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VOTE: TheRealGinNTonic
This is my next scumread after Mastina.
Is Mastina confirmable? I do not know for sure. If Mastina is scum, it would be trivial to claim to recruit a partner. We should wait for a while until Day 2 or 3 (probably 3) and seeing if Mastina dies or not (although scum may gambit by not killing Mastina). For now, I think I will let Mastina live.
Vaxkiller, I may be willing to vote Fate but first can you please give a summary of your case on Fate?"one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714- Nachomamma8
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Earlier, you pointed out that there are several possible avenues Pine could have taken.In post 1490, mastina wrote:The biggest factor here to determine is whether Pine picked one of Fate/Nacho and they're playing a top-form scumgame, or if Pine didn't pick one of Fate/Nacho first, and they're both town.
If you are correct, one of me/Fate/you are scum; the logic for the picks you laid out doesn't make sense otherwise.
That means if we are all town, it's time to throw a good number of those assumptions out.
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Explain your scumread; don't be slippery and run away.In post 1501, BTD6_maker wrote:VOTE: TheRealGinNTonic
This is my next scumread after Mastina.
Is Mastina confirmable? I do not know for sure. If Mastina is scum, it would be trivial to claim to recruit a partner. We should wait for a while until Day 2 or 3 (probably 3) and seeing if Mastina dies or not (although scum may gambit by not killing Mastina). For now, I think I will let Mastina live.
Vaxkiller, I may be willing to vote Fate but first can you please give a summary of your case on Fate?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Claiming a partner makes the pair lovers; which means if someone catches Mastina, they both die. Alternatively, if someone catches Mastina's partner, they also both die. That's not trivial as much as it is really fucking stupid.In post 1501, BTD6_maker wrote:it would be trivial to claim to recruit a partner."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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There's something you're missing and I'm surprised that you're missing, but this is going off the rails and is 100% a post-game conversation.In post 1500, Prism wrote:I mean, it couldn't have been that blatant since I had to spoil the answer."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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BTD6 I responded within a minute; I know there's no way in hell that you just posted that and left. If you need to go, then just post a "g2g" or something similar."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I concur that it's a postgame conversation, as I said I have a tendency to opt for the personally fascinating over useful. After 7 years taking the same paths gets old, you know? I just couldn't resist that last shot.
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I did, from 1055 to 1225.In post 1503, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Explain your scumread; don't be slippery and run away.In post 1501, BTD6_maker wrote:VOTE: TheRealGinNTonic
This is my next scumread after Mastina.
Is Mastina confirmable? I do not know for sure. If Mastina is scum, it would be trivial to claim to recruit a partner. We should wait for a while until Day 2 or 3 (probably 3) and seeing if Mastina dies or not (although scum may gambit by not killing Mastina). For now, I think I will let Mastina live.
Vaxkiller, I may be willing to vote Fate but first can you please give a summary of your case on Fate?"one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714- Nachomamma8
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For example, I think that Monokuma is scum because their scumread on Fate is quite garbage and the way that they're pushing it is weird. I think that Cakez is scum because the pushes that he's trying to make lack all of that endearing conviction that I've experienced when he's tunneled me in the past."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Am I missing something? If Mastina targets someone they will become Masons, not Lovers.In post 1504, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Claiming a partner makes the pair lovers; which means if someone catches Mastina, they both die. Alternatively, if someone catches Mastina's partner, they also both die. That's not trivial as much as it is really fucking stupid.In post 1501, BTD6_maker wrote:it would be trivial to claim to recruit a partner."one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714- Nachomamma8
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Masons are confirmed town to one another.
If mastina claims someone is confirmed town to her and then we found out that they're not, then what do you think our next move would be?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Ari's scum meta is lurking and Ari replaced into this game to lurk. The chances that he is scum are high; no, they are not 100%, but Ari has a well-documented meta of lurking as scum and look he's lurking. This makes him a good choice in general.In post 1055, BTD6_maker wrote:Again, no explanation for Ari being 100% scum. Also, you claim Mastina is Town purely because she is hard to lynch. This is faulty logic and does not clear anyone. Mastina is being wagoned. Some wagons lead to a lynch; some don't. It is possible to consistently avoid lynches even with a wagon. Also, I am doubting whether what you say is actually true about Mastina. Provide evidence.In short, Ari is not confscum and this reasoning is terrible. On Day 1 we only have one guaranteed confscum, and that's Pine.
Gin's point was that Mastina is a capable scum player and thus is hard to lynch as scum; you're right that the logic he's presenting is silly logic but I don't believe that having thoughts that are silly make a player scum. I don't know if you got that "mastina is hard to lynch as scum" evidence or not but she's a strong player; look at her ISO in the scumgames she linked and you should be able to see that easily enough."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Questionable Content: Day 1, I see Aristophanes lurking. I call him 100% confirmed scum, complain about how he hasn't been lynched yet, laugh at people who aren't lynching him. He was scum.In post 1055, BTD6_maker wrote:You claimed Ari was 100% confscum. Not posting much for some time may make someone slightly more likely to be scum, but nowhere near obvscum, let alone confscum (which can generally only be attained through Cops or similar investigatives). Also, you are claiming Ari can be read entirely through meta. I doubt there is anyone who can be read instantly through meta alone. Meta may help somewhat, but it is generally weaker than actually examining posts for scummy content (not just lack of content).
1854. I say "hey guys, Aristophanes is posting a bunch, confirmed town". He was town.
No two games don't make a proper sample size but sometimes it really is that easy."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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The wagon on Mastina after she claimed mason recruiter says different.In post 1516, BTD6_maker wrote:We should in theory find out whether they are actually Town. However, chances are most people will simply trust Mastina so neither will be caught.
The people who are calling mastina scum despite mason recruiter claim says different.
If she decided to claim it as scum, it makes sense to claim it when she's widely townread and thus could get away with some cheeky nonsense like that (our very own Fate got away with it in the past!). But she's not. Paranoia is following her everywhere she goes, and thus, mason recruiter is a horrible fucking claim."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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And even if this didn't exist, itIn post 1517, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Questionable Content: Day 1, I see Aristophanes lurking. I call him 100% confirmed scum, complain about how he hasn't been lynched yet, laugh at people who aren't lynching him. He was scum.In post 1055, BTD6_maker wrote:You claimed Ari was 100% confscum. Not posting much for some time may make someone slightly more likely to be scum, but nowhere near obvscum, let alone confscum (which can generally only be attained through Cops or similar investigatives). Also, you are claiming Ari can be read entirely through meta. I doubt there is anyone who can be read instantly through meta alone. Meta may help somewhat, but it is generally weaker than actually examining posts for scummy content (not just lack of content).
1854. I say "hey guys, Aristophanes is posting a bunch, confirmed town". He was town.
No two games don't make a proper sample size but sometimes it really is that easy.stillwouldn't be alignment relevant; whether people can be read through meta or not is GAME THEORY and unless you have compelling reason to believe that Gin doesn't buy into that particular game theory then it's completely and utterly null."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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SAJ's ISO is hot garbage so I would compromise there but I'm not letting Fate get away without a fight.This is another example of the "compromise everywhere" stuff Fate is doing that I mentioned above.
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This isn't a scumtell.In post 1521, SirCakez wrote:he's vote hopped a dozen times.
This is Fate 101."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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