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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:56 pm

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In post 1848, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1846, Titus wrote:
In post 1844, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1778, Nero Cain wrote:actually....Molla full claims his previous role or eats rope/lead depending on which he finds tastier.
I support this.
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In post 1776, Nero Cain wrote:I do not think its outside the realms of possibility that Molla fakeclaims that his buddy targets him. Its tinfoily and jazz but you could say the same for a still living investigation role. Titus and/or Mastin are my preferred lynches thus far.

vote:Titus
Dude, your shade hat is in full force. You are not directly counterclaiming Molla, as you're pushing my lynch instead. If my memory serves, Molla also claimed his result before the guilty.

This looks like a roundabout way of just attacking anyone who suspected Infinity and is really worse given that I was right on Klingon.

VOTE: Nero
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No this isn't chainsawing, this vote from Titus is just atrocious. Her play around Klingon still makes sense as scum.
Now, why would you want to rope me and Rolefish BBMolla? Scum vanillaizing themselves isn't even moonlogicky enough for me.
Because if Molla is scum he could easily be lying about being vanillized?
And he'd lie before the guilty?
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:57 pm

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In post 1844, SirCakez wrote:No this isn't chainsawing, this vote from Titus is just atrocious. Her play around Klingon still makes sense as scum.
explain plz?

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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:04 pm

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In post 1826, Infinity 324 wrote:
The problem is that no one has really done anything scummy
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:35 pm

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a couple questions for aj:

1. what do you think is inadequate about the way the rogue crew currently is?
In post 1827, Aj The Epic wrote:Already looked for associations. I didn't see anything other than Luv was probs town, as was infinity. There's very little in the ISO that's useful anymore given who's died. That's my opinion so feel free to look, but I just didn't see anything.
2. that's really it? how about mastin? how about the however many ppl on the failed d1 wagon? how about titus? nothing out of that?
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:01 pm

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In post 1850, Titus wrote:
In post 1848, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1846, Titus wrote:
In post 1844, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1778, Nero Cain wrote:actually....Molla full claims his previous role or eats rope/lead depending on which he finds tastier.
I support this.
In post 1782, Titus wrote:
In post 1776, Nero Cain wrote:I do not think its outside the realms of possibility that Molla fakeclaims that his buddy targets him. Its tinfoily and jazz but you could say the same for a still living investigation role. Titus and/or Mastin are my preferred lynches thus far.

vote:Titus
Dude, your shade hat is in full force. You are not directly counterclaiming Molla, as you're pushing my lynch instead. If my memory serves, Molla also claimed his result before the guilty.

This looks like a roundabout way of just attacking anyone who suspected Infinity and is really worse given that I was right on Klingon.

VOTE: Nero
VOTE: Titus

No this isn't chainsawing, this vote from Titus is just atrocious. Her play around Klingon still makes sense as scum.
Now, why would you want to rope me and Rolefish BBMolla? Scum vanillaizing themselves isn't even moonlogicky enough for me.
Because if Molla is scum he could easily be lying about being vanillized?
And he'd lie before the guilty?
What guilty?
In post 1851, Heartless wrote:
In post 1844, SirCakez wrote:No this isn't chainsawing, this vote from Titus is just atrocious. Her play around Klingon still makes sense as scum.
explain plz?

i don't quite follow
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:03 pm

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the part where you were saying her play around klingon makes sense as scum
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:06 pm

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I don't know enough about the crew to say regardless. We don't know what you all have talked about or what roles you get, or even how they're distributed. If you're referring to my vote, I'm just more sure Infinity is town.

With mastin, I noticed it. However my issue is I can't tell if she actually sniped pine out super hard or if it's scum theatre. That's why I said I can't figure it out. Same with Titus, but more so because I'm not unsure the primary objective of that was to tie Pine to Infinity and get on his good graces by some awkward white knight.
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:07 pm

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/sigh

aj, i gotta say...

i'm looking through pinetonic iso and i'm finding it very hard to believe you would just find what i already mentioned (about LUV) and say you came up empty.

i'm finding stuff for:
>cakez
>titus
>twie
>mastin
>nero

....

fdsajklf;jas;ldfkealwpoiiiii8hahfdajsfiew;lds;ajfe;iwj;fcasdkljfkl;jafsd
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:08 pm

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In post 1856, Aj The Epic wrote:I don't know enough about the crew to say regardless. We don't know what you all have talked about or what roles you get, or even how they're distributed. If you're referring to my vote, I'm just more sure Infinity is town.
in terms of mechanics, unless you flat out want one of us (heartless+infinity+piper) kicked out of the crew there's really no point in voting a new rogue leader in
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 1856, Aj The Epic wrote:With mastin, I noticed it. However my issue is I can't tell if she actually sniped pine out super hard or if it's scum theatre.
well...

tonic's approach to mastin was mostly discrediting (any of his posts on that page) while pine's was a hybrid of discrediting and appeasement

do EITHER of those sound like the way scum would treat a scumbuddy to you?
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:17 pm

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Absolutely. That's a VERY EASY play, especially compared to having to dig up cases on each other.
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:21 pm

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So AJ, why aren't you voting Titus?
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:22 pm

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non sequitur
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:23 pm

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are you saying that pine and tonic would've been too lazy to make a case and call mastin scum or....

