Are you usually this cautious? What's making you lean RC for town? I have a feeling I know why but I want to hear what you have to say first.In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.Keyser Söze wrote:At least Rauth has more meat to chew on now...
UNVOTE: Akarin, she'll get prodded soon anyways...
Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!
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Not as entertaining as KainTepes!In post 420, Vifam wrote:I just like having Gerry in the game he's entertaining-
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Why's that pinging you? Transcend doesn't strike me as one to prod dodge unless it's something IRL related.In post 589, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Anything else Trans? You're much less involved in this game than in any other game I've seen u in.In post 485, Transcend wrote:Gerry is mighty scummy i admit-
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I didn't "only jump on him to appeal" to anyone. The combination of the following is why I voted for him:In post 559, mattblackguy wrote:So you didn't jump on the Grendel wagon because you were scumreading him? You only jumped on to appeal to the two people you were townreading? I don't see how this is coming from a town mindset at all.
- coopsheep asked me to. Since I townread him, I figured he had reason he wanted pressure on the slot.
- Keyser (who is also a townread) also was voting for Grendel. So 2 of my townreads see something scummy there.
- I checked the votecount and there was a decent wagon forming on him. Which means it would be some good pressure. Wagons like that are great for seeing how people react to it.
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Upset as in engage in an interaction that demands him to reason out a conflict of reads / ideas / beliefs. I want to see blood.In post 597, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why would seeing him purposely upset active players make you feel better about his alignment?In post 174, Keyser Söze wrote:Not convinced by Rauth so far. I want to see him upset an active player. Feels like he's trying to play a safe game. Once I see his teeth I may get a better look inside his soul.
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I just don't understand why you associate engaging with upset. I think him being himself has been enough so far.In post 604, Keyser Söze wrote:
Upset as in engage in an interaction that demands him to reason out a conflict of reads / ideas / beliefs. I want to see blood.In post 597, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why would seeing him purposely upset active players make you feel better about his alignment?In post 174, Keyser Söze wrote:Not convinced by Rauth so far. I want to see him upset an active player. Feels like he's trying to play a safe game. Once I see his teeth I may get a better look inside his soul.
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I pointed out his post was scummy. That doesn't mean I automatically vote him. I pointed out other scummy posts as well.In post 599, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote?In post 390, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Scummy postIn post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
VOTE: Akarin
What else can I really say about that post? I explained to him why I thought it was scummy.Where are the attempts to dig?
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"Engaging" does not = "upsetting". But it is one part of interactions I like to look at.In post 606, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I just don't understand why you associate engaging with upset. I think him being himself has been enough so far.
Part of my concern I am sure you should be able to relate to. You personally asked Rautherdir: "Are you usually this cautious?".
There is one type of mafia playing style I have encountered that Rautherdir has exhibited. Thus, I want to drill down on what he actually is posting (does he believe any of it? is he willing to broadcast those beliefs to everyone? is he willing to cause conflict in order to push his scum-reads?).
"I think him being himself has been enough so far."- it sounds like you currenty town-read Rautherdir so I'd expect for that to be your default position. Do you have a problem with me wanting more from Rautherdir in order to 'enhance' my read of him?-
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1: Transcend if he doesn't replyIn post 581, Keyser Söze wrote:People keep saying gerryoat is scum but then they vote someone else...
Is it because:
1) you have a stronger scum read?
2) you think it is an inevitable lynch so you're going to jump on later?
3) are you waiting for your town reads to vote for him?
4) do you want to gain more information on other players then would gladly hammer?
gerryoat is one of the most active players so you should vote for him and ascertain if he really is scum NOW. People are labeling him scum but leaving it at that. Many agree with RC's reasoning that gerryoat's reaction to his PR-claim is categorically scum-indicative.
2: For me it's the 'we have 48 hours left in the day' lynch
3: I need to get town reads first
4: Definitely
Sorry for not explaining earlier, I'm holding off on posting some information until I get a full reads list up. I've already figured out Grendel.In post 587, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
So you went back, read over the game, decided Gerry was probably scum, and also (my presumption) decided you didn't know enough about other players so wanted to pressure them (which makes sense to me, and I like your Transcend pressure) but you're also choosing to avoid figuring out the Grendel thing. That seems a little random, why are you trying to sort everything except Grendel?In post 552, Rautherdir wrote:As to why I never commented on Grendel's wagon, I didn't have enough information to make a read on Grendel.
And as to Gerry... I'm just going to ignore him for a while. I'll probably support a wagon on him later on though, when I don't have anyone else to bother. I'm trying to avoid the tunneling problem I had last game.
(missed this when compiling my quotes - sorry for triple post awesome wall)
I don't know? You can look at my only other game if you want here. As for why I think RC leans town, it's RC's claim and Gerry's reaction to it.In post 600, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Are you usually this cautious? What's making you lean RC for town? I have a feeling I know why but I want to hear what you have to say first.In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:
Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.Keyser Söze wrote:At least Rauth has more meat to chew on now...
UNVOTE: Akarin, she'll get prodded soon anyways...
Pre-edit: Iwillengage. That said, there are good reasons for some town-aligned players to be cautious in their posting.-
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Ok, that's clearer now.In post 609, Rautherdir wrote:1: Transcend if he doesn't reply
2: For me it's the 'we have 48 hours left in the day' lynch
3: I need to get town reads first
4: Definitely
I didn't see you challenge "Gerry's reaction" until now. But that is the popular theme as to why gerryoats is scum.In post 609, Rautherdir wrote:As for why I think RC leans town, it's RC's claim and Gerry's reaction to it.
What part of RC's 'reaction' did you scum-read in your early T-S / S-T theory?-
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Other people were talking about it and I didn't want to post just to agree with them and add nothing.In post 610, Keyser Söze wrote:
I didn't see you challenge "Gerry's reaction" until now. But that is the popular theme as to why gerryoats is scum.In post 609, Rautherdir wrote:As for why I think RC leans town, it's RC's claim and Gerry's reaction to it.
What part of RC's 'reaction' did you scum-read in your early T-S / S-T theory?
It wasn't that I scum-read RC as much as I could see high motivation for scum to do what he did. Had Gerry's reaction been different I would have leaned towards RC being scum.-
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Well you were one of the first players on the scene after their 'fight' so I wished you'd shared your reasons there and then and explained how Gerry's reaction was scummy in your own words. But it's gone now, so I'll have to let it pass. The seriousness/strength of your read on gerryoats is very clear now though.-
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2 days of work and a sore throat. I immediately fell asleep after getting home from work both days.In post 602, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why's that pinging you? Transcend doesn't strike me as one to prod dodge unless it's something IRL related.In post 589, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Anything else Trans? You're much less involved in this game than in any other game I've seen u in.In post 485, Transcend wrote:Gerry is mighty scummy i admit-
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Is this the real life?In post 614, Transcend wrote:Tl;dr this plz
Is this just fake negligence?
Caught in a landslide...
P.EDIT yes, please catch-up when you can. Right now, not even a gerryoats-scum flip would make me town-read you.-
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