Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[Alisae]

If alisae filpped scum first then fro9 is definetely scum.

Yes. I would totally and blatantly buddy my scumbuddy.
Adapt.

[Alisae]

Well Pine, that's why my real father is JaeReed.
and Hi Trans.
Considering voting Pep.

As the dawn breaks over the small, bleary eyed crowd gathering to assess their losses, a booming voice rings through the courtyard.

"What mortal dares summon me?"

BAE!
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[Fro99er]

Really? I've been scum lots of times and never recall framing someone for the night1 kill. Do you have links to back up this theory?

Sure:
In BEES I was scum and framed lalaladucks: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7282883
In Frog Mafia I was the mode and watched BBT get framed: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7260711
In Pun mafia I was town and got framed: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7316643

just to name a few.

[Alisae]

I think frog could be in the other maf team now

What changed?

Cloud kill

This is a scumclaim.

Hey Jae. I think both PV and Garrybote dropped our jumping onto someone for the NK scumtell. Who are we lynching out of the two?

[gerryoat]

Several things.
-Is there anyone else in the neighborhood or would it have just been you and Cloud?
-Does anyone else claim to be neighborized?
-Mafsilver is garbage, they should use MafBlack. But that color seems fine.
-Before we end the day, we need another vig list. This can wait a bit.
-I have a few reads that are starting to adjust, but I want to hold onto those for now
-Jae please clean up your spot. I don't want to lynch you. What do you think of everyone's reads on your slot?

1.) No. It woulda been just us
2.) No, cause I'm neighborized lol
3.) Probably
4.) Yes i agree
5.)OK
6.) lol

[Fro99er]

Actually, I think I should just out something right now. Cloud neighbored me, so idk if he was trying to buddy me or what.

So your scumbuddy neighborized you to give you an excuse if Yoshi investigates you?

[gerryoat]

Their posts feel natural to me, like they are genuinely trying to figure out the game.

@gerry: Look at this post and remember that this game is multiball. What are your thoughts?

Also, I think on that wagon Kuror0 might be scum, what do you think of this post?

ok finally finished catching up. But for now I will just VOTE: clumsy
Many players are catching so we should have a nice end of the day, I have to sleep but tomorrow will post my list and ideas.

Especially after saying that he scumread me, he saw me just vote Clumsy. and the wording of it seems a bit weird. He's more worried about ending the day then finding maf

My read on the slot changed drastically.

Also, wait. Manuel wasn't I your biggest scumread? Why am I not redded in that post of yours? Unless you're implying you think i'm on a different team than them? Or did your read on me change?

You didnt start as my main SR but the restistance on your slot and your reaction to my SR paired with Peps posting being better made me rethink.
After our exchange you got better i think so i strated to rethink my read again. Also Pep got a lot worse when Iron was pressured and Pine caught my attention as well.
You arent in my TR but i dont want to lynch you right now.

gerry: fro9 opinion? he's now penguin if it helps

i second this

@PV

[gerryoat]

Actually, I think I should just out something right now. Cloud neighbored me, so idk if he was trying to buddy me or what.

So your scumbuddy neighborized you to give you an excuse if Yoshi investigates you?

LMAO. You're just thinking of any excuse. Yoshi TR me. Why the hell would I need to worry about him even checking me

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Gerrygoat

You were a strong scumread of Manuel most of the day.

So what?

Manuel was killed for a reason. What reason do you think it was?

[Alisae]

Vote: Gerrygoat

You were a strong scumread of Manuel most of the day.

So what?

Manuel was killed for a reason. What reason do you think it was?

So that you can frame Garry for the NK.

[gerryoat]

@PV i just showed you i wasnt his SR. I think you're town, but you're being weird.

[gerryoat]

either you didn't read, or you're pushing for a weird reason

[gerryoat]

idk why you guys think maf would be worried about framing someone when they are trying to kill other maf or PRs imo.

[Fro99er]

The question still stands, why does framing YOU on night1 become so important for a single scumteam in a multiball game?

Because it's working and the easiest way for said scum team to not have anyone in their team be lynched.

Yourself, Gerry, and kuror have all decided that I'm scum because of the cloud kill, and several others were already suspicious of me. It's the easiest way to build up a lynch against me, regardless from that scum team's POV if I am town or other scum.

So why you assumed they were framing a town!me is beyond me, unless you know I'm town and you are other scum.

[Alisae]

VOTE: PeregrineV
The V stands for needs more Votes.

