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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:31 pm

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Nice to know you have your priorities in order
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:34 pm

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In post 1348, Accountant wrote:
In post 1343, Annadog40 wrote:So does that mean that there is no longer a moral principle of condemning murder?
The moral principle is there, it's just been temporarily overriden by a higher principle. It will come back into full force as soon as the conflict between it and the higher principle goes away.
Then the morals are pointless. Why would you even have the morals then?
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:45 pm

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Do you believe in one of the basic ideas regarding radical freedom as presented by Sartre, namely

1. Man is not free not to choose.

Would you say that statement is true or false?
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:13 pm

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In post 1347, Accountant wrote:
In post 1344, Sesq wrote:
In post 1342, Accountant wrote:Because I do. I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
Name all the transportation milestones reached in 1943. If you know everything.
I don't claim to be omniscient. When I said everything, I meant every moral thing. I'm omniscient in the field of morality, that's why I'm able to give you every correct answer.
You still haven't answered the middle east.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:14 pm

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In post 1352, Lurker wrote:Do you believe in one of the basic ideas regarding radical freedom as presented by Sartre, namely

1. Man is not free not to choose.

Would you say that statement is true or false?
That statement is kind of weird. Sartre is saying Man is not free not to choose; ie. that humans must choose, and cannot choose not to choose.

My position: it is impossible to choose not to choose. Sartre is correct here. I think that humans are morally obligated to choose to have someone else make their choices for them. This is not the same as not choosing(which is impossible, because inaction counts as a choice). This is an active choice to follow the decisions of someone else rather than make their own choices based on their own values.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:15 pm

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In post 1353, Sesq wrote:You still haven't answered the middle east.
I have already told you the answer.

Go to everyone in the Middle East and ask them "do you want to be a citizen of utopia?"

Everyone that says no will be rounded up and sent to re-education centers.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:16 pm

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In post 1351, Annadog40 wrote:
In post 1348, Accountant wrote:
In post 1343, Annadog40 wrote:So does that mean that there is no longer a moral principle of condemning murder?
The moral principle is there, it's just been temporarily overriden by a higher principle. It will come back into full force as soon as the conflict between it and the higher principle goes away.
Then the morals are pointless. Why would you even have the morals then?
They're important because there are many situations in which they're not overriden by higher principles. In those situations, they are important to know what to do. Not everything is guided by the law, so the moral principles help you decide what to do when the law doesn't have anything to say.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:16 pm

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In post 1350, Not_Mafia wrote:Nice to know you have your priorities in order
you're goddamn right
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 1355, Accountant wrote:
In post 1353, Sesq wrote:You still haven't answered the middle east.
I have already told you the answer.

Go to everyone in the Middle East and ask them "do you want to be a citizen of utopia?"

Everyone that says no will be rounded up and sent to re-education centers.
I meant an actual solution, not what you wish would happen in your childish fantasies.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:20 pm

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In post 1358, Sesq wrote:
In post 1355, Accountant wrote:
In post 1353, Sesq wrote:You still haven't answered the middle east.
I have already told you the answer.

Go to everyone in the Middle East and ask them "do you want to be a citizen of utopia?"

Everyone that says no will be rounded up and sent to re-education centers.
I meant an actual solution, not what you wish would happen in your childish fantasies.
I provided a solution, it's not my fault if the leaders of the world are too foolish and short-sighted to carry it out.

the reason why such a situation would only happen in a childish fantasy is due to the faults of our current world leaders. Not me and not the utopia. We represent perfection - if you are too filthy to accept it, then to blame me for that would be hypocritical
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:28 pm

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In post 1359, Accountant wrote:
In post 1358, Sesq wrote:
In post 1355, Accountant wrote:
In post 1353, Sesq wrote:You still haven't answered the middle east.
I have already told you the answer.

Go to everyone in the Middle East and ask them "do you want to be a citizen of utopia?"

