Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[Fro99er]

Dumbass wagon lol

I too tell inanimate objects that they are dumbasses.

DUMBASS TABLE

[Transcend]

I appreciate it guys

[Fro99er]

pt check Alisae

Makes the most sense considering events of today

I'd say vig Fro99er but he's not gonna do it

we've been through this 100 times.

we're not PT checking alisae because Jae can clear Ali.

[Zachstralkita]

Then my vote changes to fro9

[Fro99er]

@Moderator - Can we get a prod for mick?

[ConManMick]

Excuse you

[Fro99er]

haha, hi mick

[ConManMick]

Yo what's up? I've been reading and didn't really notice I hadn't posted in however long. Anything you wanted me for in particular?

[Fro99er]

Yo what's up? I've been reading and didn't really notice I hadn't posted in however long. Anything you wanted me for in particular?

Any thoughts on the Elena wagon? On JaeReed being able to clear Alisae? On a Vig/Check target?

[ConManMick]

I had been townleaning Elena but the wagon raises several good points, particularly that shite about the name of the second mafia team. I'm not opposed to this lynch. If we lynch Elena, however, I want some assurances as to Transcend's alignment being revealed.

I've liked Jae's play and I'm willing to hold off on an Alisae lynch in order to see what he's got to show. In saying that, very few of us were fans of that slot and I honk we should be prepared for the likelihood of a potential gambit or whatever you want to call it.
I would fancy having

Transcend checked

if we're lynching Elena, and as for the Vig, I leave that in Jaack's capable hands. Maybe shoot someone unconfirmed who isn't contributing useful info.
I've liked Transcend's recent play, but I am wary of the sudden turn around in style.
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[Zachstralkita]

I've been finessed by scum Transcend before I feel like I should probably be able to tell ..

[Elena Fisher]

I don't really see what points have been brought up against me the only thing I saw is that "Elena said nonblack mafia" and I don't really see the issue with that I mean it is most likely white but you don't know for sure like is that really what's causing my lynch?

[Elena Fisher]

People have asked Transcend why he sr's me and he actively avoid says why and when he finally does give an answer he gives no proof or reasons to back it up for instance when Alisae asked transcend why he sr's my slot he said my votes when pushed for more info on why he never gave any
He's making this all up on the spot

[Zachstralkita]

I believe you know far more than you are playing like (because you're scum) and you nothing short of manipulate your opposition's arguments. You had a few pings to me day one. When I ping, I ping.


Your defense is strong that's why the longer you live the worse it ends up. Who wants to bet she evades the lynch? Fro99er and co. will help with that.

I'm going to nap now.

[Elena Fisher]

The first part of your statement can be said about any player here ANY player here you can make that statement on what am a manipulating please do show is breaking down someone's bad logic manipulation to you? Are you saying Transcend defense isn't strong? This would be 2 counter wagon's he's gotten out of granted one was because of a hard soft but he seemed to be winning the one before aswell

[Zachstralkita]

No ma'ammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

If I could say it about any player I wouldn't have said it about 1 player DUHHHHHHH see this is what I mean



Also Transcends defense evidently isn't that strong lmao he's about to get murked

[Elena Fisher]

I can say to anyone in this player list "You know more then what you're letting on" Anyone, You can't say that's wrong. See the point?

I believe at the moment it's close yes? If Transcend was town his wagon could've been auto lynched the moment the Alisae wagon wasn't a thing anymore if Transcend was town it wouldn't be this hard to lynch him his wagon was made up on days mine was hours the reason why a counter wagon started again was because he's scum and they're trying to save a buddy

[Zachstralkita]

I mean you're playing like there is a wall between your thoughts and what comes out in your posts and it is there on purpose

There's a few people I can't say that about, namely JaeReed after going into his posts. I said before I wanted to vig him, which I am retracting.




Your logic on transcend wagon is completely null

If I recall day 1 there were like 3 wagon switches after pep initial wagon and it went BACK TO PEP


He was not scum

[Elena Fisher]

I really have no idea what you mean with the first part I've never heard that before care to go into more detail? The second part is finally a valid point would you say Pep was a hard wagon to lynch? I believe they wanted to keep pep around because his reads were quite bad but they just let him die (I could be slightly bias on that point) What do you think of Transcend/Gerry's reasoning for the pep lynch of "I just want to end this day" when both of them tr pep

[Zachstralkita]

Organic thought VS Manufactured thought is the gist of it,

I believe you fall into the second category and the matter of differentiating between the two hinges on tone, progression, reads and reactions

I'll get back to you with more solidified stuff on the Day 1 end, I already have some opinions

[Fro99er]

Clumsy and Mick, I'm not sure if you two have day-talk as masons, but if so you two should try to get on the same page.

[Fro99er]

I had been townleaning Elena but the wagon raises several good points, particularly that shite about the name of the second mafia team. I'm not opposed to this lynch. If we lynch Elena, however, I want some assurances as to Transcend's alignment being revealed.

Transcend absolutely should be revealed in some way, whether it's a lynch, vig, or check. He's been up against two wagons now, and it hasn't gotten beyond L-2.

If Elena is scum, it's most likely with Cloudie as Jae pointed out, which if that's the case then elena would have one less teammate (Cloudie) to help resist her wagon. If transcend is scum, it could be white or black, so there's a better chance than Elena that Transcend hasn't had any teammates removed. Therefore probabilistically, there's a greater likelihood of extra resistance to his wagon relative to Elena.

But at this point, we're going to get a ton of information with either flip, especially having a vig and a PT check and wagon analysis.

[Transcend]

Hi i have work but hi

[Transcend]

I'd infinitely prefer to be checked vs dead fwiw but u do u.

[Fro99er]

Ugh.

I'm starting to doubt myself thinking more around the wagons. Especially Alisae's.

If Ali is town, wouldn't he know that he's the counterwagon to Transcend, or at worst if Transcend is town and Ali is town then there's scum on his wagon? So either

1) why move off transcend onto Elena because it's likely Transcend is scum if Ali is town or
2) If Ali did move off transcend, shouldn't Ali be looking for someone on his own wagon? Elena wasn't one of those people.

Maybe Alisae and Elena are opposite scum to each other and Transcend is actually town. I really don't see a scenario in which Ali is scum and Transcend AND Elena are town.

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