Open 679: Jungle Oligarchy (Game OVER)

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Hey guys

What's shaking?

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VOTE: -Grey-

~T

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Grey is either VT or Scum.

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Grey is either VT or Scum.

~Quick

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Grey is either VT or Scum.

~Quick

Let me expand.

In a PYP game, grey claimed 1-shot cop being VT to cover for Titus. I sniffed it out and was able to deduce that grey was VT there since Scum and/or Cop wouldn't be dumb enough to claim there.

That said, I have only played one other game with grey and they were Scum. They played up the too Scummy to be Scum in that game and although I was on to grey in that game, I never got much support for greys lynch and they ended up winning that one.

Here I think its EITHER VT OR Scum because I find that grey doing this as Scum to be a natural progression to their playstyle.

MOAR pressure on grey please!

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Grey is either VT or Scum.

Are you counterclaiming me?

You ninj'd me.

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Hey guys

What's shaking?

Vote grey, be a hero.

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Town leaning grey (Pg 2 tho so almost certainly wrong).
Claim mason instantly comes from VT to kick off discuss. Too risky for a scum player.

Right Grey? Or not?

There is literally no reason to Town read grey for claiming mason. Its NAI for grey I would wager.

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HI UZI POOZI!!!!

NOTHING'S WRONG WITH HAN'S ENTRANCE!!!! I was just being a tease

Hmm I don't think you're keeping it real.

VOTE: Cake

How about this:
You thought my entrance was terrible, you call me out for it, but then get scared when an alpha player like Lil Uzi disagrees.

If this is the case please be real with me. I don't mind, it's not particularly AI, more personality indicative.

This is actually way more aggressive than I am used to seeing Superhans. Don't know what this means.

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Zat you, LQ?

Yup.

Thoughts?

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Zat you, LQ?

Yup.

Thoughts?

I'm down if you want to go all "enemy of my enemy" on Hans.

Can't agree to that seeing as I'm Town this game.

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Zat you, LQ?

Yup.

Thoughts?

I'm down if you want to go all "enemy of my enemy" on Hans.

Can't agree to that seeing as I'm Town this game.

~Quick

How 'bout some music?

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Zat you, LQ?

Yup.

Thoughts?

I'm down if you want to go all "enemy of my enemy" on Hans.

Can't agree to that seeing as I'm Town this game.

Well if I'm mafia, he's a werewolf and you still want him dead, so...

Reading YOU is a priority for me at this juncture. I feel OK about reading Superhans as the game progresses. You I want to sort out sooner rather that later.

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Hi Riley <3

We both townread Superhans.

LQ thinks Grey is town, but neither of us were fond of his page 1.

Both of us like what Uzi Vert has done this game, but we know he's capable of playing a good game any alignment.

I can vote here.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

~T

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Hopefully LQ and I have as little dissonance as possible because low key that's the worst part about hydrae.

~T

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Lucca why do you fos Hans?

~T

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Getting a good feeling about Spade being Scum

~Quick

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And now it's time for another Tranalogy

The part of the mafia game where Transcend gives a random analogy

Ahem.

Chris Crocker is to Britney Spears as Lil Uzi Vert is to Riley Cake

This has been yet another Tranalogy. Tune in next time!

Until then remember to eat your vegetables, floss your teeth, and vote one of Spade_Ace or momo out!

~T

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Okay so after reading only 6 pages the only thing I can honestly say is that Riley is annoying. Feel like she is trying to draw attention to herself and acting this strange, people will think that she is too confident for scum. Hiding in plain sight so to speak.

My vote will most definitely at some point since it is page 6 but still feeling somewhat confident with what I have now. Also, how isn't Veebs banned. He is a troll who types in random game thread.

Anyway:

VOTE: Riley Cakes

Like this vote a lot on a reread. Don't know if this is smart Town or knowing stuff because Scum, however.

Okay so after reading only 6 pages the only thing I can honestly say is that Riley is annoying. Feel like she is trying to draw attention to herself and acting this strange, people will think that she is too confident for scum. Hiding in plain sight so to speak.

