good (which could be argued).
Ok now I see it. Yeah Monokuma's reason for voting Fate is pretty bad, but they're still voting in the right place. Mono having one crappy reason for a scumread is not enough to kill my townread there.
And now I'm getting into the meat of the argument and it's reminding me of myself when I sometimes get into really long-winded and stupid arguments over tiny details like how much interaction someone had with scum.

/fin

I also saw mastina's (where she said she "didn't want to" explain her Aero scumread which is total bull) which solidifies my scumread further

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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:22 am

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Cakez, realize Mastin will die to a night kill or will crumble later on, you don't have to trust Mastin to not trust me here. I don't understand how lynching Mastin, who is town as fuck, will help here.

Lynching Mastin today is moreso done out of fear than it is scum reading. I'm also not seeing as to why you are convinced about my case against Pisskop yet not willing to vote.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:37 am

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That's why she needs to go today. Attitudes like that are precisely why it's being such a struggle to get votes on her.
It's not that I'm unwilling to vote, it's that I don't want to move off Mastin.
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:44 am

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It's hard to get votes on someone that's town, no fucking shit sherlock.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:47 am

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I'm not understanding why if you agree with me, that you won't change your vote.
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:53 am

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you silly ppl still trying to figure if mastina is scum

YES MASTINA IS SCUM
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:53 am

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over and over and over

just because they keep posting doesn't mean they can get undrafted

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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:03 am

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That makes no sense
It would be harder to get votes on scum, not town
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:15 pm

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Are you saying it's harder to vote someone that's been acting scummy and has a good case on why they are scum over someone who has been showing town throughout the thread?
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:27 pm

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts

Oh would ya look at that, Ari is posting elsewhere and not on the thread bearing more proof that he's fulfilling his scum meta.

What more do you seriously need?
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:46 pm

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VOTE COUNT 1 . 10
  • Secret Agent Jin ---
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    BTD6_MAKER ---------
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
    1 ( Secret Agent Jin, )
    L- 6

    Nachomamma8 --------
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    Fate ---------------
    4 ( Aeronaut, Aristophanes, Vaxkiller, Monokuma, )
    L- 3

    drealmerz7 ---------
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    Monokuma -----------
    3 ( Nachomamma8, Fate, Prism, )
    L- 4

    mastina ------------
    3 ( drealmerz7, SirCakez, BTD6_MAKER, )
    L- 4

    Aeronaut -----------
    1 ( mastina, )
    L- 6

    Prism --------------
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    SirCakez -----------
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    Vaxkiller ----------
    0 ( )
    L- 7

    Aristophanes -------
    1 ( TheRealGin-N-Tonic, )
    L- 6


    Not Voting -
    0 ( Pine )

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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:50 pm

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In post 1014, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Are you saying it's harder to vote someone that's been acting scummy and has a good case on why they are scum over someone who has been showing town throughout the thread?
No, it will be harder to lynch someone who is constantly posting walls and is rather active then a lurker who is pretty consistently lynched as scum
In post 1015, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts

Oh would ya look at that, Ari is posting elsewhere and not on the thread bearing more proof that he's fulfilling his scum meta.

What more do you seriously need?
Ari will be very easy to lynch if he's scum, mastin will be very difficult
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:52 pm

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that is why my vote is

*puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu*

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you don't let that live past D1, ppls!

fate can go tomorrow

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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:53 pm

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In post 1015, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts

Oh would ya look at that, Ari is posting elsewhere and not on the thread bearing more proof that he's fulfilling his scum meta.

What more do you seriously need?
Careful, that's a bit too close to the ongoing games rule. It's okay to state that he's posting elsewhere, but little else. I believe this doesn't violate, but it's reeeeeally close.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:57 pm

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my HS is much more strict than that

no even mentioning that you're in other games is the standard

there should be no awareness about any other games (except completed games) within the 1 game - for all anyone knows it is everyone's only game (unless there are cross-games, but even then it is kept separate there is never any crossover reference or hint of a reference in the slightest)
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:01 pm

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I know what I said is in the rules and is allowed. Doesn't disprove a point. Now fuck all that and put it behind and vote Ari.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:01 pm

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This still doesn't go away and it's more than enough reason to vote Pisskop/Ari.
In post 998, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:First off, Pisskop was the beginning slot, he started out the game and continued the pattern of fluffing and frivolous shit posting. When he did post, there wasn't reasoning attached to it, all of them were baseless and were said to just be said.

It also doesn't help that the slot replacement, Ari can't play scum to save his life, in essence making it a suicide slot. The quotes I put in a spoiler, and really they are all his ISO, is literally no game contribution and doesn't address anyone game related.

Also a quick VCA is that scum will disperse their votes to hide in the crowd, so there will be 1/2 in the main wagons and 1/2 in a slot that's been voted once or they are the only vote. Now, looking at the babywagons that happened in D1, the beginning started with dreal and Fate.

Looking at that, Pisskop gave a weak reason which was really a hesitant question more than accusation and put his vote on dreal. The vote only moved from dreal to Fate and this occurred when Pisskop said, Fate was his top scum read, but again, there was no explanation attached to it, essentially making it a naked vote because it is knowingly implied that if you vote someone, it is because you think they are scum.

I am almost 100% confident that Pisskop has been staying off of the main wagons to avoid any serious attention and shitpost so you think to just ignore him.

VOTE: Aristophanes
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:03 pm

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In post 1017, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1014, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Are you saying it's harder to vote someone that's been acting scummy and has a good case on why they are scum over someone who has been showing town throughout the thread?
No, it will be harder to lynch someone who is constantly posting walls and is rather active then a lurker who is pretty consistently lynched as scum
In post 1015, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 9&sr=posts

Oh would ya look at that, Ari is posting elsewhere and not on the thread bearing more proof that he's fulfilling his scum meta.

What more do you seriously need?
Ari will be very easy to lynch if he's scum, mastin will be very difficult
Like you're proving it right now
You lynch scum when you got conf!scum. You're actively defending Ari's slot and it's not boding well for you.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:01 pm

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How is saying I'd rather vote a scumread who will be incredibly difficult to lynch at this rate over a lurker who lynches himself every other game defending him? Now you're just misrepping.
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