Fire Emblem: Heroes of Mafia [Game Over]

[Cabd]

Votecount 1-24

ThinkBig (3): GuyInFreezer, Not Chara, Dunnstral
Not Chara (5): Desperado, Vifam, PeregrineV, Vaxkiller, Fro99er
Dunnstral (1): Boonskies
Vaxkiller (1): Aj The Epic
PeregrineV (3): Papa Zito, Gammagoeey, Brian Skies

With 15 players alive, it will take 8 votes to lynch/no lynch.
Not Voting (2): ThinkBig, Superhans

Deadline for Day One is: (expired on 2017-02-24 18:53:43)

[Vifam]

Yeah there's no reason to lynch TB today tbh

so you see the only-lynchable roleblocker as a town role then

I don't see how it's useful to town tbh

[Vifam]

But we are guaranteed atleast on 5star so /kanyeshrug

[Papa Zito]

Yeah there's no reason to lynch TB today tbh

so you see the only-lynchable roleblocker as a town role then

I don't see how it's useful to town tbh

And yet simultaneously there's no reason to lynch it today.

[Desperado]

you mean other than him being scum or...?

He might be yeah but different battles for different days you know

This doesn't make sense. If you think he's scum there is no reason to leave him alive and plenty of reasons to kill him, mainly that he probably isn't lying about being a 5 star

[PeregrineV]

There's also no counterclaim to his assertion as a 5-star role, which we know town has 1 of. I'm fairly certain there's a possibility of more but the roll percentage of a 5 star is low enough to expect no more than 1. AKA his claim is basically true unless counterclaimed.

Though I probably wouldn't have claimed the "can be killed by strongman" part.....

That makes it more likely town, because town try to be honest when they should have just left that part out.

[Vifam]

I dont really have that much of a read on him and the fact that he claimed to be a 5star when town is o guaranteed one is enough for me leave him be for now


Im not ruling it out but Im more interested in other lynches

[Superhans]

you mean other than him being scum or...?

He might be yeah but different battles for different days you know

This doesn't make sense. If you think he's scum there is no reason to leave him alive and plenty of reasons to kill him, mainly that he probably isn't lying about being a 5 star

Vig idea? Wait for vig to shoot him tonight?

[Vifam]

The only scummy thing to me when it comes to TB is probably his role itself and we don't even have enough info to condemn him based on that, other than that he's been pretty null so

[PeregrineV]

Pretty sure he means lynch him.

[Superhans]

I would lynch AJ before I would lynch Chara.

Why's that? Like, what is the source of your townread on NotChara being stronger than your read on AJ?

My townread on Chara is not strong. I just think that if there's scum between the two, that it's possible that it's only AJ (or that AJ is not her partner). This is because AJ has spent most of his energy pushing suspicion on players voting his slot or chainsawing Chara.

The reason I would vote AJ before Chara is because I can see AJ being scum whiteknighting Chara regardless of her alignment.

why does that same logic not apply to NotChara?

257 came before 415

Because Chara's post is not a strong defense of the Malachite slot, and I don't believe it was ever intended to be. AJ, on the other hand, is clearly hard defending Chara.

Maybe. But Aj's reason for townreading Chara, as dumb as it was, makes sense.

I have not seen the reverse.

I've only seen two mentions of Aj's slot in Chara's posting. The first was here where she said she thought our votes on the Malachite slot was weird. The second time was here where she indicated that she could see AJ as scum whiteknighting her.

AJ, on the other hand, has mentioned a strong townread or defended her on multiple occasions: 415, 427, 562, 584, 596, 601, 639, 641, 647, 849. 645 and 649 were deflections directly related to his townread on Chara. 708 was an attack on a player that voted Chara. 715 was a direct response to a question you posed to him about Chara. This means that 14/18 of his posts mentioned Chara or were related to his read on Chara in some way. None of his other posts indicate an interest in anything unrelated to her.

What about AJ's townread of Chara makes sense to you? Why do (did) you think there's a likely team between the two? And why does the bolded matter considering Chara has never stated a townread on AJ?

I like this very very much.

VOTE: AJ

[Superhans]

I would lynch AJ before I would lynch Chara.

of course you would

you think Brian and Chara could be a scum team? Anything aside from his preference to lynch AJ that would suggest that this is the case?

[Superhans]

ThinkBig tell me what colour your orbs were.

THINKBIG

can you answer this for me please.

if you have forgotten check your inbox.

