Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

You have three town: You, drealmerz, and BTD6.

This really bothers me.

[Vaxkiller]

You have three town: You, drealmerz, and BTD6.

This really bothers me.

That whole 1122 post bothers me.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

SAJ, Ari, Monkuma, and BTD6 are my lynch pool of the day

[drealmerz7]

"con's vax into voting mastina"

(since that is the only way, right mastina? - gotta love that rhetoric from mastina - subverting the influence on vax from others before it can happen)

[Vaxkiller]

@mastina
You con'd yourself with that post.

VOTE: mastina

Dreal, assuming mastina flips scum, you are likely town. Help me lynch fate tomorrow.

If she somehow flips town, your town read goes out the window, and I'm sure you will have some excuse for not voting fate.

[SirCakez]

Gin why the Fate townread?

[camn]

So, guys.. I am SO SORRY I have been so weird, and... un-hostess-like since you all woke up!
I think I put too much absinthe in my mimosa, and I have really really really been on a strange trip.
Anyway.. I am starting to get a little clearheaded.

I see we have Pine tied to the chair. Check.
I want to just unleash my punishment, but I know he has programmed his MINDLESS SERVANTS to destroy me somehow.. so we are at an impasse on that score.
I guess I can fix some drinks while you guys sort it out for me? Lets do this, though... I want answers, and daylight is burning.

VOTE COUNT 1 . 11

• Secret Agent Jin ---
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  BTD6_MAKER ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  1 ( Secret Agent Jin, )
  L- 6
  
  
  Nachomamma8 --------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  4 ( Aeronaut, Aristophanes, Monokuma, Prism, )
  L- 3
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Monokuma -----------
  2 ( Nachomamma8, Fate, )
  L- 5
  
  
  mastina ------------
  4 ( drealmerz7, SirCakez, BTD6_MAKER, Vaxkiller, )
  L- 3
  
  
  Aeronaut -----------
  1 ( mastina, )
  L- 6
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Aristophanes -------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  1 ( TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Pine )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-01-22 18:00:00)

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

My town read from Fate comes from the fact that both Mastin and Nacho thinks he's town and the attacks on him were subpar.

My logic comes from that Nacho, Fate, Mastin can't all be scum and of course I'm town reading that bloc but nonetheless, if anyone of them are town, I trust in their say on the other two because they have history with each other. If both Mastin and nacho think he's town, I'm willing to concur.

Also the attacks on him, I've never agreed with and thought were weak arguments that were shot down. That being the only 'scummy' thing the slot did, I have no reason to see them in the scumlight if there is no other scumminess to go around.

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler: Mastina's 1146

Or failing that, do Aristophanes.

When did you start scumreading me and why??

Serious time?

Serious time, because I don't have any other scumreads.

I stopped scumreading Nacho. That could be a mistake, but all the same I did in fact stop.
I stopped scumreading Fate. I 100% KNOW that's a rational mistake ESPECIALLY given the lack of a Nacho scumread and the nature of Pine's picks, but for some reason I just didn't think he was scum when Nacho wasn't scum.
I stopped scumreading TheRealGin-N-Tonic. Their start for this game was atrocious, but their content has gotten stronger and stronger as the day has gone on. I know that they could be receiving coaching, and I KNOW that TheRealGin-N-Tonic went into this game not having read my theory work but by now has read most/all of it so no fucking duh would be getting better, but the amount of improvement this game is astronomical--I don't think that's how TheRealGin-N-Tonic would improve if actually scum.
I'm not scumreading Monokuma. The case people like Nacho and Fate push against them? Thoroughly makes me go, 'meh'. I mean, they're not exactly a shining beacon of towniness, either. And I know they have a strong scumgame. I just don't see their play here as actually being scum.

BTD6's posting has gotten weaker and weaker. But I haven't been scumreading him. His early posting felt incredibly sincere and surprisingly insightful--wrong, but at least doing shit which looked like it was something good.
Vaxkiller hasn't given me strong townvibes, but he hasn't given me scumvibes, either. The content he has given has made me lean towards town more than not, and I don't see the case for him being scum.
Prism's content has also gotten weaker than their strong start, but they did in fact have a strong start. I don't see this as a scumgame from them at all.
SirCakez is scummy, but I'm not scumreading him because this isn't his scumgame. He's town. His posting is town. While there are things he says which make me cringe on occasion, he's just town. Not scum. Just town.
drealmerz doesn't have a scummy bone in his body, aside from the lackluster strength behind his push on me and some tonal problems early-on, but both of those aren't things I actually had a problem with.

