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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:16 am

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I don't know why you didn't choose to kill last night, I've to agree that was very stupid of your team.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:26 am

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You really should read the game before jumping in.

You haven't done yourself any favors at all.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:57 am

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So, here's the situation.

Fish soft-claimed PR yesterday.

There was no kill last night.

So, either Fish was protected, or he was bulletproof.

Either way, Ville can't be a PR asking for protection and still be town.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:04 am

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Sorry Ville, but I'm not going to let you fish out our other PR before you hang.

Nice try, but in the future you should read the game before participating, lol.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:50 am

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In post 1072, Ville wrote:
In post 1071, -Grey- wrote:Hey Ville...

I wasn't kidding about your slot being caught scum.

VOTE: Ville

Just go ahead and out your partner so we can call it a day.
VOTE: -Grey-

I will claim if everyone is going to vote against me; but that would be against the interest of the town, making myself a kill target this night.
Or I need protection from a town doctor this night.
Ville specifically said "town doctor" so that implies that if he's a real PR, he's and investigative one because only doctor exists in cop or tracker. Let's pretend there's no scum that nks (I didn't actually know that was a possibility @grey), then that means that either formerfish is scum, or he's bulletproof with a shot on him hence the nk, or he's doctor and got a save somewhere?

I think that there should be a mass claim. This will make the game way easier. I HIGHLY DOUBT that if pepcho was cop, he'd check fish. If he were tracker, maybe he checks fish to see whether or not the PR claim holds. Either way, I think that a lot gets revealed because if fish is doctor, he gets a free town check almost (if we assume that scum don't nk).

UNVOTE:

I personally want hard claims in this order:

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I'm vanilla town, and RC claimed vanilla town earlier I believe. People from Grey to Fykus was just based on memory of who was in the game. Thoughts?
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:53 am

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I'm the Town Tracker.
Because no one was active as me in the night no actions happened at all.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:03 am

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nydus, what do you not understand about 1077?
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:27 am

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Or fish wasn't even targeted. I'm presenting possibilities, not absolutes
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:37 am

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In post 1082, nydushermain wrote:Or fish wasn't even targeted. I'm presenting possibilities, not absolutes
Somebody was. A kill was still stopped.

The only claim that would have made any sense from Ville would have been a protective role. Him claiming investigative is just to fish for a counter before he dies.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:18 am

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In post 1083, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1082, nydushermain wrote:Or fish wasn't even targeted. I'm presenting possibilities, not absolutes
Somebody was. A kill was still stopped.

The only claim that would have made any sense from Ville would have been a protective role. Him claiming investigative is just to fish for a counter before he dies.
So why can't he be tracker, for example, formerfish bulletproof, and then he asked for protection because he didn't read the thread properly? Either way, I think it's unlikely. Formerfish doesn't even need to claim his role tbh, he just needs to claim "bulletproof" or "not bulletproof"
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:18 am

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In post 1080, Ville wrote:I'm the Town Tracker.
Because no one was active as me in the night no actions happened at all.
What does this mean?
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:18 am

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I thought tracker picked someone, and then followed them in the night to see who they visited?
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:24 am

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I think theyre suggesting pep wasnt around and thus tracked noone
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:31 am

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OH. Okay that makes sense -_- I'm dumb
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:49 am

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VOTE: ville

Because you can't be the tracker. It sucks that it came down to having to role reveal but I'm not letting that slide and I don't have another way to sneakily suggest that you're scum
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:52 am

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Unvote. Weird shit happens. FormerFish could be bulletproof.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:53 am

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Moogin cc'ed.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:54 am

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Oh.

Moogin could be scum though.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:55 am

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Just... hold ur butts.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:55 am

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Doesn't matter.

We Lynch Ville. If he flips town, we lynch Moogin.

You know this.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:56 am

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Or we lynch Moogin, they flip town, we lynch Ville.

Scum already know whether Formerfish is doctor or Bulletproof. only town doesn't know.

There is no harm to town in that information being outed and I want to have some time to think about this.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:58 am

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Is there a way in the future to just...not cc? It seems so lazy to do that but I didn't want Ville to get away with the fake claim.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:59 am

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No, scum does not know. They just know the kill was blocked.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:59 am

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Yes they do.

Formerfish is outed as the otehr PR.

If they shot FORMERFISH, he is 1-shot BP
If they shot SOMEONE BESIDES FORMERFISH, he is doctor.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:00 am

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In post 1096, MooginSoosy wrote:Is there a way in the future to just...not cc? It seems so lazy to do that but I didn't want Ville to get away with the fake claim.
Yeah, you vote and push back regardless of the claim.
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