i don't really think it's that important. if enough ppl vote him RL then fine but if we stay on also fine.In post 2420, TheWayItEnds wrote:yo heartless whats your position on making DP rogue leader
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i don't really have a good answer for that question because it is entirely possible the whole things a gambit.In post 2418, Infinity 324 wrote:The balance issues are fair. But why wouldn't molla gambit like that?
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In post 1479, Firebringer wrote:
Molla claim comes 11 posts into day2. I don't see Molla saying this for town credit unless Pine already knew he'd been copped.In post 1490, BBmolla wrote:I was vanillaized.
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In post 2409, Infinity 324 wrote:
This is a good point actually. What do you think mastin?In post 2404, Titus wrote:Either scum had to risk a broken situation occurring by holding one of their vanillaize shots, or whenever Pine flipped we'd get 3 vanillaized claims for two shots.
Another issue I have with the molla!scum narrative is why pine would risk dying before using all his shots given the day1 wagon thing and him joining the rogue crew.
People need to engage the people they disagree with more.
See 2428. And i thought he was lynched from a guilty, not because he joined the Rogue group.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Yeah but pine didn't know about the guilty on n1.In post 210, SirCakez wrote:
There is definitely such a thing as trying too hard. It might be NAI for you though, thinking back on it.In post 202, Titus wrote:
There is no such thing as trying to hard. I'm always full tilt. You should know this by now. You also don't seem to be reassessing this claim in light of other conversations going on. I did quote and explain how I caught scum by post 30 before, and went too hard. I was town there. I only come with Full Tilt or IRL. Why are you repeating what is said?In post 198, SirCakez wrote:How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?
But your other posting isn't giving me the town!Titus vibes I expect.
If I was I would hate it, I hate being scum lol.In post 204, Nero Cain wrote: How do you like being a stormtrooper, Cakes?
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this is a scum win so I think I'll just vote anyone that's not voting Titus. I prophesize that at some point a stupid town or scum is going to say something along the lines of "Nero is doing nothing but sheeping, he must be scum!" and get mislynched for doing nothing but sheeping. But I don't think I'll really care at that point.In post 2391, BBmolla wrote:can we talk about your worries about me and figure this shit out so we don't need to waste a lynchOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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So me tunneling Titus makes her try to get cheap town cred from the Kling wagon?In post 2394, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't see anything in nero's case that can't be explained by titus just not thinking clearly for one reason or another. Tunneling makes townies do very weird things, and I think that's what's happening to titus.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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this but then Infinity will just defend this by saying that her being tunneled is making her act this way.In post 2393, SirCakez wrote:You aren't doing ANYTHING besides be defensive and complain about the people pushing you. No scumhunting.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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he did or atleast I did give reasons why I believed why I do and he changed his tune but then you and Titus are the little "deny it ever happened party"In post 2396, Infinity 324 wrote:Oh, I didn't even notice at first but going from this to "oh yeah you might be right" without citing any specifics is very scummyOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I was never scum reading her for OMGUS....I mean herIn post 2399, Aj The Epic wrote:Whereas you were scumreading for OMGUS at the beginning of todayDELAYEDOMGUS doesn't give me town vibes or anything but that was never part of my original case.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I get it, its a sympathy thing regardless of alignment. Its ok but you are still scum this game.In post 2404, Titus wrote:Ok, well thank you for detailing in why in the past 5 games (excluding ongoing) that you scumread my slot. I just see the end result every time and go Nero is scumreading me again, as always. I am not going to deny I was scum sometimes but still I just felt like you were doing that.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 2409, Infinity 324 wrote:Another issue I have with the molla!scum narrative is why pine would risk dying before using all his shots given the day1 wagon thing and him joining the rogue crew.HE HAD A ROLE THAT PUBLICLY OUTS HIM USING AN ANTI-TOWN ACTION. AS SOON AS HE USED IT THERE' BE HEAT ON HIM.
