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[drealmerz7]

This is what I thought your sole reason was and it's lazy. If someone looks town and they fakeclaim, lynching them on principle is not good play.

yes it is for so many reasons I don't want to get into here now

[MortFeld]

yeh they could be scums together fosho

yeah the hole in that strategy is that wraith is a strong town player down the line and we need him for later in the game and he is not NEARLY FUCKING SCUMMY AT ALL to be a lynch consideration today and the push on him is BOGUS, scum just want him dead because they fear his analytical threat

I don't consider a trade of town!Wraith lynch today for guaranteed scum!Severa lynch tomorrow a bad trade, but maybe I don't know Wraith well enough.

[EchoVision]

What Gin failed to account for is that he's revealing who is and isn't a real vig

@Zach really though, you not believing gins claim was baseless and I can only hope you're not a pr when I push you
Why were you discrediting gin and his claim?

Alright lads, I figure this is a good a time as any to mention my own investigate guilty on

Echovision

... let's lynch

Echovision

and laugh at rb

Nothing failed

Dunn, help me understand what you're doing right now.

being dumb apparently if echo is town

You're not excused.
Echo's defense checks out -and- is verifiable by Alisae.

Why are you suddenly pushing echo? Your play is survivalistic as fuck.

You latch on to no-lynch to not die. No traction. Then you latch on to slick-lynch to not die. No traction. Then you latch on to echo-lynch. You'll get on any wagon that isn't your own at this point, even though you literally said earlier 'Yeah I don't even care I'll just self-hammer!'

Town vig that wants to self-hammer doesn't say they'll self-hammer. They wait until they can self hammer, and then self-hammer.
Town vig doesn't claim at l-3/4. Town vig does all they can to keep the heat off of them and then claims at L-1 if they must.
Scum/SK does everything they can to keep a wagon off of them, and claims that they'll self-hammer if they have to but they never actually will.
Fucking lynch this.

got bored so I went back through the iso and found this stuff for you

[MortFeld]

This is what I thought your sole reason was and it's lazy. If someone looks town and they fakeclaim, lynching them on principle is not good play.

yes it is for so many reasons I don't want to get into here now

Fair enough and as I said this is my fourth game on site so I am still learning.

[Severa]

yeh they could be scums together fosho

yeah the hole in that strategy is that wraith is a strong town player down the line and we need him for later in the game and he is not NEARLY FUCKING SCUMMY AT ALL to be a lynch consideration today and the push on him is BOGUS, scum just want him dead because they fear his analytical threat

I don't consider a trade of town!Wraith lynch today for guaranteed scum!Severa lynch tomorrow a bad trade, but maybe I don't know Wraith well enough.

I am a way more valuable player to town than Wraith will ever be.

[drealmerz7]

I don't know Wraith well enough.

[drealmerz7]

I am a way more valuable player to town than Wraith will ever be.

already proven false by content

[EchoVision]

yeh they could be scums together fosho

yeah the hole in that strategy is that wraith is a strong town player down the line and we need him for later in the game and he is not NEARLY FUCKING SCUMMY AT ALL to be a lynch consideration today and the push on him is BOGUS, scum just want him dead because they fear his analytical threat

I don't consider a trade of town!Wraith lynch today for guaranteed scum!Severa lynch tomorrow a bad trade, but maybe I don't know Wraith well enough.

I am a way more valuable player to town than Wraith will ever be.

not if you turn out to flip scum

[EchoVision]

I am a way more valuable player to town than Wraith will ever be.

already proven false by content

OH GET BONED

[MortFeld]

Reading Dunn makes me think that it's site meta to play like shit to not get scumread.

[Severa]

Reading Dunn makes me think that it's site meta to play like shit to not get scumread.

It is. You either choose to be a star player and frequently have to fend off lynches and nightkills or you choose to be a headcount and lurk as scum or town and blame others for your losses.

[Severa]

I am going to make a list of 5 people. 2 of them are confirmed scum. the other 3 I don't want making it to lylo, no ifs and buts.

[MortFeld]

I am going to sleep. Goodnight lot

[drealmerz7]

Reading Dunn makes me think that it's site meta to play like shit to not get scumread.

yeah it all depends on how you wanna go at it

I personally just switch up my games so I don't get meta-read

[mhsmith0]

vc up at 4626

[Dunnstral]

Reading Dunn makes me think that it's site meta to play like shit to not get scumread.

It is. You either choose to be a star player and frequently have to fend off lynches and nightkills or you choose to be a headcount and lurk as scum or town and blame others for your losses.

YOu guys kidding? we're 4500+ posts in on day 2

[EchoVision]

I mean 2500+ is shit posting and useless shit to be fair

[Dunnstral]

Exactly.

[mhsmith0]

rb, SlickDilinger have been prodded

[SlickDilinger]

Reading Dunn makes me think that it's site meta to play like shit to not get scumread.

Yes, I've heard folks say that this is culture around here in the past.

[Severa]

Lurking probably the wrong word. Not trying to carry town.
Okay so I'm going to heavily advise the vig to vig Drealmerz7. Echovision is the obvious scumpartner and I'm not quite at 100% sure levels that he's scum

BUT

I'm at over 50% sure that he's scum, he could fit in on either team, and the fact is that if he doesn't get vigged he isn't getting lynched in the day game..
There are some really, really, really shitty town players in this game and it's not hard to see where thing are going by general reads.
Hopefully with the Wraith flip town gets their heads screwed on straight but I don't think that there will ever be a phase where Drealmers7 is lynchable, particularly without me around.
And bluntly on the sub 50% chance that he's town just based on his play thus far in the game it's no loss at all and we have confirmed scum EchoVision to pounce on tomorrow.

After that, I'd also like to make sure that SSBM doesn't make endgame. He makes more sense as not being on the Wraith scumteam but I could see it.
What I feel like happened is that SSBM figured that Wraith was scum with us and voted but then got cold feet about how much of a threat I was in general and didn't want to see the other scumteam totally destroyed and is now trying to defend them to keep scum in general in the game.
I sincerely doubt that he is actually scum WITH wraith based on their mutual play however.

I'm not going to give this 100% MUST DIE but All Alone's jump onto this wagon was in fact shitty and he's a great contender for opposing scum.

I am 100% confident in Titus&Alisae being town. They're both being really fucking frustrating to deal with but hopefully Titus eats some humble pie. Alisae is going to continue being Alisae though.
I am reasonably confident in LUV, Creature, Mortfeld, and The Rebbe being town. In hindsight I don't think scum would ever claim vig there.
I still think he's town but I'm not 100% convinced that Zachstralkita is town anymore and if Wraith/Echo flip blue and their last partner isn't found late game I would expect to find it there.

[Severa]

Slick I'm your guardian fucking angel now help me powerlynch Wraith.

[drealmerz7]

fuckoff with your vigshit

[Severa]

Fuck off with your vig shit. If you don't want to be vigged then don't play like a player who deserves to be vigged while having a scum meta of not getting lynched because people thought you were too dumb to be scum.

[Alisae]

Wait a minute...
Debi never saw rb get confirmed Innocent...
Yet he was hopping on a lot of big wagons...
That's awkward.