Everyone that says no will be rounded up and sent to re-education centers.
I meant an actual solution, not what you wish would happen in your childish fantasies.
I provided a solution, it's not my fault if the leaders of the world are too foolish and short-sighted to carry it out.

the reason why such a situation would only happen in a childish fantasy is due to the faults of our current world leaders. Not me and not the utopia. We represent perfection - if you are too filthy to accept it, then to blame me for that would be hypocritical
Have you ever considered that you aren't 100% correct about everything? You're some teenager from Singapore. Why are you the world's perfect martyr?
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:29 pm

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Because I am the only one in the world who follows the correct path. That is why.
Have you ever considered that you aren't 100% correct about everything?
I don't bother considering wrong things.
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:18 pm

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In post 1361, Accountant wrote:Because I am the only one in the world who follows the correct path. That is why.
Have you ever considered that you aren't 100% correct about everything?
I don't bother considering wrong things.
The correct path is your own path. You think you are 100% correct because potatoes, essentially.
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:16 am

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So in order to be a criminal, you gotta be convicted?
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:24 am

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No. But if you aren't convicted, nobody can call you a criminal. You become "a criminal that cannot be acknowledged as a criminal", kind of like the un-prosecutable Light Yagami.
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:28 am

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So what do we call such people?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:28 am

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Innocent.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:32 am

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Here's another way to put it. Whether or not X "actually did" Y is a question that only the courts should be concerned with. What you are concerned with is whether X "officially" did Y. What goes on unofficially is something for people like the police, courts, anti-corruption bureau etc. to deal with. As a regular citizen, your function is to condemn criminals and to uphold innocents. To do this, you must know who is a criminal. The only acceptable source of information about who is a criminal is a court, not your own mind, else you are saying your mind is superior to the court, and that is dangerous thinking.

For this reason, I always roll my eyes when people write lines like "what
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happened during JFK/911/Watergate". Unless you are addressed as Justice or Commissioner or Director, you should care less about what really happened and more about what officially happened.

This is another case where the utopia is supreme to reality.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:05 am

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i can feel the crackling of thunder come down as i make my grand debut, but there is no way i'm going through 300 pages of useless shit written by weak kids who hide behind their own words, i'm going to do this in bulk

imagine how moronic you have to be to be the person who made this thread. you are literally so weak and pathetic you felt the need to passive aggressively mock someone like a petty little shit monkey, and you don't even have the balls to face the person you're even trying to shit talk. who the
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the rest of you are just clowns who are out to prove you're right but don't actually give a fuck about whether or not you are, and my favourite part of this show is how you clumsily pretend like you don't care while praying to god nobody notices. you would be so much more willing to analyze your own components to make sure that they're not wrong if there was any substance to it, and especially willing to wield the ideas of others to see how they work so that you could seek improvement yourself. in other words, you are a fucking waste of time and space and i bet the universe itself regrets hosting you

who the fuck am i? a nobody, because a nobody is enough to make you look stupid
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:10 am

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Mods pls let this one live
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:11 am

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All the mods seem to have Accountant on ignore and might not see this, no one report him
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:18 am

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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:21 am

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In post 1368, Blinzer wrote:i can feel the crackling of thunder come down as i make my grand debut, but there is no way i'm going through 300 pages of useless shit written by weak kids who hide behind their own words, i'm going to do this in bulk

imagine how moronic you have to be to be the person who made this thread. you are literally so weak and pathetic you felt the need to passive aggressively mock someone like a petty little shit monkey, and you don't even have the balls to face the person you're even trying to shit talk. who the
fuck
would ever want to be friends with you, i can smell how dishonest your ugly ass is from 10 miles away. you completely avoid anything that could put you in a state of reasoning, it's painfully clear to the point where any retard can see the "i haven't gotten better at anything in years" stamped on your forehead


the rest of you are just clowns who are out to prove you're right but don't actually give a fuck about whether or not you are, and my favourite part of this show is how you clumsily pretend like you don't care while praying to god nobody notices. you would be so much more willing to analyze your own components to make sure that they're not wrong if there was any substance to it, and especially willing to wield the ideas of others to see how they work so that you could seek improvement yourself. in other words, you are a fucking waste of time and space and i bet the universe itself regrets hosting you

who the fuck am i? a nobody, because a nobody is enough to make you look stupid
I can't tell who's side you're on, but this post is not an argument. This is just a pathetic series of ad hominem attacks dressed up in grandiose wording. If you're against me, you're nothing more than flimsy opposition who will be crushed by the perfectness of the correct path; immune to such words. If you're for me, I condemn you strongly. Such an attitude will never bring you into utopia or allow you to impose it, thus you should correct your own mistakes before daring to correct others.
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:22 am

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In post 1371, Accountant wrote:
In post 1368, Blinzer wrote:[snip]
I can't tell who's side you're on, but this is not an argument.

i'm on my own side false prophet

you think you can go around telling people what's good when you yourself don't apply the very things you are saying

breeding your own weakness and then challenging the real deal is the easiest way to get demolished, boy
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:24 am

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