[Superhans]

ThinkBig tell me what colour your orbs were.

THINKBIG

can you answer this for me please.

if you have forgotten check your inbox.

[Superhans]

@Guy in a Freezer

If you were a 4-shot-insta-kill-all-at-once vigilante, which four players would you want to kill?

[ThinkBig]

ThinkBig tell me what colour your orbs were.

THINKBIG

can you answer this for me please.

if you have forgotten check your inbox.

Unfortunately I deleted the message by accident.

[PeregrineV]

I've only seen two mentions of Aj's slot in Chara's posting. The first was here where she said she thought our votes on the Malachite slot was weird. The second time was here where she indicated that she could see AJ as scum whiteknighting her.

AJ, on the other hand, has mentioned a strong townread or defended her on multiple occasions: 415, 427, 562, 584, 596, 601, 639, 641, 647, 849. 645 and 649 were deflections directly related to his townread on Chara. 708 was an attack on a player that voted Chara. 715 was a direct response to a question you posed to him about Chara. This means that 14/18 of his posts mentioned Chara or were related to his read on Chara in some way. None of his other posts indicate an interest in anything unrelated to her.

What about AJ's townread of Chara makes sense to you? Why do (did) you think there's a likely team between the two? And why does the bolded matter considering Chara has never stated a townread on AJ?

Lots of people who play mafia tend to townread people who "protect" them (see this site, for example). In 257, Chara, calls out the votes on the AJ slot. As one of the top items of interest when she replaced in. I can see AJtown seeing this as defending him, and thus make Chara a town read. I can see AJscum calling his scumbuddy or townChara a townread for doing it.

What is hard for me to see is why townChara makes many of the posts she did (682).

Why do I think they are a likely team? Because of Chara calling out the votes on AJ/Malachite. Why bother, unless she had a read on the slot?
And AJ does townread the slot for that. Which I think AJtown knows better.
And Chara suddenly says AJ could be scum(659), but is still voting ThinkBig (273).

And 841, where somehow their reads are matching up.

[Aj The Epic]

What's it like to roll scum, Hans? You gonna be anything but opportunistic on every single one of your votes?

[Vifam]

Hans is prob town I think this is genuinely how he plays the game

[Vaxkiller]

@super, why do you need to know thinkbigs orb selection so bad?

[Vifam]

He comes off as annoying but super vigilant town to me

[PeregrineV]

words

It's mutual, so that's good.

why

15 "questions" to people, but no follow up on any answers, if they were answered.
6 votes on six different players
Calling posts and pages bad, while defending other posts that are called bad.
More of the same.

aside from the no followup answers since i feel that's pretty self-explanatory

why do you think the other things are more likely to come from scum than town?

It's only your 8th year of mafia, so I should explain this?

Shopping your vote around until you find traction is often done by scum in order to secure a mislynch.

Discouraging town from posting or voting by calling their posts bad will reduce their participation in the game and reduce scumhunting.

But, you can go through his iso and say why the whole thing is more likely to come form town.

[Vifam]

i wouldnt mind it. would prefer it if you started playing the game more. you are in a position to (if you're not fake claiming) act as an innocent child.

I don't see scum saying this either

[PeregrineV]

I'm not gonna cry over a Not Chara corpse.

Are you sure? Your vote for me came after I voted her.

I'm not sure how that's relevant to anything.

It feels like you don't really care about who or why you vote.

[Aj The Epic]

i wouldnt mind it. would prefer it if you started playing the game more. you are in a position to (if you're not fake claiming) act as an innocent child.

I don't see scum saying this either

That's more a personality show than a scum/town thing.

Because what I see with Hans' votes thus far is he's willing to shop for any wagon that might go through and use other people's reasons to do so. His vote on me is based off Brian Skies' reasoning, which is basically 'Aj is hard defending Chara'. This is nearly as obvious as "cabd is stealing away page tops" but Hans' states he enjoys the reason and votes. It's not a fucking hard point to get and if he didn't think of it before then, he's not being this 'hyper vigilant townie'. Post 618, he thanks Desperado for his case on NC and votes there. In between that with no explanation he sheeps Zito onto PV. No prior suspicion. More importantly, after sheeping PZ, PZ states preflip associations are bad. What does he do? Tries to press me to give him some, even when I echo PZ's sentiment. I see this as him trying to draw an issue between me and PZ since I explicitly had to tell him off three times.

This isn't townplay, Vifam. I don't care what he says, his actions are far worse.