My vote will most definitely at some point since it is page 6 but still feeling somewhat confident with what I have now. Also, how isn't Veebs banned. He is a troll who types in random game thread.

Anyway:

VOTE: Riley Cakes

I don't see Riley as annoying. Riley does have an unconventional posting style, but provides useful content. (Essentially like KainTepes). However, Riley's posting style may be breaking Rule 14 so I would recommend that Riley tries to post without caps lock.

Do NOT like the comparison between Riley and Tepes. Rubs me wrong. Posting format is the same, but overall feel totally different.

Leave Riley alone

No.

Her responses are the best way to read her.

Stop trying to interfere with that.

Like this post. I have similar feeling about Riley ie. reading them based on reactions.

Hey guys

What's shaking?

Vote grey, be a hero.

Town leaning grey (Pg 2 tho so almost certainly wrong).
Claim mason instantly comes from VT to kick off discuss. Too risky for a scum player.

Right Grey? Or not?

There is literally no reason to Town read grey for claiming mason. Its NAI for grey I would wager.

HI UZI POOZI!!!!

NOTHING'S WRONG WITH HAN'S ENTRANCE!!!! I was just being a tease

Hmm I don't think you're keeping it real.

VOTE: Cake

How about this:
You thought my entrance was terrible, you call me out for it, but then get scared when an alpha player like Lil Uzi disagrees.

If this is the case please be real with me. I don't mind, it's not particularly AI, more personality indicative.

This is actually way more aggressive than I am used to seeing Superhans. Don't know what this means.

Quick Transcendence is really serious about wanting Grey dead. That's very suspicious.

Why is that?

Okay so after reading only 6 pages the only thing I can honestly say is that Riley is annoying. Feel like she is trying to draw attention to herself and acting this strange, people will think that she is too confident for scum. Hiding in plain sight so to speak.

My vote will most definitely at some point since it is page 6 but still feeling somewhat confident with what I have now. Also, how isn't Veebs banned. He is a troll who types in random game thread.

Anyway:

VOTE: Riley Cakes

But.... I act like this every gamesies!!!! AND YA KNOW THAT COS YA SAW SPADE ASK AND THEN UZI SAID I DID!!! does that mean I'm mafia every game??? I EVEN TALK LIKE THIS IN REAL LIFE AND I'M NOT A REAL LIFE MAFIA MEMBER JUST A NORMAL GIRL!!!!!

*pukes* don't like the self meta here at all. Little early and seems a bit pre-emptive to be giving self meta when the game like just started.

I just like rubbing it in your face.

Town snark.

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~Quick

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I just like rubbing it in your face.

Town snark.

How did you conclude that?

+1 this... Wasn't Quick Transcendence sure Grey was scum?

Would you think differently if I said Mastin2?

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I just like rubbing it in your face.

Town snark.

How did you conclude that?

+1 this... Wasn't Quick Transcendence sure Grey was scum?

Would you think differently if I said Mastin2?

~Quick

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"well then"

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~T

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VOTE: Momo
Seems to be finding easy lynched to put pressure on.

This can be burned.

~T

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Please welcome chilledtea, replacing Veebs!

Hi ct! Hopefully we win a game together this time! That damn cow...

Please welcome ChaosOmega, who replaces momo!

Hi!

Votecount

1.2

ChaosOmega (4) : Superhans, -Grey-, Riley Cake, Spade_Ace
-Grey- (3) : Lil Uzi Vert, Frederick E Campbell, mattblackguy
Spade_Ace (1) : Quick Transcendence
Lil Uzi Vert (1) : PimHel
Not Voting(4): lucca261, chilledtea, BTD6_maker, ChaosOmega

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Day ends Sat March 18 2200 MST (UTC-7) (expired on 2017-03-18 22:00:00)

okay the Chaos/momo lynch screams to me two obvtown voting a mislynch and then two scummy people (sorry riley) voting on top of that. I don't like it

The grey lynch is meh. Don't feel great about it but wouldn't openly oppose it if it was the deadline lynch.

Spade_Ace's a fantastic vote and I fail to see why this has so much resistance.

PimHel needs to advance, as well as the 4 people not voting.

