Newbie 1766 - Game Over

[rb]

scumteam is aero + the_end, if it's not then i actually don't care about this game and you're both absolute fuckwits for trying to act like me being low activity for irl stuff that i already mentioned + the fact that i don't explain townreads in ANY game i play (for good reason) as if either of those things are a scumtell.

anyone who legitimately has me as a top2 scumread on the basis of either or both of those things has actual brain damage

[rb]

bye, prod dodging until this shit game is over either via lynching the scum or losing by lynching me

[lucca261]

Hey End, if I voted Sofiel right now, would you vote him with me?

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preparing a big post after my re-read of the game after I get my answer.

[Aeronaut]

I townread RB on day 1, and didn't really think to revisit him again, and that was really silly of me. Looking back, he should have been all over this game and instead he's been doing the bare minimum, making weak assumptions, being uninvested, etc.

And then, he keeps going on about how I'm suddenly scum to him, because I should understand that content from me is extremely important to winning this, and though it is, he's here purposefully not explaining his reads and not explaining his positions on ssbb_Kyurou who

very well

could be possible scum candidate from his perspective.

you know what, when i mention that i'm busy IRL and that gets used as a scumtell against me - go fuck yourself.

You did the

same

thing to me. I had the flu for a week straight, and you were like "ah, Aero should KNOW that he's very needed in this game"

That's unwarrented and silly.

I would.

Ssbm is just such a strong TR for me, I can't lynch there.

Alright, I'm pretty convinced of this now.

can you please never IC a game again?

This is you slipping that you think I'm town, right?

Because if you actually thought I was scum, why couldn't this just be me being scum? You're saying here that I'm playing so badly and shouldn't be ICing, which would mean that you think I'm town playing badly.

[rb]

Whether you're town or scum it's just low

Also I didn't harp on about it and I didn't even see you mention you have the flu.

ALSO your only 2 reasons for SR'ing me are basically proven false and you're still voting me. LUL

[rb]

Oh also you're full of shit. You said on the 13th you'd be home the next day and that was the time period I was talking about, mostly today - your flu was before the 13th so yeah, not what I was referring to.

[Aeronaut]

They're not proven false;

And no, it's not low; you say around and called me out saying "Aero is scum for not contributing" and that's like, your full reasoning. You're scum because you're saying it's fine for you to be scumreading me for it, but when I try to say the same for you, *suddently* it's not a valid argument.

P-edit: I still had the flu when I was home, so I don't know what you're trying to argue.

[Aeronaut]

Your case on me is literally that I wasn't active, so you're literally trying push a lurker lynch in MYLO.

That's just silly and not what a town mindset is

[rb]

Um no, stop talking shit.

Literally no scumteam in this game makes sense except the_end + you

[Aeronaut]

Alright well, to me there is; forgive me if I find it hard to take your word for it :/

[ssbm_Kyouko]

so it's either te/aero or sofiel/aero. town!Aero wouldn't forget it's mylo and put rb at L-1, then point out it's MyLo and not unvote.

I'm posting and not hammering, rb can only be scum if I'm scum because otherwise his partner is currently bussing him to L-1 for no reason. I know I'm not scum so rb is conftown to me, this is an easy win now because rb and I are confirmed to each other tomorrow, and if scum decides to kill one of us instead of lucca who is conf to everyone, rb's or my townflip will confirm the surviving player as town. Either way we go into tomorrow in 4 way with 2 conftown and te/sofiel.

Vote Aero.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oh, well I forgot we're in MYLO.

Ugh, well either way, any scumteam I see includes RB in it, and if I'm being honest, there's no way it's not rb/ssbm. This is pretty clear scumplay.

If it's clear you can explain it so go ahead

[ssbm_Kyouko]

SSBB was Lucca's biggest scumread of the day, and that kill makes WAY more sense for him

I would have killed you N1 because rb was defending me and you're the other experienced player. Killing off the most experienced players is standard strategy in newbie games because newbies have a harder time scumhunting.

Maybe the reason TB wasn't killed when you noticed his PR crumb is because you expected someone else might have noticed it and protected him? Scum can't have a roleblocker unless Lucca is faking Tracker when he's actually cop and I don't see any reason for him to do that. 2 Goon team would know it's either JK, BP/Tracker, or Doc/Tracker. Only a BP would soft their PR that way imo, and I think players as experienced as Aero or rb would draw the same conclusion I did if they were on a 2 goon scumteam. It makes sense to aim for someone else if you think the BP is softing. That would explain why TB wasn't shot despite Aero having noticed TB's PR softing. Aero as IC would definitely take charge over the decision of who to shoot when on a team with a newbie (Sofiel/the_end), so I'm going to comb over D1 for why Aero might have wanted to shoot Lucca

[Aeronaut]

so it's either te/aero or sofiel/aero. town!Aero wouldn't forget it's mylo and put rb at L-1, then point out it's MyLo and not unvote

Um, so you're saying that scum!aero would forget? You're really trying to paint that as alignment indicitave?

