Mini Normal 1890 - Endgame

[Barleycorn]

i think he might be scum but i want to interact with him.

pedit: ah that's fair.

[TwoFace]

Barley. How are your familiar with me?

[Barleycorn]

alt.

[-Grey-]

alt.

I find that difficult to believe, considering you don't know what gladiation is.

[Barleycorn]

my main is fairly new too.

[Cooperative Sheep]

Why did you opt to alt a relatively new account?

[Barleycorn]

don't really want to say because i don't want most people knowing who my main is. it's not for meta reasons.

[Cooperative Sheep]

Unvote: Barley
Vote: Magna

To clarify, I still scumread the Barley slot, but the read is tepid due to what I am personally assessing as newbie play paired with probably some negative feedback/reactions that led to an alt attempt. At this stage, I'd lynch him, but accept that maybe I'm getting false positives, and see little purpose to pressuring the slot further considering the direction our debate already went.

Let's thump the dragon.

[TwoFace]

VOTE: magna

I'm good with a magna wagon.

[Human Sequencer]

Votecount 1.1

Boonskiies

: BlueBloodedToffee

Elena Fisher

:

Keyenpeydee

:

BlueBloodedToffee

: Boonskiies

cchengshi

: Jaack

-Grey-

:

Jaack

: -Grey-

MagnaofIllusion

: Elena Fisher, mattblackguy, TwoFace

mattblackguy

: MagnaofIllusion

Barleycorn

:

Cooperative Sheep

:

TheRealGin-N-Tonic

:

TwoFace

:

MagnaofIllusion is the leading wagon with three votes.
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Mod notes

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Reminding Cooperative Sheep that I don't count bolded votes, please use vote tags.
cchengshi has yet to confirm their role.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Magna

[keyenpeydee]

i said i didn't understand the post. it was either antagonistic or self-conscious, by two different interpretations.

key said it was antagonistic.

i then understood the post, and it didn't feel scummy.

much ado about nothing.

If I hadn't said it's antagonistic, why would you interpret it as self-conscious?

[TwoFace]

Reminding Cooperative Sheep that I don't count bolded votes, please use vote tags.

Damn that's harsh

[keyenpeydee]

Cooperative Sheep reminds me of chilledtea who uses bold tags than vote tags.

[Cooperative Sheep]

It's because I'm old school.

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

[Boonskiies]

L-2

[MagnaofIllusion]

So if Barley isn’t a player who is so reviled on their main for bad play that’s scum. That’s the only conclusion that can be drawn from the series of posts. Especially with 47 and 50.

So Barley … are you willing to share?

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I find validity in your question - basically he took someone saying 'wagoning this guy is an issue because I've seen him derp hammer as town PR when wagoned' and translated that to, somehow, a scumtell to point out. It seems a good thing to point out, just in general, and also a valid reason to not support a wagon. I fail to see any scum intent at all, and even accepting the natural relative strength of an RVS wagon it's not a valid tell to pursue even then.

At this stage, they're one and the same in my opinion - do you disagree?

So Sheep … talk to me about how given you posted the later understanding that early game scum-hunting is mainly finding things to pick at that you think my push on Matt is not exactly that. I’m all ears and await your response.

Because 82 feels like “aha, I can put this mislynch in my back pocket for later” play to me.

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L-2

Look how useful and Town this player is. This way no-one can possibly mis-hammer and thus can be held accountable immediately after my flip.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

PSA - Should Magna go to L-1, Boon will hammer without stating intent.

That is all.

[MagnaofIllusion]

PSA - Should Magna go to L-1, Boon will hammer without stating intent.

That is all.

I should self-vote to see if this is true ... that way I know to avoid Boon in all future games.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's 100% true.

It's like his 'thing'.

[TwoFace]

you totally should

[Barleycorn]

nobody has an issue with my main and i created this alt for emotional reasons. if i am playing poorly this game it's because i probably shouldn't be signing up for games right now - but i'm making do.

2F sitting here trying to progress the game just like what he did on that game. *claps*

i read this originally as if it wasn't sarcastic, then realized it could be sarcastic.

[MagnaofIllusion]

nobody has an issue with my main and i created this alt for emotional reasons. if i am playing poorly this game it's because i probably shouldn't be signing up for games right now - but i'm making do.

Ok then

VOTE: Barley

[Cooperative Sheep]

So Sheep … talk to me about how given you posted the later understanding that early game scum-hunting is mainly finding things to pick at that you think my push on Matt is not exactly that. I’m all ears and await your response.

What I stated was that town finds things to jump on early.
I never said you should find non-scum indicative things to jump on.
I did say what I saw you jump on was not scum indicative.

I'm fine with pushing a small thing hard, I'm fine with nitpicking (though hopefully both ease back later in game), but are you claiming you find what he did, somehow, scummy in any way? Because that's what I asked you to explain, and functionally you dodged that question to try to attack my stance. I've fielded your attack, care to field mine now? Because I want to see you explain the theory scum intent you're applying withyour attack - I'm fine if it's small, but you should be able to justify it, otherwise you're being scummy.

Because 82 feels like “aha, I can put this mislynch in my back pocket for later” play to me.

I can see it being read like that - that said, you kind of seemed to agree with my presented reasoning on the slot also (per your post 91), so I would presume you can understand how a town player can see that info and draw that conclusion - so the only question is if you think I, as town would either full tunnel the idea, or would have issues with it but move on and if I'd do different as scum.

[Barleycorn]

idiotic vote. you think the only valid reason i won't reveal my main is if it's because my main is reviled for bad play? get real. there are tons of other reasons, including the actual one.