Newbie 1767 | Winter | Endgame

[Raskolnikov]

I have a feeling this is a fakeclaim.

TheBrie I think you should hammer before any PRs out themselves to CC.

You're also right in that even if it was true (it isn't), outed BP serves no utility so there's no reason not to.

[PenguinPower]

Vote Count 2.11

Sobolev Space

(4):, SensFan, Huntress, Loopdan, Raskolnikov

lucca261

(1): Sickofit1138

SensFan

(1): lucca261

Not Voting

: Sobolev Space, TheBrie
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-01-22 06:30:00)

Notes:

[SensFan]

I have a feeling this is a fakeclaim.

TheBrie I think you should hammer before any PRs out themselves to CC.

[lucca261]

Sorry for the inactivity y'all. Got sick recently and slept pretty much all day.

Claim: 1-shot BP

@lucca: glad to see you back. The stuff from Huntress I agreed with was like post 477 about Rask v Sensfan and post 329 about the townblock. Can give more examples if requested. Re: your question to SickOfIt in post 566 - what info does town get from an answer to this question?

This question can make people more sure about Sicko alignment. He said that he supports my lynch rather than yours or Sens because my flip would give more information to town. I think that he is mafia and that it's a bullshit reason. So I'm asking to him elaborate.

[Raskolnikov]

Lucca hammer her fast

we need radio silence

every reaction which isn't a hammer is claiming not-cc and therefore leaking info...

[SensFan]

Lucca hammer her fast

we need radio silence

every reaction which isn't a hammer is claiming not-cc and therefore leaking info...

Not for nothing, that comes with the assumption everyone is liable to jump through hoops to counterclaim a BP.

[Raskolnikov]

I think I understand.

Okay, I "soft" cc sobolev, though I won't say with what.

Now next person capable of hammering absolutely MUST do so.

[SensFan]

Nope. Didn't understand at all.

*sigh*

[SensFan]

Someone hammer. Salvage something out of today knowing we caught a Scum.

[lucca261]

VOTE: Sobolev

[PenguinPower]

Vote Count 2.12 - FINAL

Sobolev Space

(5):, SensFan, Huntress, Loopdan, Raskolnikov, lucca261 (LYNCH)

lucca261

(1): Sickofit1138

Not Voting

: Sobolev Space, TheBrie
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-01-22 06:30:00)

Notes:

[PenguinPower]

Day 2 Lynch

Sobolev Space,

Mafia Goon

, Lynched Day 2

Night 2 begins now and will last for 48 hours, or for (expired on 2017-01-20 19:45:00)

[PenguinPower]

Night 2

Sickofit1138,

Town Tracker

, Killed Night 2

Day 3 begins now and will last for 14 days, or for (expired on 2017-02-03 19:45:00)

[PenguinPower]

Vote Count 3.01

Not Voting

: lucca261, TheBrie, Loopdan, SensFan, Raskolnikov, Huntress
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-02-03 19:45:00)

[SensFan]

That boggles the mind.

[SensFan]

Do we want to talk through the merits of having anyone who can counterclaim Rask do so? On the off-chance that was a bus, we win. Downside is if Rask was lying.

***SINCE I APPARENTLY NEED TO SPELL STUFF OUT, PLEASE DO NOT COUNTERCLAIM ANYTHING OR EVEN THINK OF TALKING ABOUT YOUR ROLE UNTIL AND UNLESS THERE IS A CONSENSUS THAT IT MAKES SENSE.***

[Raskolnikov]

Oh hey that was a lie
It looked like you were softing so I thought I could try to CC "for you" by proxy

[Raskolnikov]

So like, if there's BP they could claim because they've already been shot and they'll be confirmed town via no CC
Doctor I'm not as sure about what's optimal there.

[SensFan]

Jesus fucking Christ. What part of that disclaimer was hard to understand?

Vote: Rask

[Raskolnikov]

But if I dont retract then real pr will out...

[Loopdan]

Doc needs to claim today, as a doc would have an inno from N1. 2/6 conftown today would be great. And if doc doesn't claim today and gets NK'd, town loses the Night 1 save info.

BP should definitely wait to for L-1 with intent before claiming. If BP is NK'd tonight town loses no info. If BP survives tonight having a conftown tomorrow is better than having a conftown today. Also a BP claim at L-1 is very unlikely to be a scum fakeclaim as it is results in a 1-for-1 with only one scum left. Likewise, scum are unlikely to CC a BP claim.

tl/dr: If you are doc you should consider claiming at some point today. If you are BP you can hold off until you are about to be lynched.

[Raskolnikov]

Well anyways

VOTE: Huntress

Seemed to try to setup associations with frederick early on yesterday, starting in 378 the moment she voted him

Also in 28 said essentially fred's entrance was scummy af but voted echo on a gut feeling

[Raskolnikov]

I would argue, if BP exists, no death n1 implies BP was hit n1 and therefore scum would already be aware of who it is, so them claiming only gives town information.

[SensFan]

I would argue, if BP exists, no death n1 implies BP was hit n1 and therefore scum would already be aware of who it is, so them claiming only gives town information.

I would argue you stop speculating. Like three pages ago.

[Raskolnikov]

I've won many games through speculation and cooperation, what do you have to show for yourself?