I WOULDVE WON THE GAME. HOW COME I GOT KICKED? ME OR MOMO DIDNT DO ANYTHING. IM DONE WITH THIS GAME!!!!!

lol

~T

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I think you made the correct judgment, dave

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^ ~T

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wagon sucks

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BTD is prob town.

Based on what exactly?

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VOTE: Omega

NEVER MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!

VOTE: SUPERHANS

CHANGING YA VOTE COS GREY SAID YA WERE SCUMMY FOR SLINKING OFF IS SUPER DUPER MEGA SCUMMY!!!!!! IT MEANS YA DON'T CARE WHO'S SCUM AND JUST WANTA LOOK GOOD!!!!!!

Grey said I deliberately distanced myself from Omega, so I wanted to prove he was wrong.

Grey saying someone is distancing D1... that's a good one.

~Quick

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379399, @quick, on other games I've read from you, especially LQ, you seem more active and connected to the game? any reason as to why you seem so distant this game?

This is accurate, I am usually much more active. I am doing this intentionally so that this hydra has better survivability. I have games where I post a lot as Scum as well, so this should not be AI. It is simply because I am purposefully playing more behind the scenes this game in this Hydra.

~Quick

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I have a Town read on Hans. Open thought process (which has been said before), stream of consciousness as well as his 438 which I see no reason for Hans to disagree there as Scum.

~Quick

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@Spade_Ace,

I rarely even consider roles when I am in a game because I suck at that stuff. I forgot the setup we were on so I WAS actually assuming there were masons in the game at the time. I realize this may hurt my credibility for my reads, but realize that I can still get reads accurate even though I don't have my ducks in a row.

People who need pressure:

lucca
grey
riley

~Quick

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Doing a reread of the thread.

Page 1:

I want to burn the shit out of Grey and Riley. For Grey, 12 was a scummy post. An unnecessary question IMO. Looks like overdone participation. For Riley Cake, I do not think that she needed to say what she said in 22 and 23 was a bad, stretchy, opportunistic vote on Hans.

Page 2:

I like LUV's engagement in 26 with Riley. I didn't find anything wrong with Hans' intro either. Nothing that blew my socks off, just a normal intro.

Riley's 33 isn't something I exactly buy. "Teasing" someone about a bad intro doesn't really add up.

Disagree with, but don't scumread Hans' 35.

36 was a decent post by Grey.

Like 38 quite a bit.

I don't like Riley's 45 which looks like brushing off decent points made against her.

47 reads like Riley Cake is upset that Superhans doesn't townread her. Town shouldn't care about self-perception. They should care about solving the game. Scum are the ones that don't wanna get caught, so they're much more aware of self perception.

Page 3: Liking Grey, and Hans for town. Their exchanges were pretty good.

Page 4:

77 is a bad question IMO. I really don't want you to be mafia this game Riley, but I'm really feeling it.

79 is something I disagree with, but it's a very towny observation so town points for Uzi again.

90 is bad.

Hans throughout this entire page looks fairly towny.

Page 5:

Agree heavily with Uzi Vert that Hans is probably town. I definitely see a thought process from Uzi Vert. However, this is multiball, so scum/wolves can genuinely scumhunt as they have another faction to deal with. But I like his progression independent of his alignment and I'm inclined to call him town. 108 basically explains the exact same thought I had in my mind about those exchanges.

The "beetlejuicing" so to speak from Spade_Ace looks pretty damning. Sometimes, that's just a coincidence though.

Riley's 122 was actually not too bad. Boosting that vote up earns her slight town points.

Page 6:

Spade_Ace seems to not really care that he's getting wagoned. Which is either really good scum acting or genuine town behavior.

Lucca's initial reads in his intro in 128 and 129 feel off and I want those better explained.

131 was weird with Superhans answering a question not aimed towards him. But the rest of his play looks towny. And very hard to fake.

133 is bad. I don't like the backpedaling when interrogated. Still uses "his gut" to paint him as scum. Bad bad bad.

139 is stretchy. Spade's reaction to being voted was fine IMO.

144 was a good post. Interested to see how lucca responds.

Contrary to how I was voting and what LQ said about Spade in 147, I think Spade is probably town here.

