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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:25 pm

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Erm. SOrr was reading through your iso.

Anyway: do you disagree with RC/Titus/Dwlee town?
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:27 pm

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If NM is scum Anotora deserves an award for the single best scumhunting ISO in any game I've ever seen.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:31 pm

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In post 949, RadiantCowbells wrote:Do you disagree with my townpool as it stands?
Since it consists of two players that were not on the Hans wagon, yeah.

Your lack of engagement after making noise about wanting to stay alive to play the game through doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies.
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:32 pm

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:igmeou:

I have spent more time reading and rereading this game than anyone else has.

I just haven't bothered posting the exact same set of reads that I've had since the start of this day over and over again.

I'm slightly more sure of Titus town now and I have a new townread in Dwlee so that's nice =]
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:33 pm

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I currently think you are the most likely town of my 3 nonconfirmeds but Titus disagrees. I want you to do exactly what you're not doing and engage with Titus about why she scumreads you and see if you can't come to an agreement.

How does that sound?
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:35 pm

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What is there to engage her over? Her case consists of "you were on the Hans wagon."
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:38 pm

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Well, tell her that. Your goal can be to convince me or her, I don't care, but I want to see you engage with her.

It's not for your benefit, it's for understanding her read on you.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:50 pm

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In post 845, Titus wrote:
In post 841, -Grey- wrote:
In post 837, Titus wrote:Still me being flawed is not a justification for your position that Hans was not bussed.
Bussing on day one being extremely suboptimal is plenty of justification.

There was scum on his wagon, alright. The hammer vote.
That's again, just saying what you'd do. A scum flipping D1 means scum are extremely ineffective or bussing.

Given the PR deaths, we can eliminate ineffective. So scum bussed.

Scum also do not hammer themselves if the wagon is all town.
Shit like this right here is why trying to interact with Titus is akin to bashing your head against a brick wall.

Two scum were lynched in three days, but she says "we can eliminate ineffective" and expects that to actually make sense.

Scum are so effective that they're dropping left and right. Yep. Sure. Give me some more kool-aid, please.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:03 am

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I think Titus can usually be reasoned with if you deal with her in the right way. Instead of dismissing her argument, explain why it doesn't fly.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:09 am

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In post 845, Titus wrote:
In post 841, -Grey- wrote:
In post 837, Titus wrote:Still me being flawed is not a justification for your position that Hans was not bussed.
Bussing on day one being extremely suboptimal is plenty of justification.

There was scum on his wagon, alright. The hammer vote.
That's again, just saying what you'd do. A scum flipping D1 means scum are extremely ineffective or bussing.

Given the PR deaths, we can eliminate ineffective. So scum bussed.

Scum also do not hammer themselves if the wagon is all town.
So tell us, Titus, how effective scum are when there has only been one mislynch thus far.

Tell us why scum that are so bad as to be caught d1 would play optimally in regards to when they should or should not self-hammer.

Tell us why you accuse me of projecting, then proceed to project all over the place to justify your theory.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:10 am

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See, those are leading questions in a way that puts Titus down. That's not going to help you negotiate with her.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:19 am

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*groan*

It's how I talk.

You're welcome to rephrase of you think it'd be more productive.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:21 am

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Also, I don't see how the first two items so what you are saying at all.

The one she kind of deserves for being a hypocrite.
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:55 am

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Stop being abrasive
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:00 am

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In post 963, Dwlee99 wrote:Stop being abrasive
Do you know what telling an abrasive person to stop being abrasive accomplishes?

It's like telling a dog to stop being a dog. An exercise in futility.

Besides, I'm Mr. Rogers compared to some of the people on this site.
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:06 am

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idgaf that other people act like more of a douche lol
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:54 am

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In post 940, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yeah I reread again and I'm still just like fuck dude Alisae/NM slot needs dead *shrug*
With all respect, alisea's is probably one of the easiest player to read on site and her play was extremely towny, her votes were, the interactions were etc everything point out to that slot being obv town
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:56 am

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In post 966, Joey_ wrote:
In post 940, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yeah I reread again and I'm still just like fuck dude Alisae/NM slot needs dead *shrug*
With all respect, alisea's is probably one of the easiest player to read on site and her play was extremely towny, her votes were, the interactions were etc everything point out to that slot being obv town
You think he's so easy to read, but you can't even get his pronoun right. :lol:
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:59 am

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RC just cannot read simple players with simple play
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:04 am

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My lynch order for today would be

Narna -> RC -> Grey/Titus -> Dwele

Ill complete reading the game before the end of the day
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:09 am

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In post 781, Dwlee99 wrote:okay so you can read my analysis?
By the by, the answer to this was "hell no", but I didn't feel like having you try to explain it to me.

Just looking at it makes my head hurt.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 772, Dwlee99 wrote:1 more scum extremely likely on first
0-1 scum on second (0 more likely)
0-1 scum on third (0 more likely)
{

3 - ON - Not_Mafia, Titus, Grey
0 - OFF - RadiantCowbells, Narna

1 - ON - Grey, Narna, Not_Mafia
2 - OFF - RadiantCowbells, Titus

1 - ON - RadiantCowbells, Titus, Not_Mafia
2 - OFF - Narna, Grey
} = Point values for being on a wagon based on the likelihood I think scum would be on it
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Not_Mafia: 1 Likely, 2 Not likely
Titus: 2 Likely, 1 Not likely
Grey: 2 Likely, 1 Not likely
RadiantCowbells: 1 Likely, 2 Not likely
Narna: 1 Likely, 2 Not likely
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Not_Mafia: 5
Titus: 6
Grey: 6
RadiantCowbells: 3
Narna: 3
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:41 am

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Yeah, see... that just made it worse.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:43 am

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huh
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:46 am

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Even if that analysis was readable, i think its possible conclusion are irrelevant

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