Open 666 - Pick Your Poison - Day 5

[Titus]

Perfectly viable to write someone of as town based on something that was done before they even joined the game and with no regard for their own original content.

Sure champ. Okay.

I think you're confbiased or tunneled.

That is actually ok.

[Titus]

I am kind of curious about her lack of presence.

It doesn't seem very Titusy, but r/l might account for that? Idk.

I don't do stupid. NL should have been hammerred already.

[RadiantCowbells]

Lol NL should have been hammerred already. I WONDER WHO IS GETTING NIGHTKILLED

[Titus]

Lol NL should have been hammerred already. I WONDER WHO IS GETTING NIGHTKILLED

5 bucks says you are deciding between Grey and Vecna.

The answer is in how Transcend treats his buddies. Funny how you whine about me actually not engaging you where I told you precisely where to look.

[RadiantCowbells]

No way jose if I were scum I can pocket the shit out of Grey here. My decision would already have been made.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, do you care to explain to the class how

you

180ed and I became obvious scum to you?

[-Grey-]

^fair question

I figured RC's vote was a reaction test. Why do you jump to scumreading him?

[Titus]

Also, do you care to explain to the class how

you

180ed and I became obvious scum to you?

That's not what I said.

Read my post again, and if you insist on this, I will not trust you to get this lylo correct as you have let your zeal block basic English comprehension.

[Titus]

The skill needed here is comparing Transcend's meta to how he usually treats his partners. That's the failsafe on my VCA.

If you cannot do that, then I cannot trust you to handle this lylo.
If I cannot trust you with the understanding and parsing of basic English sentences, I cannot trust you to accurately define the meta in Transcend's that is important and apply it correctly.

[Titus]

Lol NL should have been hammerred already. I WONDER WHO IS GETTING NIGHTKILLED

5 bucks says you are deciding between Grey and Vecna.

The answer is in how Transcend treats his buddies. Funny how you whine about me actually not engaging you where I told you precisely where to look.

Aside from Vecna meaning Narna (as Vecna is not a player in this game), the meaning of this is pretty clear. If you're choosing between two players, I'm the corpse.

[Titus]

Your play changed the moment I said if you have a confirmed town read, the play is to no lynch.

You know that is the right play, so why did that make me cease to be obvious town in your eyes RC? My money is probably on pride. You and I both have that as our sin of choice.

[-Grey-]

Your play changed the moment I said if you have a confirmed town read, the play is to no lynch.

How does that make sense, though?

If he's town, and he's certain he has one other townread pegged, the likely result of a No Lynch is that either he or his townread dies, from his perspective.

His reasoning, I can understand. Yours, I can't.

[Titus]

Your play changed the moment I said if you have a confirmed town read, the play is to no lynch.

How does that make sense, though?

If he's town, and he's certain he has one other townread pegged, the likely result of a No Lynch is that either he or his townread dies, from his perspective.

His reasoning, I can understand. Yours, I can't.

Yes. That play tells you who is the better play to lynch. The urge to lynch here, when you know that you cannot get a lynch off without scum help makes no sense to me.

The desire to lynch when scum have to kill someone and give information is the one that makes no sense to me.

[Titus]

Scum are claiming right now, but I'm not exactly in a rush to push them yet, in the off chance that I'm wrong in their play and their interpretation. There's no point. Scum can always murder the strongest scumread if they don't know who town is going for today.

[Titus]

If RC stays pissed at me, then no matter what happens, we go to night with a no lynch that's a victory to me.

If scum kill RC, then a vote for town in lylo is eliminated.
If scum kill either you or Narna, a scumread is cleared and I know the answer.

There's no reason for me to push a lynch here at all.

[Titus]

Then there's the logical, I'm dead RC has to re-evaluate and I have told RC exactly what to do to find the scum.

[-Grey-]

If RC stays pissed at me, then no matter what happens, we go to night with a no lynch that's a victory to me.

How is it a victory to you if you die and he goes on to mislynch in LyLo if town?

Have you considered that possibility?

You obviously don't trust him to vote correctly, so what makes you think scum would be lynched tomorrow if you were killed tonight?

[Titus]

If RC stays pissed at me, then no matter what happens, we go to night with a no lynch that's a victory to me.

How is it a victory to you if you die and he goes on to mislynch in LyLo if town?

Have you considered that possibility?

You obviously don't trust him to vote correctly, so what makes you think scum would be lynched tomorrow if you were killed tonight?

If RC's second choice, even supposing I'm town and he follows my roadmap still leads him to scum, we never would win lynching today anyway because he superhard townreads scum and no amount of energy I spend would persuade him of the correct answer. It tells townRC that my plan on where to find scum was more accurate and my strategy so far was the correct play to go down, and the last 3 days are just all wasted time.

Why are you not considering the possibility of scum RC not liking his odds in a 3p lylo with me alive in it?

[-Grey-]

Titus, here's the way I see LyLo playing out:

RC/Titus/Grey = Grey lynch (RC shoots Narna and appeals to you to lynch me)

Titus/Grey/Narna = Grey lynch (Narna shoots RC for his hesitation to lynch me)

RC/Titus/Narna = Narna lynch (idk why I'd be shot when I'm the perfect Patsy, but you and RC will most likely form a voting block)

Narna/Grey/RC = Narna lynch (don't see scum!RC shooting you)

In none of those scenarios do I see RC getting lynched.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: Narna

PoE. Titus and RC are both hard town for me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Your play changed the moment I said if you have a confirmed town read, the play is to no lynch.

You know that is the right play, so why did that make me cease to be obvious town in your eyes RC? My money is probably on pride. You and I both have that as our sin of choice.

I don't agree that it's the right play.

I think that regardless of what anyone's alignments are here the best thing for

town

is for you to talk to me about what you're thinking about the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Call it pride, sure, but I want to have my say in the final lynch obviously. I also want you to have your say in the final lynch which means both of us talking about things. That hasn't happened yet.

I will say nothing about how whether this was a reaction test or not at this time.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like you can't cry ego when I am trying to get everyone on the same page and you are (if town) relying on the fact that I am the obvious nightkill to get your way in lylo.

[Titus]

Like you can't cry ego when I am trying to get everyone on the same page and you are (if town) relying on the fact that I am the obvious nightkill to get your way in lylo.

Except you are not the obvious night kill.

Getting everyone on the same page is detrimental. Telling me what I should do if you are the nightkill is helpful. Answering my exact read tells scum who to shoot.

[Titus]

I can also cry whatever I want.