Mini Normal 1861: Musical Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[mhsmith0]

backup mod / VC spammer ego post

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Also, as a reminder, discussion of ongoing mafia games is not allowed
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30907

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Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)

ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (4)

culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive L-2 ,

massive (2)

Aj The Epic , -Grey- ,

Not Voting (4)

Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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[mhsmith0]

EBWOP CORRECTED VC (I don't have edit access to posts)

Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)

ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (5)

culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , L-1

massive (1)

Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (4)

Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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[mhsmith0]

EBWOP CORRECTED VC (I don't have edit access to posts)

Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)

ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (5)

culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , L-1

massive (1)

Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (4)

Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

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Jesus I suck. 11 alive six to lynch. Sorry for fucking that up.

[mhsmith0]

EBWOP CORRECTED VC (I don't have edit access to posts)

Votecount 2.01

I Am Innocent (1)

ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (5)

culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , L-1

massive (1)

Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (4)

Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin , Kairal ,

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

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[mhsmith0]

Votecount 2.02

I Am Innocent (1)

ShadowStep ,

Secret Agent Jin (6)

culted , I Am Innocent , Flubbernugget , massive , -Grey- , Kairal LYNCH!

massive (1)

Aj The Epic ,

Not Voting (3)

Dierfire , MiniDeathStar , Secret Agent Jin ,

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

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[mhsmith0]

Secret Agent Jin was lynched! He was

Spoiler:

alive, and is now dead (gamma didn't tell me anyone's alignment, so I don't know his flip)

Night has fallen, please stop posting in thread (I don't have mod access to lock the thread). Please PM gamma emerald your night actions, if any. Gamma will announce the night two deadline after he returns.

[mhsmith0]

mhsmith0 will be

taking care of yall until Tuesday

, as I'm going out of town

I am told that there was a lynch. Eyeballing the posts from the recent unofficial voting counts it looks like

VC 3.Final

0 - Dierfire:
0 - BlackVoid:
3 - Kairal: Culted, Aj The Epic, Flubbernugget
0 - Flubbernugget:
0 - I Am Innocent:
0 - Naomi-Tan:
0 - culted:
0 - massive:
5 (LYNCH) - Aj The Epic: Kairal, BlackVoid, I Am Innocent, Naomi-Tan, Dierfire

Not voting: massive

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

The thread is now LOCKED. STOP POSTING.

If I made a mistake, please PM me IMMEDIATELY. Otherwise thread is closed and night has fallen. Similar to last time, Gamma did not actually tell me who had what role, but since I believe I'm now actually backup mod instead of just helper, I ask that everyone PM me their alignment and role so that I know who is who. Some time after I receive PMs from EVERYONE, I will start the actual night clock.

[mhsmith0]

Update: I do not currently know everyone's role/alignment. As such, there is no flip to post and night action clock has not started.

[mhsmith0]

AJ The Epic was lynched! He was

Spoiler:

Mafia Role Cop

Night three deadline is Tuesday January 17, 12 PM PST. (expired on 2017-01-17 13:00:00)

Remember to PM me and Gamma Emerald all intended night actions.

[mhsmith0]

There has been a lynch, please stop posting

[mhsmith0]

Now let's celebrate with some terrible music!

[mhsmith0]

wrt cop/jk, I'll reference what I said postgame in 1848:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8747789

I am not a reviewer, but I would somewhat disagree. Jailkeeper and cop (even if odd night) are VERY strong roles, and scum has no power to block their actions. The game going scum-sided would have required either heavy luck (like the scum hitting town's power very early) or the 1-shot vig really blowing a shot and hitting a town PR (objectively, a 1-shot vig should more or less never be shooting night 1 barring just flagrant obvscum or a mechanically locked day 1 dipole where town picked the wrong side).


For comparisons, some other mini normal 10v3 JK/Cop games:

1445 scum win
cop/jk vs goon/goon/tracker

1559 town win
cop/jk/2-shot day gun inventor vs 2-shot strongman/role cop/goon

1589 scum win
cop/jk/1-shot day vig vs role cop/goon/goon

1707 town win
ascetic odd night cop/even night gunsmith/jk/backup role cop vs encryptor/goon/goon

1708 scum win
1-shot gunsmith/even night cop/jk/backup vs goon/1-shot tracker/goon

1715 town win
cop/doc/jk/role cop vs godfather/role cop/roleblocker

1796 scum win
cop/jk/1-shot bp vs 1-shot strongman/JOAT/goon

1838 town win
Cop/JK/2xAscetic vs Neapolitan/Goon/Goon

this one, town win
odd night cop/jk/1-shot vig vs neapolitan/1-shot strongman/goon

I'd consider this a bit more scum-favored than most of the cop/jk setups, but I'm not sure it needed all that much help. probably would be fine just by chucking the strongman or nerfing the neapolitan by making it odd night, but even as is I think it's pretty reasonably within the bounds of normal variation in balance.

cops are super strong roles, and town got two halves of a cop, meaning that it was pretty likely that they'd get at least one check with realistic odds of getting multiple ones. Probably scum should have gotten a little bit extra to compensate, but I'm not sure they needed more than, say, a 1-shot strongman or 1-shot roleblocker.