Open 677: See Nayne Ples Ples [THE END]

momo · Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:58 pm

@ETL.

I am biased on M and M.

Feel like Hawk is scum.

E and O is town.

Mixed feelings on SH.

Creature · Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:58 pm

Protip: Never discard meta completely.

Creature · Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:59 pm

You don't need to rely your reads on meta, but you need to understand someone's playstyle first otherwise you'll just shot in the dark every game.

Creature · Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:59 pm

Yes, I talk more about game theory because it's easier and more interesting.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:59 pm

I'm a failure.

Anti

- First of all, I need you to really be playing the game. Not just responding to stuff. Your most important responsibility right now is sharing every insight you have because we all know your reads are at least without ulterior motive. Second, you're my anchor, even if you're made of jello. So, tell me what you think right now. Who are your strongest reads, either town or scum?

Hawk - what are your thoughts on the momo/MM counterwagons?

p-edit: Sakura - me too. I'm making a new attempt to read you properly. I know your past meta has gone out the window so I really think you and I could do well comparing notes together because we have very similar playstyles.

p-edit 2: What do you mean biased on MM? Agree on EO. No read on Hawk yet. Give me more about that one - details. What are the mixed feelings regarding?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:00 pm

In post 1129, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Anti

faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiil.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:01 pm

In post 1124, Sakura Hana wrote:oh and meta, but i kinda want to learn to not rely on meta reading anymore.

Meta sucks.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:02 pm

Blah, that's all I got for the pages I missed.

I am fine with a Hawk lynch.

Creature · Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:03 pm

Well, basing your read off experience with them is way better than meta analysis, so pretty fair.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:03 pm

BTW, I was kinda manic yesterday and today I am kinda depressed until I get manic again, so fair warning.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:03 pm

In post 1121, Creature wrote:
In post 1116, Creature wrote:Do you compare players to "textbook townplay/scumplay"?
Take that as an attempt to engage with you.

This was directed at me?

If it was, no. I don't. I'm mostly a gut player, backed with experience. I have trouble reading people I've never played with but find that there are certain principles that do apply across the board in almost all cases. I've written a couple articles on scum hunting that go over those. Site meta changes from time to time, and I've been away for about a year, so no idea if those concepts still apply, but that is essentially the way I'm playing this game, until/unless I discover the need to adjust.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:05 pm

I am not thrilled with ETL, honestly. Looks like they are buddying Anti here.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:06 pm

In post 1136, LicketyQuickety wrote:I am not thrilled with ETL, honestly. Looks like they are buddying Anti here.

He's one of my best friends in the world. Like... actually.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:06 pm

There is plenty of evidence to back this up - check any of my past like 20 games.

Creature · Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:06 pm

Oh well, that sucks. Site meta constantly changes and the only way to not be a scum manipulating toy is to constantly evolve.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:07 pm

In post 1139, Creature wrote:Oh well, that sucks. Site meta constantly changes and the only way to not be a scum manipulating toy is to constantly evolve.

Are you an alt? Because you're speaking to me like I should actually be taking advice from a 16.

Creature · Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:08 pm

No, because I played two newbies from scratch, which wouldn't be allowed if I were an alt.

Creature · Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:08 pm

but hey, being young doesn't mean you're wrong.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:09 pm

Speaking of alts, Creature have i ever played with you?

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:11 pm

I'm not interested in speaking with rude people, especially rude people I believe to be scum.

EO

- if you agree with me on Creature, why are you not voting him?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:11 pm

In post 1139, Creature wrote:Oh well, that sucks. Site meta constantly changes and the only way to not be a
scum manipulating toy
is to constantly evolve.

Savage.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:11 pm

In post 1137, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
In post 1136, LicketyQuickety wrote:I am not thrilled with ETL, honestly. Looks like they are buddying Anti here.
He's one of my best friends in the world. Like... actually.

In post 1138, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:There is plenty of evidence to back this up - check any of my past like 20 games.

I don't meta dive, but I don't think you are lying since easily confirmable through Anti. You get that I have to poke you on that though right?

What is your read on me and what page are you on?

Creature · Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:12 pm

In post 1143, Sakura Hana wrote:Speaking of alts, Creature have i ever played with you?

No, but I heard of you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:13 pm

In post 1147, Creature wrote:
In post 1143, Sakura Hana wrote:Speaking of alts, Creature have i ever played with you?
No, but I heard of you.

Good things or bad things.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:13 pm

I didnt even know people talked about me during my hiatus.