Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!
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Vifam Jack of All Trades
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why were you scumreading meIn post 849, Akarin wrote:I was scumreading you before you hammered. The hammer just seals it.ok-
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Akarin Mafia Scum
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That's what I was talking about earlier. And I got prodded on Day 1 (after I'd posted saying I'd catch up and post, so that didn't prevent a prod) then I was reading the thread when you hammered it. I was already prodded and reading the thread at that point, why are you saying I just rolled in here now?-
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Keyser Söze Jack of All Trades
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From my experiences on MS, anti-town does not equal scum.In post 831, Akarin wrote:So you're forming a town bloc based on people you think are anti-town?
Are you lazy town or lazy scum?-
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Vifam Jack of All Trades
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Akarin Mafia Scum
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I'm annoyed because I was frantically trying to catch up before you hammered and I was paying attention and trying to get reads. But I don't remember all of that now because I never had a chance to post it.
And if I were scum, why would I come in here now and just jump on some random wagon like you're saying I'm doing? Wouldn't I have had like 3 days to plan out some good way to enter the game and not immediately get suspected?
Your argument doesn't make any sense.-
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Akarin Mafia Scum
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My point isn't that anti-town = scum, it's that it seems weird to me that you're assuming anti-town = town.In post 854, Keyser Söze wrote:
From my experiences on MS, anti-town does not equal scum.In post 831, Akarin wrote:So you're forming a town bloc based on people you think are anti-town?
Are you lazy town or lazy scum?
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Akarin Mafia Scum
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Vifam Jack of All Trades
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My wagon really isn't random
If you're scum you have every reason to push my wagon along based on the reasoning that I was so anti-town that I had to be scum, several other people already have
Im sure you can remember why you scumread me before my hammer, you're voting me now so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to atleast tell me how exactly you felt about me priorok-
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Akarin Mafia Scum
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In post 503, Vifam wrote:I don't see how I've been wishy washy about Gerry, never said I was interested in lynching him or thought he was scum-
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Akarin Mafia Scum
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Why are you making it out to be that the argument is that your hammer was anti-town. I mean it was, but I never said that's why I'm voting for you.
It was a scummy hammer, not just an anti-town hammer.
And you started by ignoring that and attacking my other read to discredit me, then moved on to saying I was just sheeping what everyone else is doing without having reasons for it.-
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mattblackguy Goon
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Yes I did read day 1 fully. What am I missing? You said you don't think Gerry is scum, and won't join the wagon, but you agree to the lynch for information purposes. Why didn't you instead propose a counterwagon to Gerry's wagon if you thought RC vs Gerry was TvT? I don't see why you think lynching someone you think is town for information purposes is better than lynching someone you think is scum.In post 813, Keyser Söze wrote:I may look at mattblackguy first actually:
Either you did not fully read Day 1 or you are scum.In post 797, mattblackguy wrote:The fact that Keyser didn't make a vote outside of RVS yet was still active is a little concerning.
VOTE: mattblackguy
You can start by deconstructing your read of JarJarDrinks from Day 1 through to Day 2 (from scum-read to town-read)
GO!
Either way I'm not pushing for your lynch today. I stated that it was concerning to me, because it felt off. I'm more focused of Vifam or RC here. Also your townreads on RC, and Vifam are stupid as shit. You're basically saying they're too scummy to be scum. I don't townread people for acting scummy.
Oh and as far as JarJar goes his push on RC is towniest thing I've seen so far on day 2. The tone was genuine, and all his points so far toward RC are valid concerns yet everyone is ignoring him.-
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Vifam Jack of All Trades
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Yeah that's true, doesn't change the fact that if you're scum you'd have every reason to push on me, literally everyone aside from Uzi, Keysar, JJD and I think Rauth has voted me at some point. It's not like im widely townread by any means so it's not like you're risking anything with a vote on me.In post 861, Akarin wrote:Everyone else already left your wagon.
But your reasoning on Rauth is pretty bad I don't really think not remembering your thoughts from D1 is an excuse for thatok-
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That's cool, I consider them the same thingIn post 822, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't really do cases, just reasons:
How come this? (I can understand your other points)In post 822, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't like how he opened today, feels like he should be voting for RC or Keyser.
Do you feel Transcend is town or null?In post 822, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:As to why I didn't sheep you on to Transcend is because I don't really have a read on your slot and from what I remember of D1, Transcend didn't come off as scummy.
Correct me if I'm wrong - you created a town read off Vifam due to the play being so terrible as to be unwise for scum to do (which it was).In post 828, Keyser Söze wrote:Wouldn't that just make him a bad/illogical player as opposed to scum?
Exclusive of alignment, it was an illogical progression of opinion-meditation-action. I.e his actions did not complement his perspective.
I would think that getting a scum read off of it is an equally valid opinion (play so terrible it is unwise for town to do - which it was).
At that point, if his logic here is empty, isn't yours equally empty?
Also, could you expand on why you logic Transcend as town? I understood your reasoning on RC and Vifam, but you offered none on Transcend.
I don't think it's fair to say that people are ignoring him. Two of his points are;In post 863, mattblackguy wrote:Oh and as far as JarJar goes his push on RC is towniest thing I've seen so far on day 2. The tone was genuine, and all his points so far toward RC are valid concerns yet everyone is ignoring him.
1. RC fake claims cop as scum.
2. RC's "fake" claim is countered by the Gerry flip.
I know I and at least one other person addressed #2 noting that it wasn't a direct counter claim in any way.
I know at least one person addressed #1 noting it is within RC's town meta to fakeclaim cop just as much as within his scum meta - making the play maybe bad, but not a good alignment tell.
What other points of JarJar's do you find good that people are ignoring?
What about the above equates to ignoring?
I'll agree that people aren't agreeing with him - is that what you meant to say? If so, what about his concerns do you find valid in the face of the counter arguments offered against it?-
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... You know, I'm getting the feeling that you're chainsawing. What does everyone else think about Transcend and Vifam both being scum?
VOTE: Transcend-
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Vifam Jack of All Trades
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Life is never that simple :'(In post 867, Rautherdir wrote:... You know, I'm getting the feeling that you're chainsawing. What does everyone else think about Transcend and Vifam both being scum?
VOTE: Transcendok-
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RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
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Mattblackguy was super obvious town in the newbie that I just finished. I quote from my scum PT
He called me scum D2 and I had a hell of a time mislynching him for it.MattBlack is a way harder mislynch. Everything that he does pings me as town. When I was catching up before I realized my slot was scum he was my hardest townread.
This game he has been really bad. Just sort of flittering around from wagon to wagon addressing people on useless shit.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
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Lol I almost posted in another ongoing game.
Under no circumstances am I going to let Vifam reach endgame but like I have time and I find this wagon more likely to flip scum than anything else at this point.
Transcend is still probably scum as well but I'm much less sure and I feel like if we keep pressure up on him and force him to engage me we'll eventually know for sure.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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