READS AT THIS POINT

{Hans}
{Uzi Vert}
{Grey, Spade}
{Fred, momo, Pim}
-GAP-
{lucca, Riley Cake}

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^

~T

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WE NOW RETURN TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BULLSHAT TRANSCEND CATCH-UP

Page 7:

150 is a good vote, but the post in general makes me cringe and I don't like the reasons he voted her. Scum points for momo/CO.

159 is a post that appears too cautious. More scum points for momo/CO.

Not sure why BTD6's first post in the game out of all the exchanges he could comment on is about 150 in 163.

Really like Grey's 173.

Page 8:

Frederick's 178 looks opportunistic and bad.

Getting towny feelings from Riley this page. Hmm.

191 makes no sense whatsoever??? Frederick harped on LQ/myself for "pushing on Grey" then proceeds to vote Grey.

Page 9:

Not sure I like Grey's reaction to matt's vote in 200. But a good chunk of the rest of his posts are town gold.

209 was disgusting.

Not taking any of the momo/Veebs interactions into account.

Page 10:

233 sucks.

240 looks like a natural town vote from Spade.

Page 11:

250 is basically a scum claim.

What little scumhunting Veebs did looks genuine but I'm not gonna put him as a super hard townread yet.

I retract my 263.

Page 12:

Unsure why Spade reacts to a vote on him when he doesn't react to a wagon on him. 281 is the post in question right now.

CO's 293 was alright. I like the engaging he attempted to do there. Momo's a bizarre player and tough to read.

298 kinda stretchy.

Page 13:

Hans actually had a bad page here. But the rest of his game makes me think he's town.

Page 14:

325 looks way too opportunistic.

336 is town gold IMO.

Hard agree with 346.

Page 15:

Skimmed it. Don't really think anyone is on the right direction with Hans at all. He doesn't really look like "caught scum" like the rest of you insist.

Page 16:

No thoughts. Would rather off Lucca or ChaosOmega probably Lucca.

Page 17:

404 was a good post that looks to come fro ma genuine thought process as it matches mine quite a bit. Chilled can be town.

410 is also a good post. The flailing from Hans was scummy, but it could just be terrible response to misled pressure.

412 was a good vote. I didn't like 153 from Spade either.

Really like matt for town.

420 (blaze it) has some reads that I really like and some reads that I really don't. Mostly the former though.

Page 18:

Skimmed. Nothing really changes my reads. Meh.

Page 19:

Grey's case is pretty good, and I might have to reconsider EVERYTHING. Right now I'd still say Hans is probably town, but if I look at the case closer I might change my mind.

Page 20:

Shits of TVT interactions

Page 21:

lol

Page 22:

All caught up!!!

One final reads list, some things might be off kilter, but here goes. Ahem.

{Grey, Hans}

{LUV}

{chilled, matt}

{BTD6, Pim}

{Riley, Spade}

{Chaos, Lucca}

{Frederick}

This needs to engage more, and he had a very bad sequence of posts that did not get pressured at all. I'd like to see that happen.

VOTE: Frederick

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I also feel like I haven't had enough direct engagements this game, so I would like to have some. Ask me anything!

~T

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Actually never mind. Fred's scum but that can be lynched another day.

Hans, come vote Omega again. I think you're on the wrong page with Grey.

VOTE: Omega

~T

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There's probably a 0% chance I'll get Grey out of his tunnel though.

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A VC soon-ish would be appreciated

~T

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Momo was unforgivably terrible, and I don't like Chaos parking his vote on Hans while letting others destroy the crap out of him.

~T

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VOTE: SpadeAce

L2

Jumps off Omega wagon AND VOTES SOMEONE HE ADMITS IS NOT A SCUMREAD.

We lynch momo asap.

When he flips scum,

Pleased that Veebs and Momo have been replaced as they were definitely lynch bait, however, I think Momo's behaviour in particular was very indicative of scum. ChaosOmega is a more experienced player, so I'm sure there will be more towny content, but I'll be wary to town clear the slot anytime soon.

This dies next.

Hans slinking off momo is an obvious distancing vote turned wagon derail.

