In post 1599, Shaziro wrote:Nope, it's correct. Provably correct too, unlike your claims of superiority which rely entirely on begging the question. You do know that if anyone is actually going to listen to you, you're going to have to learn basic rules of logic and follow them, right?
It's incorrect, I'm afraid. No amount of saying that it is will make it correcy.
And I disagree. I've disregarded the basic rules of logic, and people are still coming into this thread to hear what I have to say. eagerSnake has even bent the knee already.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1599, Shaziro wrote:Then why the hell do you bother people in the real world, exactly?
I want to help you all become better people. It's for your own good.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1599, Shaziro wrote:Nope, it's correct. Provably correct too, unlike your claims of superiority which rely entirely on begging the question. You do know that if anyone is actually going to listen to you, you're going to have to learn basic rules of logic and follow them, right?
It's incorrect, I'm afraid. No amount of saying that it is will make it correcy.
And I disagree. I've disregarded the basic rules of logic, and people are still coming into this thread to hear what I have to say. eagerSnake has even bent the knee already.
A: No, it's provable correct not by claim but by the fact that you bleed and sleep and eat and shit and all the other things humans do, plus your DNA is human.
B: People come here to question you and poke holes in your logic and delve deeper into the madness that is your little religion. Do you seriously think anyone is actually "converting"?
C: EagerSnake is pretty obviously making fun of you directly to your face, bud. He's not even trying to be helpful or explanatory, he's claiming that he's your new leader because he says so and that he's more perfect than you in an imitation of what you do elsewhere. Why do you think he's talking about re-educating you? For somebody who is so incredibly paranoid that people are plotting and making fun of you, how do you miss it when it's blatant and in your face?
In post 1599, Shaziro wrote:Then why the hell do you bother people in the real world, exactly?
I want to help you all become better people. It's for your own good.
Why waste your time on people who aren't interested, instead of going elsewhere and finding people who -are- interested? Spending a year and gaining no converts is worse than spending a year and gaining 10 or whatever.
In post 1602, Shaziro wrote:C: EagerSnake is pretty obviously making fun of you directly to your face, bud. He's not even trying to be helpful or explanatory, he's claiming that he's your new leader because he says so and that he's more perfect than you in an imitation of what you do elsewhere. Why do you think he's talking about re-educating you? For somebody who is so incredibly paranoid that people are plotting and making fun of you, how do you miss it when it's blatant and in your face?
I don't know where you come from, but over here when you copy what someone else does it's because you think what they do is good(eg. people modelling themselves after Lee Kuan Yew)
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1587, Davsto wrote:I never understood the phrase "have your cake and eat it too"
Like, in what world would someone have a cake and then
not
eat it?
Well typically the idea is that they like the idea of having a big cake that they can eat whenever they want, but once they eat it, it's gone, and so is that idea of the cake that they have for whenever they want. Similar problem to things like Ether. "There's a limited amount of this stuff and it's really useful, so though I want to use it, I need to save it for when I really need it". Having your Ether and using it too would be being able to use the Ether and still have it in your bag if you need it later. Make sense, or should I try a non-RPG metaphor?
I get it now, it just seems like weirdly clunky wording
In post 1602, Shaziro wrote:C: EagerSnake is pretty obviously making fun of you directly to your face, bud. He's not even trying to be helpful or explanatory, he's claiming that he's your new leader because he says so and that he's more perfect than you in an imitation of what you do elsewhere. Why do you think he's talking about re-educating you? For somebody who is so incredibly paranoid that people are plotting and making fun of you, how do you miss it when it's blatant and in your face?
I don't know where you come from, but over here when you copy what someone else does it's because you think what they do is good(eg. people modelling themselves after Lee Kuan Yew)
Ever heard of a parody, Accountant? Movies like "Vampires Suck"? Where they take a movie and make fun of everything in it by mimicing it but in a comical or exaggerated fashion?
In post 1587, Davsto wrote:I never understood the phrase "have your cake and eat it too"
Like, in what world would someone have a cake and then
not
eat it?