You, on the other hand: pisskop did nothing to make me think he was town, and was already plummeting down my readslist prior to your entrance into the game. Your entrance was null, so it didn't worsen the read, but because the above was happening, you moved into a POE scumread. And then when you add in your catchup, you get a serious scumread.

Really? I'm a PoE scumread? I agree PK was weak AF and I may have scumread him had I not gotten this slot. My entrench was Meh, because I've been busy. I couldn't turn down this game though! The playerlist is too amazing and Pine as a Scum Treestump is hilarious! This is part of why I'm actually reading back, which is something I've grown to do minimally in order to save time (and effort) upon replacing in.

What is bad about my catchup? I don't see the issue with it at all. I mean, it's not a perfect catchup, but how does that make it scummy?

And how am I actually you're only scumread!?
That's extremely shortsighted Mastina.
I have come to expect far more from you, and I know you have as well from yourself. So what gives this game?

[Aristophanes]

Also, I had a dream about this game last night. It was literally me reading the thread and getting scumread by Gin for being too social and low Co tent. I argued his bullshit and got more votes.

Luckily, I woke up before the hammer!

[Pine]

VOTE: Aristophanes

{

mastina, Nacho

}
{dreal,

Fate

}
{Prism, SirCakez}
{Secret Agent Jin, Aeronaut}
{Vax, BTD6, Monkuma, Ari}
{}

Be more fawning.

So, guys.. I am SO SORRY I have been so weird, and... un-hostess-like since you all woke up!
I think I put too much absinthe in my mimosa, and I have really really really been on a strange trip.
Anyway.. I am starting to get a little clearheaded.

I see we have Pine tied to the chair. Check.
I want to just unleash my punishment, but I know he has programmed his MINDLESS SERVANTS to destroy me somehow.. so we are at an impasse on that score.
I guess I can fix some drinks while you guys sort it out for me? Lets do this, though... I want answers, and daylight is burning.

I'm in the mood for a whiskey sour. I know, it's a little girly, but it tastes good, okay?

Also, your knot-tying skills are trash. I got out of these like thirty seconds after they were tied. Invest more ranks in Use Rope next level.

[Aristophanes]

I'll have a Scotch if there's any around. Looking at the place, I assume there must be!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Aristophanes

Senpai Noticed Me!!! =D

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Back the fuck off my Senpine

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I am his Ginhai and no one will try to take my place

[Aristophanes]

Back the fuck off my Senpine

Oh my god, why did I not think of that!?

*bows to (Jedi?) Master Gin*

I'll still fight you for him though!

I am his Ginhai and no one will try to take my place

Nooo! Stahp! XD

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Don't you mean Obiwan Ginobi?

[Fate]

why the literal fuck is theres still a mastina wagon

If we have a multi shot vig FIRE BOMB THAT WAGON AND GAME OVER

[SirCakez]

My town read from Fate comes from the fact that both Mastin and Nacho thinks he's town and the attacks on him were subpar.

My logic comes from that Nacho, Fate, Mastin can't all be scum and of course I'm town reading that bloc but nonetheless, if anyone of them are town, I trust in their say on the other two because they have history with each other. If both Mastin and nacho think he's town, I'm willing to concur.

Also the attacks on him, I've never agreed with and thought were weak arguments that were shot down. That being the only 'scummy' thing the slot did, I have no reason to see them in the scumlight if there is no other scumminess to go around.

First bit is pretty shaky considering Mastina is scum
What attacks were sub-par on Fate? I thought they were pretty strong.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The shit you said was painful to read which, interestingly enough you say was actually good quality now

[SirCakez]

That Fate is just throwing votes wherever he can in order to try to get attention away from himself and buddy people? What's painful about that?
Granted I didn't say that specifically but that's the gist of it

[mastina]

You have three town: You, drealmerz, and BTD6.

This really bothers me.

Here's the thing about the wagons this game.
And this applies to every single wagon.
Wagon on Fate.
Wagon on me.
Wagon on Monokuma.
Wagon on you.
(I guess you could ask about an early wagon on drealmerz, too.)

Has it honestly felt like any of them were driven by scum?
Literally any of those wagons. Do they feel like they come from scum?