I mean, ok, yeah, there's a universe where Molla is scum with Pine and fakes being targeted for town cred and another universe where Molla is town and is turned into a vanilla. I think both are plausible. I don't really understand your thing that scum would intentionally wait a night for Pine to use his second vanila shot and risk being blind on n1.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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and makes her wait a whole day phase for her to claim I'm chainsaw voting her.In post 2432, Nero Cain wrote:
So me tunneling Titus makes her try to get cheap town cred from the Kling wagon?In post 2394, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't see anything in nero's case that can't be explained by titus just not thinking clearly for one reason or another. Tunneling makes townies do very weird things, and I think that's what's happening to titus.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I'm voting this until he votes TitusOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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No, titus tunneling me does. It makes her see everything I do as suspicious, and that included the kling wagon.In post 2432, Nero Cain wrote:
So me tunneling Titus makes her try to get cheap town cred from the Kling wagon?In post 2394, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't see anything in nero's case that can't be explained by titus just not thinking clearly for one reason or another. Tunneling makes townies do very weird things, and I think that's what's happening to titus.-
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Please don't be like thisIn post 2431, Nero Cain wrote:this is a scum win so I think I'll just vote anyone that's not voting Titus.-
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ok, so she's tunneling you and thinks you are scum. So when I ask her who was scum pushing the Kling wagon why does she say "I lack the data and interactions to know if there was scum as opposed to bullheaded pride."
instead of talking about how scummy you are and how you were the scum that was pushing the wagon?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What specifics did he cite?In post 2434, Nero Cain wrote:
he did or atleast I did give reasons why I believed why I do and he changed his tune but then you and Titus are the little "deny it ever happened party"In post 2396, Infinity 324 wrote:Oh, I didn't even notice at first but going from this to "oh yeah you might be right" without citing any specifics is very scummy
He was like "I'm pretty sure mastin is town and nero's case on her is bad" and you gave your reasons, restating many of them and he's like "oh yeah you might be right" and he doesn't even say what caused him to rethink?
zefiend, what specifically that nero said made you reconsider your read on mastin?-
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What do you think of my (and I guess Cakez confirmed it) point that how in Street Fighter she tunneled Jackrito almost exclusively much like she did here?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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like it seems like she is specifically leaving the door open so that she can hop on anyone from the Kling wagon and cite the "In post 2442, Nero Cain wrote:ok, so she's tunneling you and thinks you are scum. So when I ask her who was scum pushing the Kling wagon why does she say "I lack the data and interactions to know if there was scum as opposed to bullheaded pride."
instead of talking about how scummy you are and how you were the scum that was pushing the wagon?THEYwere the scum that was pushing Kling"Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I don't get exactly what you're saying here, but the first part is exactly my point. Since there'd be heat on pine, I'd expect him to use his vanillize n1 in order to avoid dying with unused shots.In post 2437, Nero Cain wrote:In post 2409, Infinity 324 wrote:Another issue I have with the molla!scum narrative is why pine would risk dying before using all his shots given the day1 wagon thing and him joining the rogue crew.HE HAD A ROLE THAT PUBLICLY OUTS HIM USING AN ANTI-TOWN ACTION. AS SOON AS HE USED IT THERE' BE HEAT ON HIM.
I mean, ok, yeah, there's a universe where Molla is scum with Pine and fakes being targeted for town cred and another universe where Molla is town and is turned into a vanilla. I think both are plausible. I don't really understand your thing that scum would intentionally wait a night for Pine to use his second vanila shot and risk being blind on n1.-
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Why does this matter to you? I am voting your scum read. You should be overjoyed.In post 2441, Infinity 324 wrote:
Please don't be like thisIn post 2431, Nero Cain wrote:this is a scum win so I think I'll just vote anyone that's not voting Titus.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I see no reason to believe he didn't unless you think he can't use both actions in the same night.In post 2446, Infinity 324 wrote:I'd expect him to use his vanillize n1 in order to avoid dying with unused shots.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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but lets just say he couldn't. If the n1 crew was all town do you think scum would go "oh hey lets use not use Pine's action that puts him in the crew, so we can see what they are doing tonight."In post 2448, Nero Cain wrote:
I see no reason to believe he didn't unless you think he can't use both actions in the same night.In post 2446, Infinity 324 wrote:I'd expect him to use his vanillize n1 in order to avoid dying with unused shots.
and we could just you know, ask. He may or ma not tell us but meh.....
can a player use more than 1 action in a night?
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