In post 3869, davesaz wrote:Should we just go ahead and (try to) flip McMenno? *The parenthetical (try to) in reference to nothing seems a sure thing in this game.
Yea
You all need to work on your sense of adventure.
I mean unless we're waiting on a claim from thinkbig but I'm not sure I really need one anymore we pretty much gotta remove him one way or another.
What's dumb about all of this is that vecna should really have waited a day until after we lynched menno to do this massclaim stuff and just had me out his results again but ALAS
Its ok, its not like scum can kill me anyway. Immortal witch and all.
Id be very surprised if they figure out the mechanics on how to get rid of me.
In post 3874, Creature wrote:Sorta hope we don't fail to lynch again, being unable to lynch scum is a new level of bastardry.
My rolecop showed no abilities that protect him from a lynch. The reason the lynch didnt go thrrough before is because menno is still in the safe-zone so he cannot hammer himself.
Whatever the chains placed upon me
Whatever the prison, my soul has the key
No money can buy, no power can still
No burden can break the unshakeable strength of my will
In post 3285, Leonshade wrote:I agree with Vecna's PoE, and I'm inclined to take malpa and
maybe
davesaz off the list too, so scum is somewhere in
Alisae
KlingonCelt
RandomMidget
Creature
Do you remember saying any of this Thinkbig? Does that sound like something you would ever say?
Do you remember trying to lynch this guy pretending to be Prince Schneizl? Were you present there? How did you feel when he made such a dastardly escape and avoided our mob?
Do you remember being in love with Aristophanes/Rolo Lamperouge? Do you remember how you felt when he was murdered?
Does me asking you all these questions make you confused? Do you remember these things or did they never happen?
McMenno continues to vote Vecna, the one player who is practically confTown, reasoning that simply because FA did not use the "truth" colour Vecna is scum. It is in principle
possible
that FA is under Geass to reveal Vecna falsely as Town, but highly unlikely. McMenno is the right vote for today.
"one of these days i'll read you correctly" - Transcend, Micro 714
Thinkbig has posted at least a 100 times in other topics while were waiting for him.
Emperor Geass is more and more likely, but why would the emperor have a geass that totally restricts him from answering any of this.
The only other reason I can see why he just lets himself get replaced again is because he hopes this will go away and we hammer town McMenno while there's still 4 scum left so we insta loose.
Whatever the chains placed upon me
Whatever the prison, my soul has the key
No money can buy, no power can still
No burden can break the unshakeable strength of my will
Think Big failed to respond to his prod. I'm going to start searching for a reaplcement for him. He can continue the game if he posts in here before I find someone else.
Alright this little hold-up gave me the required time to completely finish watching the show.
Can I please have Leonshade back now to flavour-theorize? no? damnit.
Anyways.....
CULTED is BISMARCK. Ive known this for quite some time. In the show he is loyal to Marianne and the Emperor to the very very end, right untill Suzaku destroys his ass. He did claim in our PT with that, and he truthfully revealed all his abilities to me. Now the problem is, did he do that because he knew early that I was a rolecop? Or did he just do that because he's a freedom alligned person that got flavour-fitted really weirdly into the setup.
After watching the show, I feel BISMARCK is the odd one out in this setup. ALL other characters have much much larger roles, and even characters with a larger role are left out or used as fake-claims.
Why introduce this character into the setup then? The only reason I can think of is because a: his abilities in the show just fit well here. or b: because V.V. is not actually on the side of Charles and Marianne, and the C+M team needed a boost. Maybe V.V. isnt teamed up with the emperor and Marianne at all. He probably is, but it might not be the case. After all, he murdered marianne. He broke his vow and lied to charles repeatedly. It did seem that he was working on the ragnarok goal with charles untill the end though to rid the world of lies.
Another weird part is that Culted has not shown a Knightmare once. Rather confusing that Bismarck doesnt have a Knightmare if you ask me, but I guess his character needed balancing.
Purely based on flavour/setup spec, I cannot see how Bismarck is not scum together with Charles and Marianne. Fighting against them with freedom makes NO sense.
He also has an ability called <THE KINGS GUARD>. The king ofcourse being Charles.
All in all, it just makes no sense to me whatsoever to include this character as a town power alligned with freedom.
Maybe he's just included because the flavour allows for him to have cool abilities, totally possible.
After all, V.V. isnt noble either, which is pretty strange. But then again, a lot of people arent nobles in this setup that are in the show. This matches I guess with him being the kings guard, if he wants to protect the king, he has to be noble to charles. He's not there to protect V.V.
The only thing that irches me is......if he's sided with DAVESAZ, why didnt he tell him that I have a role-cop investigation on his slot and that he SHOULDNT LIE?.
Schneizel is a pretty evil prick on the show as well in the end. He keeps claiming he does it to realize world peace...but being able to massacre so many people with FLEYA's the way he does, and desiring to use his DAMOCLES to hold the world hostage.....meh.
Too many potential scum in this setup, flavourwise.
Town vigs mightve shot a bunch of town, but seeing how we havent had a single mislynch yet.....Unless theres some weird multiball thing going on, at least some of these slots have had to be cast as freedom. Schneizel still makes more sense to be freedom than Bismarck imo.
Anyways, theres nothing to properly solve this setup as freedom further than this it seems when all potential scum are lurking as is happening in this game, or are getting replaced left and right (preferring to get replaced over answering questions even.....)
Time to just trust on lynching the people caught in lies, and that are doing nothing to solve this thing. If ive been redirected its out of my control.
Waiting for another replacement to catch up on 156 pages...yeah.
Is it better to lynch Davesaz first, or McMenno first.
We could have creature change his target to block GEASS on Culted so he cannot redirect anyone and I investigate the thinkbig slot tonight, and we lynch Davesaz now.
Lynch order:
McMenno ----> If he flips as anything else but V.V. lynch Leon/thinkbig/replacement tomorrow instead of Davesaz and keep your geass blocker on Davesaz
Davesaz -----> If he flips as anything else but the emperor id be thoroughly surprised. Schneizel fakeclaim would be very surprising
Culted
Im just really hoping we dont get endgamed here, but that would mean that Marianne somehow was town as well, or that the original scumteam was 5 people, which I dont see happening.
If Mcmenno doesnt flip as V.V its imperative that MalpasCP attempts to kill Leonshade/Thinkbig/replacement tonight or at least destroy their Knightmare. Please dont do that if McMenno flips as V.V.
If CULTED goes into a knightmare all of a sudden tonight, its fine as well to destroy it. He wont die since im protecting him.
And dont forget the possibility of this being some weird multiball. Very small chance of this, but maybe Leonshade is allied to Schneizel and is one of the knights loyal to him in the endbattle (vampire, japanese/chinese badass).
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