If you assume that the wagonees are town.
And if you assume Nacho is town.
And if you assume drealmerz is town.
And if you assume SirCakez is town.

Do you know who that leaves for possible scum on those wagons?

209, drealmerz wagon: Aeronaut/Vaxkiller/Aristophanes. (Honestly, remember how Pine said he told his scumbuddies to pile on? If there's any point in the game where they did so, this would be it.)
The mastina wagon would be town. The SirCakez wagon would be town.

324 and onward, mastina wagon: BTD6_maker is the only possible scum. (That wagon has remained identical since that VC.)

379, Nacho wagon: all town.
Gin wagon: only possible scum would be Prism.

443, Gin wagon: possible scum are Prism/Jin.
Other wagons remain as they were. (drealmerz wagon, Vaxkiller/Aristophanes. mastina wagon, BTD6_maker.)

520, Gin wagon goes to L-3. Possible scum remain Prism/Jin.

692, Fate miniwagon: Aeronaut/Aristophanes. Otherwise, wagons remain the same. (The wagons this game have been insanely stagnant, never changing.)

729, Fate wagon: Aeronaut/Aristophanes/Vaxkiller. (The same trio as the initial drealmerz wagon.) Otherwise, wagons remain unchanged. (Gin wagon: Prism/Jin. mastina wagon: BTD6_maker.)

907, Fate wagon: still Aeronaut/Aristophanes/Vaxkiller because we're assuming Monokuma is town.
Monokuma wagon: Prism. (Because we are assuming all of Nacho/Fate/you are town.) This is literally the largest shift we've had in the game: an extra vote on Fate peaking his wagon at four, and Monokuma at four. Yet neither wagon has really gone anywhere.

1156, second largest shift in the game, Fate wagon: Aeronaut/Aristophanes/Prism.
mastina wagon: BTD6_maker/Vaxkiller. (Vaxkiller having left the Fate wagon which would've been L-2 with Vaxkiller still on it.)

None of our wagons this game have actually gotten high.
And the reason for that to me is pretty self-evident: scum are laying low. Scum aren't willing to expose themselves by sheeping a town-driven wagon.

Aeronaut/Aristophanes/Vaxkiller have the worst voting history, but Jin's vote is a dead one and so is BTD6's. Prism's history isn't the best.

In the group of Aeronaut/Aristophanes/Vaxkiller, you can safely assume there's scum: 1-3. Probably two. Of them, the one most likely to be town is Vaxkiller.
In the Jin/BTD6_maker duo, Jin's literally gone six days without posting, but like pisskop and now Aristophanes, hasn't really done ANYTHING to make me townread the slot. That lurker/flaker scum would help to explain the wagon history, so I favor Jin as scum over BTD6_maker.
Prism's the wildcard there, but I don't think Prism is scum. I don't really know how to explain why I don't think Prism is scum, I simply don't.

I mean. This is D1. And Pine knows how to manipulate VCA. These aren't things you can make some objective conclusions off of. There were many assumptions made here. But the trend I'm demonstrating here isn't dependent on some arbitrary decision of "scum must have one on here and one on here". What I'm showing you is the nature of the wagons we've had this game, and the nature of the wagons we've had this game is STRONGLY indicative of scum who are deliberately avoiding making a wave with their votes. Strongly indicative of scum who are doing basically nil this game. And there are certain players I attribute that trait to more than others.

[mastina]

Really? I'm a PoE scumread?

Not anymore, no. You've been promoted to flat-out scumread.
But yes, you were. You asked me how the scumread formed; it formed from POE. Content after the scumread formed (rather, your 'content') helped solidify it.

I agree PK was weak AF and I may have scumread him had I not gotten this slot.

I realize people have forgotten the real meaning of this, throwing around diluted meanings which have forgotten the original intent. But this right here? Original Amished tell in its finest form.

And how am I actually you're only scumread!?

You're not.
I'm voting Aeronaut, who was not listed on that wall.
Secret Agent Jin is my tertiary suspect, and was not listed on that wall. (Jin, unlike the other two, remains purely a POE scumread.)

[drealmerz7]

why the literal fuck is theres still a mastina wagon

If we have a multi shot vig FIRE BOMB THAT WAGON AND GAME OVER

you're funny

2 scumwagons are the 2 CWs and you of course don't want either of them and are going STRAIGHT FOR THE TRUTH

it's great, really, but

NOT FOOLING ME

[Fate]

have you commented on my alignment yet mastina

just for the record