I want Chaos dead because nothing about the replacement changed the fact that slot is scum.

VOTE: Omega

Jumps back on Omega wagon TO APPEASE A SCUMREAD.

my vote on spade wasn't because i specifically scum read him.

i just didn't like his content.

well i am getting a lot of hate from Grey for jumping off of the Momo wagon, so i'm jumping back again,.

He thinks I'm scum... why does he care about my hate?

cos he thinks im scum.

He thinks I'm Scum, why is he changing his vote back because I scumread him for hopping off the wagon?

Cos I had second thoughts on Spade.

@LUV why are you voting me?

How does he have second thoughts on someone HE WASN'T SCUMREADING IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I don't (townread Grey) but he is trying to get me lynched.

If this was true, why vote WITH me instead of VOTE ME??

And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

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VOTE: SpadeAce

L2

Jumps off Omega wagon AND VOTES SOMEONE HE ADMITS IS NOT A SCUMREAD.

We lynch momo asap.

When he flips scum,

Pleased that Veebs and Momo have been replaced as they were definitely lynch bait, however, I think Momo's behaviour in particular was very indicative of scum. ChaosOmega is a more experienced player, so I'm sure there will be more towny content, but I'll be wary to town clear the slot anytime soon.

This dies next.

Hans slinking off momo is an obvious distancing vote turned wagon derail.

I want Chaos dead because nothing about the replacement changed the fact that slot is scum.

VOTE: Omega

Jumps back on Omega wagon TO APPEASE A SCUMREAD.

my vote on spade wasn't because i specifically scum read him.

i just didn't like his content.

well i am getting a lot of hate from Grey for jumping off of the Momo wagon, so i'm jumping back again,.

He thinks I'm scum... why does he care about my hate?

cos he thinks im scum.

He thinks I'm Scum, why is he changing his vote back because I scumread him for hopping off the wagon?

Cos I had second thoughts on Spade.

@LUV why are you voting me?

How does he have second thoughts on someone HE WASN'T SCUMREADING IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I don't (townread Grey) but he is trying to get me lynched.

If this was true, why vote WITH me instead of VOTE ME??

And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

~Quick

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And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

This is the same scumass that got slaughtered on d1 in Open666, so... yeah.

Also the same dude who got NK Day one in a game with me and Nacho...

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And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

This is the same scumass that got slaughtered on d1 in Open666, so... yeah.

Also the same dude who got NK N1 in a game with me and Nacho...

I've been awake a while

~Quick

BTW, Trans and I have different approaches toward grey, just so you're all aware.

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VOTE: SpadeAce

L2

Jumps off Omega wagon AND VOTES SOMEONE HE ADMITS IS NOT A SCUMREAD.

We lynch momo asap.

When he flips scum,

Pleased that Veebs and Momo have been replaced as they were definitely lynch bait, however, I think Momo's behaviour in particular was very indicative of scum. ChaosOmega is a more experienced player, so I'm sure there will be more towny content, but I'll be wary to town clear the slot anytime soon.

This dies next.

Hans slinking off momo is an obvious distancing vote turned wagon derail.

I want Chaos dead because nothing about the replacement changed the fact that slot is scum.

VOTE: Omega

Jumps back on Omega wagon TO APPEASE A SCUMREAD.

my vote on spade wasn't because i specifically scum read him.

i just didn't like his content.

well i am getting a lot of hate from Grey for jumping off of the Momo wagon, so i'm jumping back again,.

He thinks I'm scum... why does he care about my hate?

cos he thinks im scum.

He thinks I'm Scum, why is he changing his vote back because I scumread him for hopping off the wagon?

Cos I had second thoughts on Spade.

@LUV why are you voting me?

How does he have second thoughts on someone HE WASN'T SCUMREADING IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I don't (townread Grey) but he is trying to get me lynched.

If this was true, why vote WITH me instead of VOTE ME??

And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

~Quick

I can quote myself, too.

And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

This is the same scumass that got slaughtered on d1 in Open666, so... yeah.

See?

Do you have a fucking point to make or what?

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I just quickly read D1 in Open 666 (I didn't read it because I subbed in on day 2 and sorta just meme'd on the game).

