Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[gerryoat]

no actual reasons I'm scum

LOOK HOW DEFENSIVE YOU'RE BEING BECAUSE I SAID YOU

MIGHT

BE ON THE OTHER MAF TEAM LOL. Stop having a manbaby fit already

[PeregrineV]

Wait PV do you TR me?

Not really. I don't have a read on you.

[gerryoat]

PV what's your read on Dreal btw. Don't you feel his content is different than worldplay maf?

[gerryoat]

Like there is more joking around here and no analysis. He's also just been filering imo.

Also Frogger, you said yourself you thought dreal was maf yesterday, didn't you? you just said you didnt like my reasoning.

[Alisae]

A. Just that you don't like it? You're acting like it's not a reason.
B. --
C. ??? What does that mean?

A. It's a reason that can be justified. Like how pushing a slip that isn't actually a slip for me is a scumtell. Are we getting anywhere with this? Cuz I feel like we're just going in circles.
C. Who were Clumsy's top two townreads, or should I just blatantly say who the last mason is? I don't want to say who the last mason is with Clumsy.

pedit: Ah ok so my theory was really wrong. Got ya.

[Fro99er]

Also Frogger, you said yourself you thought dreal was maf yesterday, didn't you? you just said you didnt like my reasoning.

Correct. Did I say dreal was in my town pile yet? No.

[Fro99er]

Like there is more joking around here and no analysis. He's also just been filering imo.

And how is that alignment indicative? I've seen both town and scum spam post.

[gerryoat]

Spamming is different than fillering. Fillering is just trying to fit in. and I can't really say that I've seen a post from him that looks like genuine scumhunting.

[gerryoat]

Alisae, do you still scumread me yes or no. If so, why?

[Alisae]

Yes.
You dropped one of my biggest scumtells today.

[gerryoat]

By saying that someone might be maf because of a kill? How is that possible. Talk me through it. What do I accomplish as mafia trying to frame someone.

[Alisae]

A player I respect one said the following block of text.
He got it from another player he respects.

I will ALWAYS make the point that pushing on fake slips is a scumtell, in every single game I ever play. Because it's been a very reliable tell for me. I'll let you in on a couple of my other tricks as well; being "excited" about the game when the general mood is depressed or uninterested to the point of wanting to abandon is a scumtell. Claiming an investigative PR and making a lot of content about who you're going to check the following night (especially framing it as an fos ie "For that I'm going to check YOU tonight") is a scumtell. Jumping on people for too quickly commenting on a nightkill is a scumtell. These are all things I will pretty much always points out when they happen, regardless of my alignment.

Scum love having a "justified" vote. Instinctively, they look for a vote where they can lean back on a "factual" basis. A "slip" is a perfect example. When you push on a slip, you're no longer making your own read, you're just saying A therefore B. There is no read, you're presenting it as a fact. And when the person you push flips town, you don't have to defend your "read" being wrong, you can just use that justification you built as a scape-goat. It's what scum subconsciously do ALL THE TIME. Yes, sometimes town will mistakenly think they've found a scumslip. Players like Mathblade are notorious for that kind of play. But as a general rule it's a scum tactic.

Moreso about slips, but the NK part works here as well.

[gerryoat]

That's not a fake slip. Also, I didn't even vote him, so none of that make sense.

[Alisae]

There is a NK part in there.
Find it.

[Alisae]

And the slip part isn't even about slips that are fake.
It's about slips that are not slips.

[gerryoat]

Jumping on people for too quickly commenting on a nightkill is a scumtell.

isnt that basically what you did to me? I commented on a night kill and you jumped on me for it

[JaeReed]

Several things.
-Is there anyone else in the neighborhood or would it have just been you and Cloud?
-Does anyone else claim to be neighborized?
-Mafsilver is garbage, they should use MafBlack. But that color seems fine.
-Before we end the day, we need another vig list. This can wait a bit.
-I have a few reads that are starting to adjust, but I want to hold onto those for now
-Jae please clean up your spot. I don't want to lynch you. What do you think of everyone's reads on your slot?

I haven't finished reading up broski. Can you fill me in on some stuff? I hit page 30 then ended up playing steam games >.> Then my laptop ended up overheating and I had to force restart and lost my notes. So that was annoying.

What I remember:
Ramcius was both townie and scummy in such a way I couldn't sort him
Alisae is town
gerryoat actually doing something in a large way makes me wary of him
Manuel looked like he was trying to newbtell and was scummy in other ways
Pep being known lynchbait I had noted that it'd be interesting to see how Trans reads him
Yoshi is really really really fucking scummy and I want that roped.

So now with the Manuel flip and Zach's catch up you're conftown as the other mason? which means Ramcius read is irrelevant.

What's there to clean up?

[Alisae]

You commented on it by attempting to jump onto Frogger about a NK.
Why didn't you analyze the Cloudie NK?

[Transcend]

Hi Alisae

[Alisae]

Jae here are the claims.
Yoshi claimed PT Cop
Clumsy claimed Mason.
Jaack claimed 2-Shot Vig I believe.

[Alisae]

Hi Trans

[gerryoat]

gerryoat actually doing something in a large way makes me wary of him

you make me sound useless as town. this game was exciting cause 2 maf teams lol, i've never been in one of these before

[gerryoat]

You commented on it by attempting to jump onto Frogger about a NK.
Why didn't you analyze the Cloudie NK?

False. That was me analyizing it. I wasn't jumping on anything frogger said, i was saying that he could be on the other scum team, which is in sense analysis. It's a plausible scenario. Jumping on analyzing a NK is more of "HEY WHY IS HE FOCUSING ON THE NK? WHY NOT FOCUS ON WHO IS ALIVE" that in the sense is what he was talking about in jumping on NK analysis. Or what you did by saying i scumclaimed for it.

[gerryoat]

If anything, I think people talking about framing should be looked at closer. Because if I was mafia, there is no way in hell I'm worried about framing N1 in a multiball. I think they are trying to say that to deflect.

[Alisae]

I meant the manny NK