Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

PAGE TOP BABY GOOOOO TEAM

[Nachomamma8]

And this reaction is pretty awful.

Cakez, why was this Fate reaction awful?

[drealmerz7]

stop with that if you would please

[Aristophanes]

Alright, so from the last VC it looks like Jon, Gin, and Fate are the most viable wagons. Imma start by reading them and see if I have time left afterwards.

Ninja'd
Okay!
I can do Cakez first!

Ninja'd more. You people post like, so fucking fast!

More Ninjas.
This game takes the Cake for average post speed.

[Nachomamma8]

I'd rather have Cakez talking here then doing some lame-o reading, to be honest.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Ari, why did you choose the top 3 wagons to read about instead of thinking who you thought was scum yourself?

[Nachomamma8]

I did address your posts earlier, they suck

Fate mentions before this post:

"Fate's push on Nacho sucked"
"Fate's jumping on lurkers"

eh

[Nachomamma8]

Actually, doing better than "eh"; why did Fate's push on me suck? Why is "jumping on lurkers" a bad thing?

[Prism]

I'm too tired for this but my goal is to make a vote and pin one scum before bed. Oh, the humanity.

That's pretty poor so I'll take it.

hmmm?

I'm not going to convince you I'm mafia, even though I spent basically the last 20 pages doing exactly that. I mean as fun as it is I need to remember that I'm here to win the game not mess with/test you by doing stupid shit that no remotely intelligent/sane person would do.

[Aristophanes]

Ari, why did you choose the top 3 wagons to read about instead of thinking who you thought was scum yourself?

Because the amount of "following this thread" I've done isn't enough that I am confident in my reads. Starting with the major wagons gets me their thoughts as well as the thoughts of most people involved. It is a good place to jump off to see where it takes me.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Have you read the entire thread before the jam?

[Nachomamma8]

Ari, why did you choose the top 3 wagons to read about instead of thinking who you thought was scum yourself?

Because the amount of "following this thread" I've done isn't enough that I am confident in my reads. Starting with the major wagons gets me their thoughts as well as the thoughts of most people involved. It is a good place to jump off to see where it takes me.

Why did you think that you were going to be scumread no matter what you did?
Do you prefer answering questions over reading?

[camn]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 17

• Secret Agent Jin ---
  3 ( TheRealGin-N-Tonic, mastina, Fate, )
  L- 4
  
  
  BTD6_MAKER ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  TheRealGin-N-Tonic -
  4 ( Secret Agent Jin, Prism, BTD6_MAKER, drealmerz7, Pine )
  L- 3
  
  
  Nachomamma8 --------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Fate ---------------
  3 ( SirCakez, Aristophanes, Vaxkiller, )
  L- 4
  
  
  drealmerz7 ---------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Monokuma -----------
  1 ( Nachomamma8, )
  L- 6
  
  
  mastina ------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Aeronaut -----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Prism --------------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  SirCakez -----------
  1 ( Aeronaut, )
  L- 6
  
  
  Vaxkiller ----------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Aristophanes -------
  0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  
  Not Voting -
  1 ( Monokuma, )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to SUMMON CAMN'S WRATH
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-01-22 18:00:00)

[Nachomamma8]

I'm too tired for this but my goal is to make a vote and pin one scum before bed. Oh, the humanity.

That's pretty poor so I'll take it.

hmmm?

I'm not going to convince you I'm mafia, even though I spent basically the last 20 pages doing exactly that. I mean as fun as it is I need to remember that I'm here to win the game not mess with/test you by doing stupid shit that no remotely intelligent/sane person would do.

I might be missing obvious things here but since I'm tired: why did you say that my response was pretty "poor"?
It would probably be easier to vote scum if you spent more time searching and less time entertaining yourself >.>

[SirCakez]

And this reaction is pretty awful.

Cakez, why was this Fate reaction awful?

It was flaily. The rage was out of nowhere and looked like he was trying too hard to look invested in the Mono wagon. And then he ditched it a bit later anyway.

Actually, doing better than "eh"; why did Fate's push on me suck? Why is "jumping on lurkers" a bad thing?

It's usually scum looking for easy targets

[Aristophanes]

Have you read the entire thread before the jam?

