it is necessaryIn post 2906, mastina wrote:Town.In post 2895, TheWayItEnds wrote:Mastin hit me with your pv read when you have a chance
PV is never this infuriatingly frustrating when he's scum.
He's got a clear difference in scumplay and townplay. Night and day, even. Even stronger than the difference in your play. LUV was nulltown, but PV is just town. This is his towngame. The actual tell I have for him isn't frustration (though that is a general trend; PV doesn't frustrate me when he's scum and does when he's town but I think that's just incidental), but I'm pretty damn sure this is his towngame. I'd prefer to only share with the class the reasons why if absolutely necessary. Since there's no wagon on PV, that would not be right now.
While I sincerely doubted AJ the Epic would be scum anyway, I'm pretty sure this is a town vote, not a distance-from-scumbuddy vote.
Not only does Pine's response to the vote cement that AJ is town (that does not look like a scum-scum interaction), but also, this again makes me think that BBMolla is scum, here. The way he talked to BBMollaIn post 8, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Y'all are just jealous of my awesomeness. And you also forget that Gin and I are hydra'ing. Fail less in the future, mmkay?
VOTE: BBMolla
Hey BB. Sup?
Pine
As if there was any doubt Heartless would be town at this time, not only does this sound like a natural vote, it's also a good wagon--Heartless was the fifth voter on Pine. Yes, it was the RVS, but generally I've found that in RVS wagons on scum, scum tend to be near the beginning if present at all. (Most large RVS wagons are made almost entirely of town, especially if on scum.) The reasoning was town, the vote was town, so Heartless is town.
In post 13, KuroiXHF wrote:I just saw this movie this morning. I should have a slight idea what's going on.
These felt incredibly, incredibly, incredibly awkward and out of place. At the time, I thought Kuroi reeked of being scum out of tune with the rest of the game, who didn't know how to act naturally during it. I still stand by that assessment.In post 14, KuroiXHF wrote:I just broke Rule #3 of RVS club.
VOTE: ThinkBig
Your lack of Star Wars quotes is disturbing.
At the time, I thought that Aeronaut being on a counterwagon to Pine wasn't a problem--voting SirCakez in this matter looked town, who was trying to be part of the festivities and not ruin the fun. (Too large of a wagon on Pine, game gets serious immediately rather than later.)
This also pinged me, because it again felt like Kuroi was faking it, forcing it rather than working with the town and having fun. There was no banter. There was no commentary. Kuroi just posted this, in isolation.
Originally, I liked this for Titus being town, because she was naked voting for a third counterwagon. Basically, her entire attitude felt like it was a "zero fucks given" type thing, where she was town who didn't give a damn what the others were doing, she was going to do her own thing.
This vote also really really sucked--why couldn't Molla omgus-vote Pine?
At the time I wrote this off as being standard Titus, not giving it a thought, but looking at it again, it feels forced, awkward, and sketchy--in particular, the defense of Pine.In post 31, Titus wrote:I need flips. I can theorize with wagons but please don't try to "help" with my VCA with your votes. Just vote. Trying to help or get me to VCA on page 1 is creepy as fuck and your push on Pine reeks of desperation.
This also felt forced and fake--while not knowing a player is in the game is certainly possible (especially as town), this tends to express itself in a...well. Not quite sure what the word would be. Different way. Not this way. It can happen, albeit incredibly unlikely. And when it does, it just. Isn't this.
This was also a very weak entrance into the game. I wasn't fond of it at the time. Comparatively to entrances like Molla's, this would be saintly, but while it's not egregious, it's not a good entrance by any means. It felt like it was more likely to come from scum than from town.
In post 3116, Nero Cain wrote:I don't buy that Mastina suspected Kuroi when she replaced in at all.
^I mean. It's right there in my iso.In post 516, mastina wrote:Scum?In post 13, KuroiXHF wrote:I just saw this movie this morning. I should have a slight idea what's going on.
You could read this either way to be honest, but this, too, felt like it was a distancing-with-vote maneuver. Pine was fucking around, and a great way to fuck with VCA is to vote your scumbuddies early and often, then switch off of them when it becomes inconvenient.In post 50, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Pretty much every assertion here seems entirely premature. Aww, Titus, we're not going to be friends this game, are we?In post 49, Titus wrote:I voted you for your desperation posting regarding Pine and your overly friendly nature, which you immediately 180ed on. You still seem to be flailing about, which is odd for page 2 and me barely posting.
VOTE: Titus
#srsvote
The evidence is there. You said I didn't suspect Kuroi. I pointed out a post where I did.
...Yeah. Fifth from the bottom. Out of sixteen players, you were the fifth-most suspicious to me at the time.Nero
Molla
The Thinker
SirCakez
Pine
At the time, I liked this interaction between Titus and Pine, because it didn't look scum-scum, yet now, when looking at it, all I'm seeing is scum banter.In post 52, Titus wrote:Not if you take figuring out things before you as a sign of scumminess.
Sad cause I like being friends and I SR Infinity and he doesn't likely beg for a wagon on his buddy. You can call it "premature" but the posts speak for themselves.
A good question--we know Pine was scum and Infinity was town. So why was that defense so strong?In post 61, Infinity 324 wrote:Pine why do you feel the need to defend me
