Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[havingfitz]

If Ramcius really JK'd me he should know Comm couldn't have got a result on me. If he believes Comm...then he is lying. If he is telling the truth...then Comm has to be lying.

Therefore...why aren't you voting Comm Ram?

[Almost50]

@fitz:

See this? I'm kissing yet another ass here. What do you think of that??

P-edit:

@fitz:

VERY good point!

[TTTT]

Deaths

Land of Xanth, Town Watcher, died Night 1.
Ssbm_Kyouko, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 2.

Claims

James claimed 1-shot cop with guilty on Comm
Comm claimed rolecop with check on Fitz
Ram claimed Jailkeeper with Fitz targeted
Fitz claimed VT

If James is town, Comm is confscum.
If Ram is town, Comm is confscum.
If Comm is town, James & Ram are confscum.

Also, scum could have targeted ssbm night 1
which would result in the no-kill N2.
N1 kill on LoX from SK power (see prior games)?


VOTE: Comm

[Almost50]

Also, scum could have targeted ssbm night 1

Why would Scum target ssbm on N1 AND let him get lynched on D2?? That's a wasted shot. Besides, why ssbm in the first place? Again, why him over TWO Cop claims (one of which must be Town)?

Also, where is the SK kill for N2 then?

[Ramcius]

Cool. So you had a SCUM READ on fitz already (doesn't surprise me as I had him as a scum lean myself).

Now tell me, how likely -in your own opinion- for a Role Cop to have also checked him? Also, let assume -for the sake of argument- that fitz is actually Town; so how likely he would be the NK target as well?

Moreover, how can you explain Comm saying fitz has a role that can prove you Jk'd him while fitz claiming to be a mere VT?

Finally, could you please put the three names in question in order from best lynch to worst? The three of course are Comm, fitz & James (you won't be naming yourself, and I have you as the one I won't lynch of the four anyway)

Comm said he checked someone who isn't going lynched and NK'ed, when James asked for his check target on D2, but why Fitz over bunch of others that was under scrutiny i have no idea, why scum attack Fitz is beyond, only thing i can think is they just picked random target

You have ask that from Comm, i have no idea why he did so, only scenario i see was Comm try save buddy

As for lynches, i agree to Fitz, Comm, but James wouldn't be best choice, we get nothing from that, he have no good associations to work with, if he flip red, and if he flip green, he might be not cop at all, we have full 2 weeks, let's wait what others have to say, not everyone came here yet

P-edit: TTTT, if mafia targeted Kyo N1, why they let us ML him? we had 2 empty slots, so it was -2 votes, that means all town was voting Kyo and mafia was just watching their NK getting rope instead pushing us on someone else?

[Vifam]

Thing is nothing Comm has done that has to do with his claim makes sense from a scum perspective

[Ramcius]

If Ramcius really JK'd me he should know Comm couldn't have got a result on me. If he believes Comm...then he is lying. If he is telling the truth...then Comm has to be lying.

Therefore...why aren't you voting Comm Ram?

Why would scum!Comm would save you from lynch? And why he would say you could prove i wasn't jailing you?

[Ramcius]

Thing is nothing Comm has done that has to do with his claim makes sense from a scum perspective

then Fitz is scum, but why scum!Fitz counter town rolecop, when that want clear him?

[Vifam]

I dont know it doesn't make sense to me either

[Almost50]

Assuming Com flips Scum, who would be his teammates?

@Ram:

You do need to respond to fitz Q: If you jailed fitz, how come Comm got a result on him still?

Theories.. theories...

What if fitz is a Mafia PR (say their strongman) and Comm is their bus to clear fitz for the rest of the game? It may have started with Comm trying to clear fitz, but then it backfired and they had to bus the already unneeded Goon who fake claimed earlier to try and mislynch the Cop?

With Comm flipping Scum all claims fitz was his partner would disappear, so he's on a highway to endgame.

[Almost50]

Hmmm.. fitz is either VT = Comm is lying, or is Scum = Comm is lying!!!! I can't see a Mafia player (no even someone playing their very first game) getting a VANILLA result and thinking this can't be Scum.