And no, I'm not unvoteing, because rb and you is the only option that makes any sense; it's certainly not The-end and RB and it's certainly not RB+Sofiel. If it were you and someone else, you wouldn't be defending this lynch so hard.

[Aeronaut]

SSBB was Lucca's biggest scumread of the day, and that kill makes WAY more sense for him

I would have killed you N1 because rb was defending me and you're the other experienced player. Killing off the most experienced players is standard strategy in newbie games because newbies have a harder time scumhunting.

Maybe the reason TB wasn't killed when you noticed his PR crumb is because you expected someone else might have noticed it and protected him? Scum can't have a roleblocker unless Lucca is faking Tracker when he's actually cop and I don't see any reason for him to do that. 2 Goon team would know it's either JK, BP/Tracker, or Doc/Tracker. Only a BP would soft their PR that way imo, and I think players as experienced as Aero or rb would draw the same conclusion I did if they were on a 2 goon scumteam. It makes sense to aim for someone else if you think the BP is softing. That would explain why TB wasn't shot despite Aero having noticed TB's PR softing. Aero as IC would definitely take charge over the decision of who to shoot when on a team with a newbie (Sofiel/the_end), so I'm going to comb over D1 for why Aero might have wanted to shoot Lucca

so, like you're proving why that wouldn't be the kill if I were scum this game.

You know I saw the crumb; it makes absolutely no sense to shoot someone who I didn't think was a PR over someone that I thought was.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

30 minutes left guys.

If Friend flips Town, this is scum.

Makes sense if you're scum with Sofiel and you believe Think is BP or going to be protected

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Lucca also displayed willingness to alter his read on me during D1 while we had a very long discussion about my motives and how he was misinterpreting things. Why would I kill a towny that was reversing their SR on me?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

more specifically, my motives behind my TB vote and how he was misinterpreting how my reads were progressing

[ssbm_Kyouko]

SSBB was Lucca's biggest scumread of the day, and that kill makes WAY more sense for him

I would have killed you N1 because rb was defending me and you're the other experienced player. Killing off the most experienced players is standard strategy in newbie games because newbies have a harder time scumhunting.

Maybe the reason TB wasn't killed when you noticed his PR crumb is because you expected someone else might have noticed it and protected him? Scum can't have a roleblocker unless Lucca is faking Tracker when he's actually cop and I don't see any reason for him to do that. 2 Goon team would know it's either JK, BP/Tracker, or Doc/Tracker. Only a BP would soft their PR that way imo, and I think players as experienced as Aero or rb would draw the same conclusion I did if they were on a 2 goon scumteam. It makes sense to aim for someone else if you think the BP is softing. That would explain why TB wasn't shot despite Aero having noticed TB's PR softing. Aero as IC would definitely take charge over the decision of who to shoot when on a team with a newbie (Sofiel/the_end), so I'm going to comb over D1 for why Aero might have wanted to shoot Lucca

so, like you're proving why that wouldn't be the kill if I were scum this game

.

You know I saw the crumb; it makes absolutely no sense to shoot someone who I didn't think was a PR over someone that I thought was.

I'm proving why TB wouldn't be killed if you were scum with a newbie. I think Aero/Sofiel explains the Lucca NK attempt after rereading Lucca's D1.

[Aeronaut]

Lucca was far more of a threat to you than he was to Sofiel.

P-edit: when?

[Aeronaut]

I'm telling you that TB would be dead and gone. There is zero reason I would want to keep a crumbed PR around.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm telling you that TB would be dead and gone. There is zero reason I would want to keep a crumbed PR around.

This literally cannot be the case unless rb is currently being bussed.

[Aeronaut]

I mean you're not convincing me otherwise, because I'm extremely sure, here.

If you really think you can sway the town, go for it, but in my mind, RB refusing to talk about you or his out-of-nowhere townread on you is damning. I've watched him play, this would have been a perfect town win had he been trying at all

[Aeronaut]

I'm telling you that TB would be dead and gone. There is zero reason I would want to keep a crumbed PR around.

This literally cannot be the case unless rb is currently being bussed.

Why?

[Aeronaut]

Also, cue him coming him and saying I WAS BUSY yada yada, great, we're all busy, but he's too good to have been this wrong all game.