What I get from Superhans that game: He was scum that was concerned about being caught and he did not advance in his thought process. All he cared about was perception from other people about him.

What I get from him this game: He doesn't care about what people think about him, and I see a fairly genuine thought process. Valiant efforts to game solve. Etc.

~T

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And you really think Scum is more likely to openly admit that they were voting for a non-scum read?

*takes off glasses*

Really now?

This is the same scumass that got slaughtered on d1 in Open666, so... yeah.

See?

Do you have a fucking point to make or what?

Answering your question, obv.

I don't read games I'm not involved in. Give me something else besides shitty one game meta.

~Quick

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Course, I know he's had other completed scum games and Open 666 was one of his first ones on-site. But that's just some food for the table.

~T

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I think Superhans is responding to pressure horribly, but even I respond terribly to pressure as town and his progression and tone feel genuine throughout this game.

~T

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So that's one flaw. Everyone will have flaws in their game. I acknowledged Hans' flaws and to me they read more newb-ish town than scum.

~T

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Oh boy.

~T

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What I get from him this game: He doesn't care about what people think about him, and I see a fairly genuine thought process. Valiant efforts to game solve. Etc.

Bullshit!

HE CHANGED HIS VOTE BACK ONTO A WAGON HE LEFT BECAUSE OF HOW IT MADE HIM LOOK.

Because you suggested i wasn't sincere with voting Momo. you accused me of trying to derail his wagon.

Feel like i've made this point before but you just choose not to listen or even bother responding or acknowledging it.

Read the tone in this post.. incredibly Townie.

~Quick

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What I get from him this game: He doesn't care about what people think about him, and I see a fairly genuine thought process. Valiant efforts to game solve. Etc.

Bullshit!

HE CHANGED HIS VOTE BACK ONTO A WAGON HE LEFT BECAUSE OF HOW IT MADE HIM LOOK.

Because you suggested i wasn't sincere with voting Momo. you accused me of trying to derail his wagon.

Feel like i've made this point before but you just choose not to listen or even bother responding or acknowledging it.

Read the tone in this post.. incredibly Townie.

~Quick

I don't give a fuck.

He played to his scum meta and even Transcend was forced to admit to it.

Did you really expect a confession on top of it?

Not going to say any more until I talk to trans.

~Quick

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Lemme just remind you. This was ONE instance. He did it SEVERAL times in 666. He was sucking Zyf's dick the entire time while not being superfluous in his progression through the game. He was just appeasing Zyf.

The vote he made to appease was a vote he was already on and had suspicions before.

And no, it's not an automatic scumclaim for one to be cautious of their self perception for a bit. He was, but he's not shittingly paranoid about others' perception like he was in 666.

Do you even understand what I'm saying or are you just gonna continue to egolynch him lol.

~T

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436: @hans, I don't see how you can say that he knew his reason was bogus. is this the only reason?

439: @hans, of course I have a monopoly of information over other players. I'm just saying I'm not tunneling you. I also have good reasons to suspect you. I'll number them:

1. disturbing amounts of flailing.
2. clearly sheeping other players thoughts.
3. trying too hard to appease a scumread.
4. your change from Omega to Spade.
5. lack of voting Grey.
6. lots and lots of LAMIST.

I just don't know if that is a town player who really does not want to die and is throwing everything to make sure he survives, or scum. this is what I'm trying to determine.

440: @hans, I see what you're trying to do, but I'll answer anyway:

that Spade readlist just feels fake to me. I mean, he has only one scumread, and that is on a lurker. gut.

Posted lot of catchups, used them to don't engage on real time with other players, tunneled a player to death and used that to don't throw a lot of other reads.
also, a lot of IIoA, as RC said.

now a question for you: do you see similarities on that game and this one?

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meh. page 19 is not so strong for grey. don't like his four first posts. don't see a Spade/Hans team, too.

miareppy.

459: something about this pings me. I feel like this is scum trying to go with the flow of the game.

fuck. starting to think hans is town. his page 19 is actually good.