[kuror0]

Ok just noob question here but I doubt it will be this easy. Due to the action order resolution wouldn't neighborizing be after the kills? Or does the kill always go last? If the neighborizer dies does gerry still have the PT for himself or is it closed and just in the rare case yoshi happened to check gerry last night would the resolution go first neighborized then pt cop check or first the check then the neighbor? It is mostly to gather game knowledge for future games and in the rare case gerry fucked up.

[Fro99er]

Yourself, Gerry, and kuror have all decided that I'm scum because of the cloud kill

And at least in yours and Gerry's cases it's the only reason you've gave. Kuror at least had other suspicions of me, so I give his "frog is scum because of the kill" more credibility because at least he's trying to look behind the curtain than yours and Gerry's who think i'm scum simply because of the NK.

[gerryoat]

PV makes sense tho in a sense that like. WHY would mafia worry about framing someone. They literally need to weaken the other maf team or kill a PR. If I was maf i wouldn't be worried about framing someone.

[PeregrineV]

Really? I've been scum lots of times and never recall framing someone for the night1 kill. Do you have links to back up this theory?

Sure:
In BEES I was scum and framed lalaladucks: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7282883
In Frog Mafia I was the mode and watched BBT get framed: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7260711
In Pun mafia I was town and got framed: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7316643

just to name a few.

FYI, the first 2 are links to posts where you talk about how you saw people being framed in other games, not actual links to those games.
Maybe the last will be better, but since the post you linked to looks to be the endgame, then it's prolly not night1.

[PeregrineV]

Several things.
-Is there anyone else in the neighborhood or would it have just been you and Cloud?
-Does anyone else claim to be neighborized?
-Mafsilver is garbage, they should use MafBlack. But that color seems fine.
-Before we end the day, we need another vig list. This can wait a bit.
-I have a few reads that are starting to adjust, but I want to hold onto those for now
-Jae please clean up your spot. I don't want to lynch you. What do you think of everyone's reads on your slot?

1.) No. It woulda been just us
2.) No, cause I'm neighborized lol
3.) Probably
4.) Yes i agree
5.)OK
6.) lol

Anything said by either person in therE?

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Gerrygoat

You were a strong scumread of Manuel most of the day.

So what?

Manuel was killed for a reason. What reason do you think it was?

So that you can frame Garry for the NK.

A. Why would I specifically, as scum, want to kill Gerry?
B. If I wanted him dead, why not just shoot him?
C. Are players killed only to frame other players, in your experience?

[Fro99er]

from the neighborizer wiki: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer

A Neighborizer without any Neighbors at the start of the game is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

Any players added to a Neighborhood are added at the start of the next day, regardless of whether the Neighborizer lives or not

, and their Role Name is not changed.

[gerryoat]

Several things.
-Is there anyone else in the neighborhood or would it have just been you and Cloud?
-Does anyone else claim to be neighborized?
-Mafsilver is garbage, they should use MafBlack. But that color seems fine.
-Before we end the day, we need another vig list. This can wait a bit.
-I have a few reads that are starting to adjust, but I want to hold onto those for now
-Jae please clean up your spot. I don't want to lynch you. What do you think of everyone's reads on your slot?

1.) No. It woulda been just us
2.) No, cause I'm neighborized lol
3.) Probably
4.) Yes i agree
5.)OK
6.) lol

Anything said by either person in therE?

no he's dead lol. it's just an empty PT

[PeregrineV]

@PV i just showed you i wasnt his SR. I think you're town, but you're being weird.

either you didn't read, or you're pushing for a weird reason

I'll come back to this.

idk why you guys think maf would be worried about framing someone when they are trying to kill other maf or PRs imo.

This +1

[kuror0]

The question still stands, why does framing YOU on night1 become so important for a single scumteam in a multiball game?

Yourself, Gerry, and kuror have all decided that I'm scum because of the cloud kill, and several others were already suspicious of me. It's the easiest way to build up a lynch against me, regardless from that scum team's POV if I am town or other scum.

So why you assumed they were framing a town!me is beyond me, unless you know I'm town and you are other scum.

I agree with your general idea but as I pointed out before I had a scum read on you before the night. And to counter your framing idea I have seen scum kill his main pusher to clear himself. Wrold is crazy like that. Anyways if I scumread you it has so little to do with cloud's death that we can ignore it.

p-edit: this post ignores everything that came after my last post. you guys type too fast and I have split focus.