Why do you speak in riddles (or am I just stupid right now...)? What Jam!?
And no, I have skimmed most of the pages, skipped a few because I was at least 10 behind when I jumped in today, and haven't bothered to read most spoilered things. Skimmed to the max basically.

Ari, why did you choose the top 3 wagons to read about instead of thinking who you thought was scum yourself?

Because the amount of "following this thread" I've done isn't enough that I am confident in my reads. Starting with the major wagons gets me their thoughts as well as the thoughts of most people involved. It is a good place to jump off to see where it takes me.

Why did you think that you were going to be scumread no matter what you did?
Do you prefer answering questions over reading?

I am trying to stay on top of current things while I read back. Questions help me because I don't always think critically unless I'm asked what I think about something. Often there are more opinions in my head than I realize are there, so questions and directions in which to look help me a great deal!

[Nachomamma8]

Mastina telling me to fuck off also sucks
Especially since she's supposedly town reading me.

I liked this post; if scum, it was a good way to handle a strong influx of town emotion and that's something that's difficult (for me at least) to handle on the fly.

[Nachomamma8]

Gin, Mastina, and I have talked pretty extensively for a good number of pages. We've named it a "town jam".

[SirCakez]

Aristo ISO will have to wait until tomorrow, it's pretty late and I'm on my phone

[Nachomamma8]

Gin, you still alive?

[Nachomamma8]

as in do you still have jam spirits left in you?

[Nachomamma8]

i'm fading out right now but I agree we're done with Cakez for now, want something else.

[mastina]

Spoiler: reduction

Hey.
VOTE: Nachomamma8.
Dead serious here.
I'm entering in a 1v1 with Nacho.

Like. If he flips town POWER lynch me here.

I was informed that role assignment wasn't random this game.
Pine knows me to be a stellar scum player and not quite as strong a town player, yet I wasn't one of his picks for the scumteam.
But unless I massively misunderstood the game's nature: Pine did in fact get a choice in at least ONE scumbuddy, if not all three. (Something about a draft order.)
He didn't select me.

I refuse to believe he allowed both me and Nacho to be town.
So lynch me, lynch Nacho, doesn't matter who you lynch first but Nacho is scum.
Guaranteed.

Or he just biffed hard when choosing. However, I find this 1v1 ridiculous. Likely a ploy to get rid of Nacho, then manipulate us into letting you live. Not buying it!

And honestly, if I could've had both of you, it would've made me hard as a rock.

This is probably 100% accurate

was my original rival in games, presumably the reason why I didn't actually draw scum. (Which I'm taking as a huge fucking slight against me because he knows how much I would have wanted to be his scumbuddy here.) We fought endless times in games. He, along with Nacho, was one of my first friends upon his return to the site, in spite of him consistently creaming me in games where he drew mafia and I drew town. There's dozens of games spanning YEARS of history. Not one or two. Like, more games than y'all have played your entire mafia career on mafiascum, number of games.

Fuck though, this sounds sincere...
Imma have to reread our scumthread for Inorganic Chemistry (I think it was called that, my memory sucks! Whatever awesome game that was...) because I remember something about her being genuine and/or using it to her advantage in some way...
I'll get back to you on that.

Gin could easily be scum from gamestart.

Oh lol Pine is the reason for Mastin2. That's awesome XD

Imma skim earlygame hard now. I read slowly.
Wanted a good foothold first though.

I think the simplest solution here is to just line up lynches. Lynch Nacho today. He flips town, you lynch me. I'll flip town, but then D3 you lynch Fate and 100% guarantee you, you'll have lynched scum. He flips town, then while I'm not exactly conftown, Fate is. Any and all power we have should be directed towards keeping Fate alive at that point.

Holy shit is this ever scum!!
"Let's just systematically kill off all of the most prolific players in this thread until there are none left! This seems like a grand idea!"
Like, no. We'll be in Lylo before we know it then, and have nothing to show for it. Not gonna fall for it, ScuMastina!

it's unfortunate your scum game isn't as refined, you should play more

Saying this to Mastina is actually hilarious! Like, if anyone has a refined scumgame, it's Mastina! I will lol for a while about this! XD

we clearly have 2 scum wagons going
fate and mastina
can we please consolidate on mastina first
fate tomorrow is much easier than mastina tomorrow
trust me please

If I do, it will be because I scumread them, not because you asked. Why would I trust you on a Mastina read on D1!?
I am, however, leaning in that direction already.

unless someone daycops Mastina, I'm focusing on Pisskop/Ari slot right now.