I actually think that Tea is scum coasting on the possible TvT. (or OtherFaction vs T, at least)

You provide legit Scum read for hans and then say this... Not seeing chilled tea as Scum here and I'm inclined to thing you Sus for saying something NAI is Scummy when you DO actually know how to provide reasons for reads.

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On second thought I can't tell if lucca's non existent reason for Scum reading tea is meant to fail or reaction test.

~Both Quick

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Doesn't change the fact Hans needs to die today.

Stop your death tunneling, its a stupid way to play.

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Doesn't change the fact Hans needs to die today.

Stop your death tunneling, its a stupid way to play.

Doesn't change the fact Hans needs to die today.

yes it does. If you are the type of player who consistently death tunnels it means you are less likely to have an open mind. People who are not open minded don't have as good of reads.

Unless you have a new argument, I don't want to hear it.

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UNVOTE:

other head doesn't want our vote here.

we both moderately agree on this.

VOTE: lucca

let's see what it brings.

~T

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Sigh.

This day probably ends in a mislynch lol.

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VOTE: hans

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UNVOTE:

actually never mind

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I'd wager maybe $20.00 Hans would flip town this game.

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My other head is really unsure about -Grey- but I think he's town, I'm just having trouble articulating the read to him.

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But this has to be town tunneling from -Grey-. I just think he's wrong.

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Fred, sorry about the depression. I only have a minor case of it, but when it kicks in, it's terrible.

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Hans:

Do you think scum would tunnel you THIS HARD?

You yourself say he has sound points about you.

Are you sure he's making this good of a case on you as scum, or do you think maybe he's just looking for the wrong things as town?

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Uzi Vert:

I understand why you scumread him, but lynchbait exist. Are you discounting the fact that his thought process has been transparent and his tone is genuine as fuck and not manufactured?

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luv: understood.

grey: he was transparent with his thoughts from the get go

anyways the dude's our top townread. both heads tr him the most. i'd be pretty mad if i was wrong.

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I don't even know where to go. I don't think I've seen a TVT feud with as much fuel as this one.

I man there's probably a zero percent chance Grey would get lynched, and I explicitly don't want him lynched either. Like Hans is probably eating rope, but I think he's town.

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ARE YOU SURE THAT HE'S NOT TOWN??????

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Case -Grey- please. Tell me how is push on you and the rest of his progression this game is indicative of scum.

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Hans, that's a recent post you've made on him.

You've been tunneling him all game.

What is your case on him throughout the course of the entire game?

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657 is WIFOM, but both alignments use WIFOM.

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Hans, I think your wagon is terrible. And I'm not too pleased with Uzi giving up, parking his vote there, and not sorting the rest of the game.

But I think the people who jumped on your wagon are infinitely more scummy than -Grey-.

Namely: lucca, Riley, Omega.

There's scum there. That's where you should focus.

PEDIT: -Grey- deathtunnels as town. I've seen it in motion. Read XnadrojX's mini normal and day 1 and how he pushed the shit out of Rainbowdash. He also said IN THIS GAME, if he wants someone dead he will make it his mission to make them dead. When I was scum with him, he did zero zilch nada tunneling, but in your defense the game was deader than a doornail. Town can manipulate too. I've manipulated people as town to get what I want.

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Yes she flipped scum, but my point is that you're not scum for deathtunneling which Superhans thinks.

Superhans let's experiment with this lynch.

VOTE: lucca

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Fine Grey.

I'll talk to LQ soon and see if he wants to vote with you or not.

Mind you he's our top townread.

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This game is insanely aggravating because I don't think any proper pressure will go on any slot besides 2 slots I hard townread.

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Yeah, that vote sucks. But I think he genuinely attempted to sort your slot as opposed to the likes of the other 3 aforementioned people.

I won't lynch Riley or Uzi either. But Riley had a bad start.

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LQ townreads the momo/Omega slot but I don't really know why.

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Grey I understand it's multiball, but why are you comfortable with the wagon construction on your death tunnel?

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Lucca was but then voted chilledtea (?). Omega's on the lynch. Uzi/Riley as well.

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I think in our PT I'ma ask LQ why he townreads Momo/CO so hard, because I just don't see it.

