Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[gerryoat]

Dreal's first post was a vote on alisae who said he was a mason.

Yoshi was mason hunting dreal. He wouldn't need to mason hunt as town.

Jaack is also right that it makes no sense to check someone within the vig pool. What if Jaack had shot Dreal instead of pine?

>mason hunting

>He already outed who he thought was mason yesterday.

[JaeReed]

Macro level vca suggests that both scum teams d1 had no qualms about Ali being the leading wagon and possible apathy lynch.

where?? he was never in lynch range day 1

and who are both scum teams

You mean these?

Just being one of the higher contending wagons makes her in lynch range D1. Especially when it held for so long. I feel like it's obvious.

As for the second, it's a stupid and pointless question. I'm not good enough to say "X, Y, Z are on black and A, B, C are on white" without having flips from both sides and having read the thread in full, and quite frankly people who do that are arrogant.

[gerryoat]

Catching up....

So Clumsy claimed mason? Yeah, not exactly buying it without a second partner. Even with two scumteams, they can't coordinate which mason to kill, so they could easily both end up shooting the same one, which would be a big bonus for town.

So yeah, I'd prefer the 'partner' to claim today. And I'd still prefer a Clumsy lynch.

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That being said, I'm not overly confident that town will agree with me and lynch Clumsy.
My number 2 lynch at this point would probably be drealmerz. You know how old drealmerz' alisae vote is? Post 5. Dude is coasting on reads from the beginning of the game and doesn't really seem to be making any effort to figuring anything out, excusing it with a preference for observation on D1.

As far as the yoshi wagon, I've had mixed feelings there all game. I thought that his pursuit of pepcho looked like scum trying to trip up lynchbait and his ironstove vote is pretty bad too...

But I think it's notably townie that he's concerned himself with players who were kind of off the radar like kuror and drealmerz. I feel like town are far more likely to take deeper looks at relatively ignored slots, so I'm hesitant on scumreading him because of that.

Not sure if this was addressed already but surely after this amount of time if Clumsy was fake claiming mason it'd be readily apparent. Only one of the actual Masons would have to counterclaim.

Alright nevermind. Also, I think I found Clumsy's mason.

[gerryoat]

Frogger, if he was mason hunting, he already found 2 masons from his point of view. Why would he look for more masons when there could have only been 2

[Fro99er]

>He already outed who he thought was mason yesterday.

I don't think he did.

And even if he did, ff he's scum that doesn't matter. He could be giving a fake mason outing, not really knowing who clumsy's mason partners are, and wanting to find out who.

[JaeReed]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

Also this guy is scum for the PT check on drealmerz.

It's either a fakeclaim or his real role. I don't care which but he's scum and I'll direct you to drealmerz first post in the game to prove why he would have checked him if it's a real role as scum.

Please do.

i'm also curious on this

That was me telling you to look at it. Stop being lazy and click on page one yourself. It's not hard.

[Fro99er]

Frogger, if he was mason hunting, he already found 2 masons from his point of view. Why would he look for more masons when there could have only been 2

BECAUSE HE'S SCUM

he can pretend he found out who and not actually know.

[gerryoat]

I will agree that it made no sense to check someone in the vig pool tho. That's the good point you have. But the other doesnt make sense

[Fro99er]

I will agree that it made no sense to check someone in the vig pool tho. That's the good point you have. But the other doesnt make sense

how does it not make sense if he's scum?

There's no guarantee he knew who the mason was. Why are you not looking at it from scum!Yoshi POV?

[gerryoat]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

Also this guy is scum for the PT check on drealmerz.

It's either a fakeclaim or his real role. I don't care which but he's scum and I'll direct you to drealmerz first post in the game to prove why he would have checked him if it's a real role as scum.

Please do.

i'm also curious on this

That was me telling you to look at it. Stop being lazy and click on page one yourself. It's not hard.

I thought you were talking about something else cause like... i mean clumsy scumread dreal. you can't honestly think they were masons together.

[BigYoshiFan]

VOTE: alisae

not RVS

So I supposedly checked drealmerz because of this vote for someone else who claimed mason in the second post of the game because I am scum hunting for masons...

[Fro99er]

i mean clumsy scumread dreal. you can't honestly think they were masons together.

I concede this point

[gerryoat]

Wait it might have been frogger who scumread dreal. either way, i dont see that being a serious case. but yoshi, why did you check someone in the vig pool?

[Fro99er]

I was flip floppy on dreal. I thought I remembered clumsy scumreading dreal too.

[BigYoshiFan]

I didn't like him, and I thought it would be more valuable information. Didn't really think of the risk, even though I knew it was there.

[gerryoat]

I thought so too, but i can't find it, but i quick skimmed cause im about to leave for a sec. brb. if you can find it, quote it please

[JaeReed]

Alisae - [4] drealmerz7, Ramcius, Indigo, BigYoshiFan

So: Dreal who you think is town based on the yoshi scumread, Mason, Elena who is voting your wagon, BYF

What's wrong with this wagon fypov Jae?

I have not once said anything about the micro level composition of the wagon and quite frankly you're bad for trying to make it about that.

I have stated my thoughts on the macro level as clearly as I can. If you don't get it, reread it until you understand the difference.

[Alisae]

Conspiracy: Yoshi didn't check drealmerz.

[BigYoshiFan]

Conspiracy: Yoshi didn't check drealmerz.

Can we lynch this now?

[Alisae]

Yoshi you're just whining about how my lynch isn't going through. You're not actually making a single tad bit of effort to push my lynch.

[Alisae]

Also I'm getting the feeling I hit the nail on the head with your response to my conspiracy.

[BigYoshiFan]

Did anyone question my choice when I revealed it?

[Alisae]

Hey guyz.
I've been doubting Yoshi's claim and he's on my wagon.
I wonder why that is.
OH WAIT!
He's scum.

pedit: They don't question it when it happened so what. We're questioning it now and that's what matters.

[BigYoshiFan]

Hey guyz.
I've been doubting Yoshi's claim and he's on my wagon.
I wonder why that is.
OH WAIT!
He's scum.

pedit: They don't question it when it happened so what. We're questioning it now and that's what matters.

If no one decided to question my choice (even after Jaack mentioned doubts about it) until now, then it looks like a convenient excuse to try and throw shade.

[Fro99er]

No, your questioning the questioning looks like a convenient excuse to throw shade at those asking legitimate questions.