Open 675: Pick Your Power X/Y (Game Over!)

[Prince Lyon]

That was 100% genuine schadd ftr. There was no overplaying of my hand or frustration for strategic reasons.

[Titus]

Titus, I would have thought that was super town indicative if it was addressed to me rather than the playerbase at large.
Why are you not trying to change my read on you personally? Why are you not trying to deal with me personally?

@Schadd you're saying that you townread her because I scumread her why? do you think that my reads are generally bad? I've like, pretty much never misread Titus since we started getting along.

Because there is no dealing with you personally. You feel disagreement =scum. I have my theory. I need to work though that theory. You insist on me playing your way, that's never going to happen. I can listen but I cannot be you.

@Giga, You are widely TRed. There's maybe 1-2 who suspect you. Scum won't go after you bc reads are shit.

[Prince Lyon]

There is plenty of room to deal with me personally. I am not even asking you to talk about game related things there's a huge amount I can read you on just by the way that you talk to me. I don't get how you have this defeatist attitude about trying to deal with me when trying to work with you is my #1 priority every single game. It's frustrating.

Why don't we vote something that we both agree could be scum instead?
VOTE: Persivul

[Persivul]

Why do you keep trying to work with someone you scum read?

[schadd_]

Why do you keep trying to work with someone you scum read?

this question is how confirmation bias happens

[Persivul]

Alright it doesn't feel like Alban is happening today and I'm not having another game where I caught Titus scum and didn't lynch her because of personal reasons.
I would rather lynch Alban if we can get a wagon going there but

VOTE: Titus

I really need something from you if you're town here because everything that you've done today points to you being scum and even if you're town you're likely wrong about Spade_Ace.
I want to point out that you disagreed with me about how to correctly gauge your reads but I correctly ignored you in 200 and also correctly pointed out in the open that your Grey read was likely to be correct.
So if you're town here you are wrong here >90% of the time and need to do something else.

Come vote up Alban with me?

Why did you want Titus to vote with you when you just voted her, and believe that "everything that you've done today points to you being scum"?

[schadd_]

VOTE: persivul

[Persivul]

Why do you keep trying to work with someone you scum read?

this question is how confirmation bias happens

How so?

You don't find it odd at all that he strongly scum reads and votes a person, yet in the same post asks that person to vote along with them against a third? It's bizarre behavior.

[Persivul]

VOTE: persivul

If Lyon is scum, this is a chainsaw.

[schadd_]

Why do you keep trying to work with someone you scum read?

this question is how confirmation bias happens

How so?

You don't find it odd at all that he strongly scum reads and votes a person, yet in the same post asks that person to vote along with them against a third? It's bizarre behavior.

titus is a good player, and i don't think anyone can claim to get a dead-on read of her halfway through d1. lyon believes that he's good at reading her, and the way to get a better read on someone you think you know very well is to engage with them. to that effect, maybe read the sentence before the one you bolded in 705

if you refuse to cooperate with somebody that you think is scum, on D1, then that will wither away your desire to actually figure them out and put you on autopilot.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: whemeplay

[Persivul]

if you refuse to cooperate with somebody that you think is scum, on D1, then that will wither away your desire to actually figure them out and put you on autopilot.

This is incredibly bad, but not necessarily scummy.

[schadd_]

please explain. i've seen many TvTs last way longer than they ought to have because both people kept saying "no you're obvscum and all of your reads are bullshit"

[Persivul]

schadd, are you an alt?

[Dunnstral]

Let's lynch memeplay

[Dunnstral]

I know who prince is I think

Persivul is scummy

[schadd_]

schadd, are you an alt?

no

[Persivul]

schadd, are you an alt?

no

OK. You're more likely just talking out of your ass, than chainsawing.

[Prince Lyon]

Do you think that I'm scum for voting you Persivul?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I know who prince is I think

Persivul is scummy

then why vote memeplay...?

not sure how i feel about percivul as a wagon, i was going to suggest dunn as an alternative but his posts this page do read like his townplay

also there were other things i wanted to comment on but im tired and also letting the thread breathe a bit so u might have to wait </3

[schadd_]

schadd, are you an alt?

no

OK. You're more likely just talking out of your ass, than chainsawing.

i mean, you're really just proving my point. you're not making any effort to convince me that the interaction between lyon and titus is fishy, nor that you're town and actually hold the opinions that you're putting forth. apathy is a killer for town; you don't have to look very hard to find that opinion here.

[Persivul]

Do you think that I'm scum for voting you Persivul?

I'm more concerned about you simultaneously claiming to scum-read Titus while also trying to buddy up to her.

[Persivul]

i mean, you're really just proving my point. you're not making any effort to convince me that the interaction between lyon and titus is fishy,

Should I be? Why are you so important?

[schadd_]

i'm an eleventh of the town, and an eighth of a lynch. do you only want to convince important people?

[Dunnstral]

i was going to suggest dunn as an alternative but his posts this page do read like his townplay

Bwuh