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Post Post #6525 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:29 am

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In post 6521, MagnaofIllusion wrote:The biggest danger is EP-scum not following the plan and Strongman killing you via going to the Rec Room.
This isn't a danger because in that case you and Maria would just lynch EP the next day right?
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Post Post #6526 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:35 am

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In post 6525, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 6521, MagnaofIllusion wrote:The biggest danger is EP-scum not following the plan and Strongman killing you via going to the Rec Room.
This isn't a danger because in that case you and Maria would just lynch EP the next day right?
Um yes the mitigating factors indicated that EP would not be getting away with it ....
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Post Post #6527 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:36 am

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Ok when EP checks in and shares their thoughts I'll probably be voting for UT unless anyone has any objections

I really don't see myself being convinced that he's town
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Post Post #6528 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:37 am

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In post 6524, Spiffeh wrote:UT what room were you in and was Skybird with you?
Skybird was in the Kennels with me

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Post Post #6529 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:38 am

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if we're going to lose regardless though

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Post Post #6530 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:38 am

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UT do want to even venture a guess as to who the remaining scum are?

Or like, anyone you have confident town reads?
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Post Post #6531 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:39 am

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Post Post #6532 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:39 am

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Post Post #6533 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:40 am

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I mean that doesn't really make a difference to me because if you're town we'll lose anyway :wink:
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Post Post #6534 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:41 am

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In post 6530, Spiffeh wrote:UT do want to even venture a guess as to who the remaining scum are?

Or like, anyone you have confident town reads?
why are you even bothering to ask this? if you really think I'm going to flip scum then you know I won't answer this or that my answers will be complete nonsense and WIFOM

I know lynching me ends the game, so why would I bother? if even one town player votes me then we get the quickhammer. given that Maria/MoI/you have all said you'd vote me there's a 100% chance there's gonna be a town vote on me so what's the point?
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Post Post #6535 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:43 am

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if you're town, and you actually want to win the game though

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Post Post #6536 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:43 am

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Because if you are town I'd prefer if you'd try to convince me I'm wrong

Like I'm perfectly willing to hear out anyone who thinks I'm wrong about Maria or MoI
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Post Post #6537 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:45 am

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In post 6536, Spiffeh wrote:Because if you are town I'd prefer if you'd try to convince me I'm wrong

Like I'm perfectly willing to hear out anyone who thinks I'm wrong about Maria or MoI
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Post Post #6538 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:47 am

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if everyone wants to take time to get everyone's opinions out there and is willing to hear me out sure

otherwise just end it scumfucks
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Post Post #6539 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:58 am

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i think the questions i ask myself in order are
Is UT scum? // Who would make the most sense as UT's partner? // If UT were town, who is the scum team?

My answers are.
I don't know // I don't know // I don't know.

i have significant trouble actually voting anyone alive right now, because nothing feels right. Question 2 especially, right? even if it's UT's partner. Someone is guaranteed to be playing a scumgame that is just straight up beyond how well i (and everyone else) can scumhunt. that's for sure. the thing, is that happens pretty often. that's pretty much how scum snags solo wins most of the time.

like, yeah. if UT is scum we have a night to get extra information. what if UT isn't scum? then two players out of this pool have completely fooled me. right, that's the thing. maybe this breaks like 10 rules of mathematical logic, but if one person is capable of fooling me than technically an infinite number of people are capable of fooling me. and maybe this also breaks another 10 rules but if we KNOW, for sure, that someone is playing in a way that gives you no solid scum reads. then do we lynch the "scummiest" player?

1-2 people are playing in a way that got me to townread them completely, and the only way i can be comfortable with any lynch today is if i somehow force myself to think in the next level 4th dimension and see how scum does that, and if that's cohesive with UT scum, sure. but i just dont know.

what do we do in this situation? do we just keep lynching down the line of scummy players that have flipped town?

if someone actually put a gun to my head in real life and said place a vote now.
i'd vote spiffeh. i can't give you any real evidence or anything as to why.
so yeah, thats the most concrete thing i can give you, a vote that i would never place unless threatened with irl death
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Post Post #6540 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:01 am

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and here we see the scum in its natural habitat, laying out the possibility for a bus?

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Post Post #6541 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:02 am

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that's what I was saying though. the scum have done a really great job this game

hell, I just want to self vote and give them the victory they deserve
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Post Post #6542 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:17 am

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maria is town. that's a physical law of the universe.
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Post Post #6543 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:27 am

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really wishing right now that I'd let someone else have this treestump

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Post Post #6544 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:58 am

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So reviewing Inspirational Mafia I can see some of the elements Spiffeh has pointed out about UT’s play – specifically voting scum out of nowhere.

Shotty and Lowell are his partners. He does some early distancing from Lowell but Day 3 once Shotty gets sufficient pressure UT jumps on the Shotty wagon late (vote 4 of 5) despite really having never really addressed him at all prior to that point which is the assessment of his Andy play by Spiffeh. No buddying of his partners per se. In fact in the re-read I noticed him buddying up to me in places that make me cringe now in hindsight that I didn’t twig to them.

My scan back through Defcon showed me that UT was nearly as strong with bussing SomethingSmart as I thought and didn’t really buddy nearly at all. Which actually seems to match his play here looking through his ISO.

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Post Post #6545 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:06 am

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What do you think of EP's most recent post?
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Post Post #6546 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:08 am

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~meta is trash~
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Post Post #6547 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:14 am

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In post 6542, Errantparabola wrote:maria is town. that's a physical law of the universe.
not much to think about
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Post Post #6548 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:15 am

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but if you're going to go by meta bullshit

remember that game we just finished where your analysis of votes and player interactions showed you how town I was

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Post Post #6549 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:16 am

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remember, how you and that player you vigged handing me the game both wrote longwinded analyses about how unlikely it was I was scum because of all the votes and interactions? remember that?

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