Momo's progression was fake as fuck, and CO's posts are easily fakeable by scum.

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Yo ct what do you think of the Hans vs. Grey feud?

TVT?

SVT?

SVS?

SVW?

You tell me.

~T

AND I WAS DOING SO GOOD

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I so badly want to vote CO, but my other head TR's him.

VOTE: ChaosOmega

I'ma leave this vote here for now but if he doesn't want it he can change it.

PEDIT: Agreed. Help me derail it?

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I think Grey genuinely thinks he's right and although this is multiball, I think he's still town.

And his case is very convincing, I've almost disregarded my townread on Hans to vote there a few times.

But when it all boils down the towny posts from Hans outweigh the scummy posts by a considerable margin.

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And I don't think he's being coached either???

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This game is genuinely pissing me off, but I'm not replacing out lol.

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I'm fine with being lynched if they won't

LAMIST and also not remotely true.

I want Grey to.eat rope too, but I'm not going to completely ignore the other players with a death tunnel. There are.other players I'd be happy to see dead too at the end of the day.

"I'm fine with being lynched"
lying through his teeth.
I'm not. i know Grey is gonna just death tunnel someone else.

i'd die today IF town prommise to policy lynch Grey tomorrow.

Wrong.

One of us dies today and I truly don't give two flying fucks which because I don't want to be in this game with you in it.

One of the worst fucking attitudes you can have toward the game. Grow up.

~Quick

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LQ, hydra PT. Now.

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Hans why do you care about his perception of you if you're hellbent on him being scum?

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That's twice you've done this btw

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yes

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You can keep on making posts like the one above i honestly don't care, just don't scum read me for not responding.

...

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I'm fine with being lynched if they won't

LAMIST and also not remotely true.

I want Grey to.eat rope too, but I'm not going to completely ignore the other players with a death tunnel. There are.other players I'd be happy to see dead too at the end of the day.

"I'm fine with being lynched"
lying through his teeth.
I'm not. i know Grey is gonna just death tunnel someone else.

i'd die today IF town prommise to policy lynch Grey tomorrow.

Wrong.

One of us dies today and I truly don't give two flying fucks which because I don't want to be in this game with you in it.

One of the worst fucking attitudes you can have toward the game. Grow up.

~Quick

Well if you're going to be a dickhead

VOTE: SuperHans

Stop. Christ!

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my point on tea is that I don't like posts such as 712 or 716.

he disappear for 200 posts, and when he comes back, he doies only to deliver either inconclusive or fluff statements. he's not interested on furthering the game. he's only interested at staying under the radar. his whole ISO is an one-note tone, and that is asking people about Omega or asking people to vote Omega.

but that's not on a clear way like grey is doing with hans.

he pops in, throw some shots at omega, and pops off.

also quite honestly I wanted to get off Hans/Grey because it was boring me.

This looks like a BS read to me.

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K, so IF hans is Scum I don't see him teamed with Omega or Lucca.

~Quick

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@MOD
Can we have 24 hours so that Hiraki can catch up?

Pimel made literally 2 posts

We have 6 days left. If they can't catch up by that time, they shouldn't have replaced in to begin with.



I feel like Scum are coasting since the thread totally died.

~Quick

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VOTE: Hans

Inevitable

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yeah that was a mislynch stupid fucks but idc

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mafia please be nice and don't put us on the list. we'll be nice to you guys when we lynch you

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hans was town just watch

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oh okay so he was actually scum or he's just trolling twilight

w/e

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also Grey your tunnelling really hurts towns ability to interrogate other players.

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@Grey want you to know that you catching me was to do with me being retarded, not you being a pro player.

SALTY SCUM HUH

I never claimed to be pro.

I'm still worlds better than you because:

1) that slip was easily explained away after your hammer and you should have said that as your first reaction
2) I would never confess the way you did.
3) You still actually think an argument's accuracy actually means something. Arguments are made to accomplish a purpose. As long as they accomplish that purpose, actual accuracy is irrelevant

Don't be an asshole grey.

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He started it.

Don't act like a child.

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He started it.

Don't act like a child.

Yo mama.

I see you are original too, congrats.