I'm torn between wanting to lynch the weakest claim of the trio, and going for the one who made no sense as either alignment! GEEZ! There was once a game (I think mentioned either by Mastina or Titus) where there was a COP who was ALSO the SK. Maybe this is the case here, and Comm wanted to keep a Vt alive and push on a PR instead? Then again, if that IS the case; how the hell did he get a result on a jailed player??

[Almost50]

Actually;

VOTE: Comm

Flipping him is probably the only way to understand his weird result/claim. If he flips Town Role Cop though, both James and Ramcius will be in deep shit.

[PeregrineV]

Comm is guilty. There is now no reason to delay lynching him.

VOTE: CommKnight

Note that Comm's offer deliberately precludes him proving that hes actually a rolecop (not that that would prove his alignment). If he just town-confirms someone, that won't show that he knows their role. If he simply states that a role is in the game, there will be no way to disprove it.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Ramcius]

Assuming Com flips Scum, who would be his teammates?

@Ram:

You do need to respond to fitz Q: If you jailed fitz, how come Comm got a result on him still?

Theories.. theories...

What if fitz is a Mafia PR (say their strongman) and Comm is their bus to clear fitz for the rest of the game? It may have started with Comm trying to clear fitz, but then it backfired and they had to bus the already unneeded Goon who fake claimed earlier to try and mislynch the Cop?

With Comm flipping Scum all claims fitz was his partner would disappear, so he's on a highway to endgame.

huh? Is it me stupid and don't know how JK works, or Fitz asking dumb question? Cause to my understanding, Fitz couldn't be killed and was roleblocked, i. e. couldn't use his abilities, but other people could use their abilities on him, except killing ofc

Possible, i really see weird that push on Comm now, when Fitz is better pick

as for teammates, TTTT tryharding to get my attention again, so that would make 3 of them - Comm, Fitz and TTTT, Wifam would make as 4th, i dunno at this point, game is so weird, so i let it to solve for whoever will be alive later

[Vifam]

I feel like there's something were just not completely understanding because what the fuck

[PeregrineV]

also, does people get notified, if they get jailed?

Not generally. They might if they have a role that is supposed to return results, they might get a result that indicated they were blocked.

[Ramcius]

Actually;

VOTE: Comm

Flipping him is probably the only way to understand his weird result/claim. If he flips Town Role Cop though, both James and Ramcius will be in deep shit.

I like this, i really do, why i'm in deep shit? My role have no interaction with Comm results, and it's Fitz, who counter Comm words, i went to read wiki, and i couldn't find anything about JK preventing other people from checking target, just about normal roleblock - target can't use any active abilities

[TTTT]

Why would Scum target ssbm on N1 AND let him get lynched on D2?? That's a wasted shot. Besides, why ssbm in the first place? Again, why him over TWO Cop claims (one of which must be Town)?

Also, where is the SK kill for N2 then?

all valid points
I was just pointing out a possibility nobody had mentioned

[Vifam]

Yeah Comm's rolecop shouldn't have anything to do with Ram's jailblocking, Comm should get a result regardless

[Vifam]

Unless Im mistaking

[PeregrineV]

If Ramcius really JK'd me he should know Comm couldn't have got a result on me. If he believes Comm...then he is lying. If he is telling the truth...then Comm has to be lying.

Therefore...why aren't you voting Comm Ram?

Being jailkept does not prevent an investigative result.

[TTTT]

If James is town, Comm is confscum.
If Ram is town, Comm is confscum.
If Comm is town, James & Ram are confscum.

If this is wrong will someone point it out plz

[Almost50]

Comm is guilty. There is now no reason to delay lynching him.

VOTE: CommKnight

Note that Comm's offer deliberately precludes him proving that hes actually a rolecop (not that that would prove his alignment). If he just town-confirms someone, that won't show that he knows their role. If he simply states that a role is in the game, there will be no way to disprove it.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Refer to the very first post of the day by Comm where he offers to tell us a name w/o a role, or a role w/o a name.

[Vifam]

I really don't think Comm is scum, I could see James fakeclaiming a guilty as scum but Comm doesn't come off as the type of person that will risk fucking around in a game if he's scum

[TTTT]

Being jailkept does not prevent an investigative result.

I did not know this.