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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:30 pm

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In post 624, nydushermain wrote:
In post 557, -Grey- wrote:
In post 324, nydushermain wrote:Your theory falls apart slightly toto on the offchance that scenarios B) 1) and 2) are the case. If he knows that there is no roleblocker and he's scum (obv), then 50% of the role setups have no second. That means that if he claims doctor or bulletproof, he can land in the scenario where he gets the right claim in B)1) and B)2).
If he's scum fakeclaiming, the real PR would counter regardless of setup.
What I'm saying is that there are situations where there is only 1 PR. For example, there is a setup with only a cop. However, if scum fake claiming claims doctor, who counterclaims? No one because there is no real doctor but there is a cop who knows that cop + doctor is a potential situation.
Scum would first have to know there's a cop to have any confidence in attempting that fakeclaim.

If the cop is outed, there are a myriad of ways a fakeclaiming doctor gets outed.

A dead cop and living doctor results in a lynched doctor before or at MyLo because a real doctor would never be left alive by scum after the cop was dead anyway.

Now shut the fuck up about useless speculation and find scum.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:37 pm

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In post 625, -Grey- wrote:
In post 624, nydushermain wrote:
In post 557, -Grey- wrote:
In post 324, nydushermain wrote:Your theory falls apart slightly toto on the offchance that scenarios B) 1) and 2) are the case. If he knows that there is no roleblocker and he's scum (obv), then 50% of the role setups have no second. That means that if he claims doctor or bulletproof, he can land in the scenario where he gets the right claim in B)1) and B)2).
If he's scum fakeclaiming, the real PR would counter regardless of setup.
What I'm saying is that there are situations where there is only 1 PR. For example, there is a setup with only a cop. However, if scum fake claiming claims doctor, who counterclaims? No one because there is no real doctor but there is a cop who knows that cop + doctor is a potential situation.
Scum would first have to know there's a cop to have any confidence in attempting that fakeclaim.

If the cop is outed, there are a myriad of ways a fakeclaiming doctor gets outed.

A dead cop and living doctor results in a lynched doctor before or at MyLo because a real doctor would never be left alive by scum after the cop was dead anyway.

Now shut the fuck up about useless speculation and find scum.
What made you so angry? Who hurt you? The speculation was a counter to what toto was coming up with. Did you ISO me or did you actually read the game? Toto claimed that formerfish claiming an exact role outed him 100% if he's scum fake claiming. I was claiming that that's not 100% true.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:43 pm

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Setup spec is useless busywork and that annoys me.

There is no purpose to it when we don't even have any hard claims to work with, so it's a waste of time that Scum can hide in.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:45 pm

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In post 627, -Grey- wrote:Setup spec is useless busywork and that annoys me.

There is no purpose to it when we don't even have any hard claims to work with, so it's a waste of time that Scum can hide in.
Yeah but why the hostility when I was explaining to you why what you thought about my comment was wrong? Seems like an over reaction to me.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:49 pm

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In post 628, nydushermain wrote:
In post 627, -Grey- wrote:Setup spec is useless busywork and that annoys me.

There is no purpose to it when we don't even have any hard claims to work with, so it's a waste of time that Scum can hide in.
Yeah but why the hostility when I was explaining to you why what you thought about my comment was wrong? Seems like an over reaction to me.
he gets really angry whenever you suggest it is Toto / RC which is curious as hell isn't it?
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:08 pm

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In post 628, nydushermain wrote:
In post 627, -Grey- wrote:Setup spec is useless busywork and that annoys me.

There is no purpose to it when we don't even have any hard claims to work with, so it's a waste of time that Scum can hide in.
Yeah but why the hostility when I was explaining to you why what you thought about my comment was wrong? Seems like an over reaction to me.
Refer to 627.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:06 pm

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In post 629, JackChaos wrote:he gets really angry whenever you suggest it is Toto / RC which is curious as hell isn't it?
Love the desperation to cast shade, bro.

Nothing about setup spec suggests either RC or myself would be scum, because neither of our slots have claimed.

Keep plugging away, sport.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:30 pm

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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:30 pm

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Will catch up soon.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:32 am

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In post 630, -Grey- wrote:
In post 628, nydushermain wrote:
In post 627, -Grey- wrote:Setup spec is useless busywork and that annoys me.

There is no purpose to it when we don't even have any hard claims to work with, so it's a waste of time that Scum can hide in.
Yeah but why the hostility when I was explaining to you why what you thought about my comment was wrong? Seems like an over reaction to me.
Refer to 627.
I'd argue that I've done the most in terms of trying to find scum.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:18 am

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In post 634, nydushermain wrote:
In post 630, -Grey- wrote:
In post 628, nydushermain wrote:
In post 627, -Grey- wrote:Setup spec is useless busywork and that annoys me.

There is no purpose to it when we don't even have any hard claims to work with, so it's a waste of time that Scum can hide in.
Yeah but why the hostility when I was explaining to you why what you thought about my comment was wrong? Seems like an over reaction to me.
Refer to 627.
I'd argue that I've done the most in terms of trying to find scum.
I'd agree with that. I hadn't done much until recently. Finally got free time.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:50 am

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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:03 am

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In post 634, nydushermain wrote:I'd argue that I've done the most in terms of trying to find scum.
If you want me to believe that, you need to lynch scum.

Anything else can simply be scum posturing.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:04 am

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In post 635, JackChaos wrote:I'd agree with that. I hadn't done much until recently. Finally got free time.
That's right Jack, buddy players that might not see the scum motivation behind it.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:09 pm

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In post 637, -Grey- wrote:
In post 634, nydushermain wrote:I'd argue that I've done the most in terms of trying to find scum.
If you want me to believe that, you need to lynch scum.

Anything else can simply be scum posturing.
Than vote with me.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:09 pm

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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:11 pm

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In post 639, nydushermain wrote:
In post 637, -Grey- wrote:
In post 634, nydushermain wrote:I'd argue that I've done the most in terms of trying to find scum.
If you want me to believe that, you need to lynch scum.

Anything else can simply be scum posturing.
Then vote with me.
Tier? Seriously?
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:12 pm

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In post 468, nydushermain wrote:jack's catchup post was god awful and reeked of scum.
I think you should vote with
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:17 pm

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In post 468, nydushermain wrote:This is when you, TS, tried to divert attention away to moogin.
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Funny enough, I think that moogin is still leaning scum
So you think scum tried to divert attention
to
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In post 468, nydushermain wrote: This is literally just an anger vote.
No confidence in your vote.

I'll need something stronger than that to scumread Tier.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:40 pm

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Can Formerfish get prodded please
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:05 pm

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VOTE: NydusHerMain
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:39 pm

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VOTE: Moogin
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:29 pm

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Why the votes RC and fykus? I'll have fewer posts tomorrow as well, I've got a lot going on this weekend
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:20 pm

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Sorry Moogs, you know i love you. Its just that I read through the entirety of one of Tiers newbie previous games yesterday and it seems the general meta is to vote for people on the first day trying to get close to lynch to put some pressure/get some info out of the person so Im just trying to emulate that. I dont get a very scummy read from you but i could be wrong nonetheless. Plus with only a few days left of day 1 it seems like we need to pull our fingers out and make a decision on who to lynch. I know its a shitty reason/explanation but its our first game after all.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:21 pm

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also
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