Well typically the idea is that they like the idea of having a big cake that they can eat whenever they want, but once they eat it, it's gone, and so is that idea of the cake that they have for whenever they want. Similar problem to things like Ether. "There's a limited amount of this stuff and it's really useful, so though I want to use it, I need to save it for when I really need it". Having your Ether and using it too would be being able to use the Ether and still have it in your bag if you need it later. Make sense, or should I try a non-RPG metaphor?
I get it now, it just seems like weirdly clunky wording
I mean, that's what you get when something gets repeated over and over as time goes on. It's a saying designed by a committee basically.
In post 1602, Shaziro wrote:B: People come here to question you and poke holes in your logic and delve deeper into the madness that is your little religion. Do you seriously think anyone is actually "converting"?
Yes.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1602, Shaziro wrote:A: No, it's provable correct not by claim but by the fact that you bleed and sleep and eat and shit and all the other things humans do, plus your DNA is human.
I don't. My body does, but I don't. You can see the difference by running a thought experiment where I'm transferred to the body of a robot.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1606, Shaziro wrote:Ever heard of a parody, Accountant? Movies like "Vampires Suck"? Where they take a movie and make fun of everything in it by mimicing it but in a comical or exaggerated fashion?
But eagerSnake did not exaggerate my behavior. He behaved exactly like me, without any exaggeration.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1602, Shaziro wrote:B: People come here to question you and poke holes in your logic and delve deeper into the madness that is your little religion. Do you seriously think anyone is actually "converting"?
Yes.
I feel bad for you then, tbh. I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
In post 1602, Shaziro wrote:A: No, it's provable correct not by claim but by the fact that you bleed and sleep and eat and shit and all the other things humans do, plus your DNA is human.
I don't. My body does, but I don't. You can see the difference by running a thought experiment where I'm transferred to the body of a robot.
DNA would still be human. If a robot was programmed to have all your ideas, it would just be a complex simulation of a human, you would still not be in a robot, and you would still die. Consciousness doesn't work that way.
In post 1606, Shaziro wrote:Ever heard of a parody, Accountant? Movies like "Vampires Suck"? Where they take a movie and make fun of everything in it by mimicing it but in a comical or exaggerated fashion?
But eagerSnake did not exaggerate my behavior. He behaved exactly like me, without any exaggeration.
That should tell you something, tbh. You didn't think it was weird that he was declaring he was the leader and was going to re-educate you?
In post 1611, Shaziro wrote:That should tell you something, tbh. You didn't think it was weird that he was declaring he was the leader and was going to re-educate you?
I am a follower of the correct path. I always talk about how I want to re-educate people.
eagerSnake talks about how he wants to re-educate people. Hence, it is likely that he is a follower of the correct path.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1611, Shaziro wrote:DNA would still be human. If a robot was programmed to have all your ideas, it would just be a complex simulation of a human, you would still not be in a robot, and you would still die. Consciousness doesn't work that way.
Consciousness is not me. I'm just a set of ideals. Consciousness is not necessary for superior beings. For instance if there was a child in Nigeria with all my ideals, and you destroyed this body, I would be alive - in Nigeria.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
No, you're not. Also, does that mean you attempting to make other people have the same ideals as you is really just an elaborate attempt to make yourself live forever by having an endless number of people with your ideals? Because that's a pretty silly way to try to do it.
In post 1614, Shaziro wrote:No, you're not. Also, does that mean you attempting to make other people have the same ideals as you is really just an elaborate attempt to make yourself live forever by having an endless number of people with your ideals? Because that's a pretty silly way to try to do it.
Yes, I am. And it's a happy side effect.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1614, Shaziro wrote:No, you're not. Also, does that mean you attempting to make other people have the same ideals as you is really just an elaborate attempt to make yourself live forever by having an endless number of people with your ideals? Because that's a pretty silly way to try to do it.
Yes, I am. And it's a happy side effect.
Pretty gross to try and kill off everyone else so there's infinite yous.
In post 1616, Shaziro wrote:Pretty gross to try and kill off everyone else so there's infinite yous.
It's just a happy side effect. Not the main point.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
In post 1617, Annadog40 wrote:How do you follow the self-evident truths of the world which I listed below.
Those are not self evident truths.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.
