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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:54 am

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I know, I agree. Why didn't you invite me earlier?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:47 am

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Welcome TSO, you're going to have fun here
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:48 pm

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In post 1922, T S O wrote:You cannot just claim things that have no factual basis, such as you having more authority on the design of your arguments than I do.
As I am the one who designed my arguments, I know the most about how the arguments were designed. For instance, I am able to recall why I designed the arguments in certain ways. This is information that nobody else can know. Hence, my extensive knowledge about the design of my arguments makes me the world's leading authority on the design of my arguments.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:50 pm

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In post 1923, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Accountant is Kira
No. Kira wanted to execute lazy people, petty criminals and those who were not found guilty of any crime. Kira's actions stemmed from a fundamental mistrust in the government's ability to dole out justice - he is a vigilante. I am the opposite of Kira.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:08 pm

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how does this idea work across border lines ie if one goverment has rules x,y and z but borders a goverment without them how would that effect diplomacy

i get what youre saying but in our current mutlinational world could you see it working
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:29 pm

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In post 1929, TheButtonmen wrote:how does this idea work across border lines ie if one goverment has rules x,y and z but borders a goverment without them how would that effect diplomacy

i get what youre saying but in our current mutlinational world could you see it working
That is why it is important to subsume the entire world under a single government.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:33 am

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In post 1927, Accountant wrote:
In post 1922, T S O wrote:You cannot just claim things that have no factual basis, such as you having more authority on the design of your arguments than I do.
As I am the one who designed my arguments, I know the most about how the arguments were designed.
No, I designed the arguments. Why do you think you designed your own arguments?
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:08 am

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I have memories of designing my own arguments. Furthermore, it is my habit to design my own arguments rather than making others design my arguments for me. These two factors corroborate each other - hence, I have designed my own arguments.
There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.

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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:15 am

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What if someone manipulated your memories?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:25 am

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Oooh, Descartes in the house.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:29 am

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In post 1933, Not_Mafia wrote:What if someone manipulated your memories?
At our current level of technology, it is impossible to do so without there being severe physical consequences and/or noticeable patches in memory
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:34 am

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Unless your memories have been altered to where you don't remember the possibility of such alterations. After all, that would be the first thing they'd make sure you couldn't remember.
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:54 am

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In post 1935, Accountant wrote:
In post 1933, Not_Mafia wrote:What if someone manipulated your memories?
At our current level of technology, it is impossible to do so without there being severe physical consequences and/or noticeable patches in memory
this may no longer really be true interesting science is being done 1 2 and 3 for example
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:35 am

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In post 1934, Shaziro wrote:Oooh, Descartes in the house.
wow, these guys discussing these thoughts have their priorities out of order, they're really putting descartes before the horse
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:42 am

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In post 1936, Shaziro wrote:Unless your memories have been altered to where you don't remember the possibility of such alterations. After all, that would be the first thing they'd make sure you couldn't remember.
But if that's the case I'm screwed anyway, so acting like it might be true can only worsen my situation.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:52 am

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In post 1939, Accountant wrote:
In post 1936, Shaziro wrote:Unless your memories have been altered to where you don't remember the possibility of such alterations. After all, that would be the first thing they'd make sure you couldn't remember.
But if that's the case I'm screwed anyway, so acting like it might be true can only worsen my situation.
Unless such logic was also implanted in your mind, and there is actually a way for you to break free that you only assume does not exist because that is what they want you to assume. Break free.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:08 am

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If such logic was implanted in my mind then whoever did this is careful and devious enough to ensure that a scummer telling me to break free isn't enough to break free.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:09 am

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You assume.
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:10 am

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What if it was one or more of us and we're testing our creation
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:13 am

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Can you, in fact, prove that anything you know is real?
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:16 am

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In post 1944, Shaziro wrote:Can you, in fact, prove that anything you know is real?
No, but luckily I don't care.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:46 am

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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:33 pm

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In post 1945, Accountant wrote:
In post 1944, Shaziro wrote:Can you, in fact, prove that anything you know is real?
No, but luckily I don't care.
Remember accountant literally just wants to impose their fantasyland imagination onto the world
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:43 pm

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In post 1932, Accountant wrote:I have memories of designing my own arguments. Furthermore, it is my habit to design my own arguments rather than making others design my arguments for me. These two factors corroborate each other - hence, I have designed my own arguments.
No, those are memories I gave you to put you under the illusion that they were your own. Hence, I control you.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:48 pm

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In post 1948, T S O wrote:
In post 1932, Accountant wrote:I have memories of designing my own arguments. Furthermore, it is my habit to design my own arguments rather than making others design my arguments for me. These two factors corroborate each other - hence, I have designed my own arguments.
No, those are memories I gave you to put you under the illusion that they were your own. Hence, I control you.
Oh my god, did Accountant create a worthy opponent to gain a challenge or did T S O create Accountant and is simply instructing his creations with his word as his own is law?
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