</3
Why don't you want to focus on Scum instead? It's a far better use of your time.
Ninja'd
Maybe I do like this Dreal guy...

Ya now that Ari is providing content I'm really deadset on Mastina/Fate going today

It still feels a lot moreso of a social interaction than it does him scum hunting.

It is somewhat. I interact to get myself into the game while reading. I probably won't quote/respond to many posts, but am mentally mapping my reads. The fluidity works better for me to gauge people's alignments, and the interactions make it a lot more fun being here!

Also, I've had this on my screen for, like, a half hour and while it's meh, I haven't added anything to it, so I'll just post it.

VOTE: Dreal

VOTE: drealz
Scum is calling out his buddies?

If that were the case he would flip out

vax has like 1 game with me where I was scum and he thinks he knows how I'd be
I CHANGE, I ADAPT
imagine

I don't know if this is intended, but an over the top reaction which discredits the attacker but doesn't really address the argument is rather funny, and if unintended, maybe damning?

And? I'm pretty sure that's what most of this game thinks, since it's you know, common sense.
Yep, I'm the only one who thinks we shouldn't let a game designed to fuck with us fuck with us, obviously. That's why nacho is the leading wagon, right?

Mafia exercise time. This is a really fun one, I promise you. Who here can spot the problematic nature of these two statements being placed back-to-back? There's something very glaringly obvious in here. I could tell you at any time, but I want you to think for a sec, stretch your minds, and see if you're capable of figuring it out for yourselves.

I'm fairly certain the second half of this post is sarcastic. Like, I'd bet on that. Did you not catch that or did I miss something else in my reading of it?

it says:

Hi, I'm scum! ahah!

Every post by Mastina has me thinking she

has to be scum

!
However, this is the problem. Her Scumgame is fucking

on point

, or has been every time I've run into her. Just like k know mine sucks ass and I need to stop being lurkerscum, she knows her scumgame is amazing and has no qualms telling the world! If she is scum, why is she so off her game??

For a player like Mastin, this is what makes me think she's town.

If I'm being 100% honest, you forgetting a point really makes me think you're town.

It sounds like one of the biggest bullshit reasons but you're a thorough player. If you're anything like me, you'd want to, as scum, to make sure the posts are absolutely perfect and you've made every point and there is no doubt or stone unturned that you haven't answered before it is asked. I sense the town because you're more nonchalant; as in the small mental stress of worrying about yourself and other people are not present to encourage you to make the post perfect.

This is quite interesting. Mastina sometimes will create a flaw in order for people to change their reads. It's a manipulative tool. I'm not seeing it in that way here, so I get what you're saying. If this were any other player, I'd be voting them right now, because they are showing such flaws in logic and understanding. But I know she doesn't work that way. Like, read our Scum thread from Inorganic Chemistry. She is meticulous. She exploits people's suspicions on herself and others. She is crafty AF!
I know this isn't a full or a good answer, but it's what I've got atm.

This is about the summation of Aristophanes's content. There's small bits and pieces after you could maybe consider content, but this is the section which was really considered to be the actual meat.

[Aristophanes]

I forgot about your other question Nacho. Sorry man!

I just have a feeling I've let this go too far for too long (even if it's only been a week) and I will struggle to come back from it. This along with being V/la starting, well, basically from when I go to bed until Monday, isn't gonna help a damn thing. Probably me just looking at worst case scenario. I feel like I have all these votes on me that aren't there and its weird.

Fucking ninja's!
How do you people do this!?!?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Oh yeah, I'm here but I'm focusing on Ari. It's like you're at the party and you see the quiet kid in the corner being shy cuz he doesn't know anyone. Right now I'm working with Ari and I want to break him out of his shyness and blossom if you catch my drift. That or he is a dead flower and we'll see it based on real-time interactions.