...

what?
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:26 pm

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VOTE: aj
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:32 pm

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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:33 pm

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In post 1855, Heartless wrote:the part where you were saying her play around klingon makes sense as scum
Attempting to pocket Klingon by backing off of her was what it looks like now.

Pine's behavior around mastina means she's probtown, agreed.
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:35 pm

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In post 1863, Heartless wrote:are you saying that pine and tonic would've been too lazy to make a case and call mastin scum or....

...

what?

No. It IS easier but there's a reason I'd expect this first that's a bit of a different direction. Mainly, doing attacks like this doesn't exactly encourage case building or reviews through ISOs. It's also not necessarily drawing them into the limelight. It's almost a defensive measure where you take it in case one dies. Full on cases may make better 'scum theatre' overall, but it almost guarantees the incrimination of one or both playing. My thought is 'does this look like Mastin/Pine leaving distance between themselves?' Does mastin actually catch Pine like this or does she have prior knowledge? Because I don't see what I expect in town v scum: a long, drawn out fight with one on a complete defensive and losing to compelling evidence.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:38 pm

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it clicked for me:

> the only time pinetonic saw fit to mention a read on aj was in this post where he lazily just kind of toyed around with a quasi-scumread. NEITHER pine nor tonic himself saw fit to follow up

> aj's content itself has been disappointing. even though there's a flipped scum and that scum has... 117 posts all he's done is regurgitate what i said the rest of his thoughts is just a quagmire of jfkl;dsajfkl;mewlkfj;lkajf

> aj's critics either end up dead (desp) or with a crowbar to the knee (bbmolla)

aj is scum
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:39 pm

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In post 1866, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1855, Heartless wrote:the part where you were saying her play around klingon makes sense as scum
Attempting to pocket Klingon by backing off of her was what it looks like now.

Pine's behavior around mastina means she's probtown, agreed.
yes, pocketing someone who's about to die

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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:41 pm

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In post 1867, Aj The Epic wrote:Because I don't see what I expect in town v scum: a long, drawn out fight with one on a complete defensive and losing to compelling evidence.
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what?

are you reading the same game i am? mastin planted her vote on pine and didn't move
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:45 pm

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I'm not as sold on Mastina as you, Infinity and Heartless. Mastins reasoning for wanting to lynch Pine was scare-non existent. All I remember is her saying to trust her. Given that Pine's role basically confirmed him as scum it would make plenty of sense as a bus.
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:46 pm

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In post 1867, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 1863, Heartless wrote:are you saying that pine and tonic would've been too lazy to make a case and call mastin scum or....

...

what?

No. It IS easier but there's a reason I'd expect this first that's a bit of a different direction. Mainly, doing attacks like this doesn't exactly encourage case building or reviews through ISOs. It's also not necessarily drawing them into the limelight. It's almost a defensive measure where you take it in case one dies. Full on cases may make better 'scum theatre' overall, but it almost guarantees the incrimination of one or both playing. My thought is 'does this look like Mastin/Pine leaving distance between themselves?' Does mastin actually catch Pine like this or does she have prior knowledge? Because I don't see what I expect in town v scum: a long, drawn out fight with one on a complete defensive and losing to compelling evidence.
this...

is so counterintuitive

summary of what i'm seeing here:

mastin/pine fight ----????????-----> aj's grey fart cloud

nothing is plausibly filling the ??????????????? there's skepticism/not being played for a sucker and then there's.... this. not buying it.
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:48 pm

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In post 1869, Heartless wrote:yes, pocketing someone who's about to die

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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:00 pm

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You realize, Heartless, that I completely ignored it immediately because it could go EITHER WAY.

Your reasons suck. All there is to it. A.) I've told you my day 1s are bad. B.) have you not realized it's fucking obvious desp dies as one of the rogue leader people? Do you really think I'd go after him first? And the last thing I'm going to do is vanilla someone not in the rogue leader group as that shit is essentially clearing someone.

You're convinced Mastina's town and this is guiding your entire read.
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